JetmanUK Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RevEng said: It's hard to say with certainty, since all we know is your cart isn't dumping right. For Smurfs, we dumped out a few bytes with a laborious process, and we confirmed it differs from the publicly available dump. That's the only reason we're confident we're dealing with a problem variant. Right. The positive thing here is that if it is problem variant it doesn't seem to be a widely owned one, I only recall the one other owner saying they had an issue with this game, and who knows perhaps they just had a duff cart, or perhaps they had the same hardware as me, but this one I have is 100% functional on OG hardware so something is going on here. I’m guessing it won’t, but if it helps to do a visual inspection I am willing to damage the label, open it up and take some photos. Edited May 25 by JetmanUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, JetmanUK said: I’m guessing it won’t, but if it helps to do a visual inspection I am willing to damage the label, open it up and take some photos. If you're cool with it, I actually would be interested! I don't have Ms Pac-Man to compare, but it should be identical to Asteroids, which I do have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, RevEng said: If you're cool with it, I actually would be interested! I don't have Ms Pac-Man to compare, but it should be identical to Asteroids, which I do have. The label isn't great anyway, and if it can help then I am in! Hang on, I will find a screwdriver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiller Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) I am having trouble upgrading to r3. I successfully upgraded to r2. The device manager is not seeing 2600+. other devices >> unknown device does not show. Switch set to color, held down game reset while powering up. I was able to get past the dumper step. Please help! Thank you in advance. NEVERMIND I GOT IT! LEAVING THIS HERE IF OTHERS GET STUCK If you have performed an update before you can skip this step. 2600+ will not show up in device manager as an unknown device. Edited May 25 by swiller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 33 minutes ago, RevEng said: If you're cool with it, I actually would be interested! I don't have Ms Pac-Man to compare, but it should be identical to Asteroids, which I do have. Ok, heres some pics. I've taken a few carts apart, but this one was tight! Really hard to pull apart. The contacts are immaculately clean, there are reflections/shadows in the photo, but yeah it's super shiny and clean, there is no black on them at all. Low light, apologies it's not as sharp as I'd like. The cart is missing it's end label, has a crappy front label, doesn't work on the Plus and I have other carts anyway so I didn't mind doing this, although the chip isn't exposed sadly. Hope it may give a little clue at least. I can take clearer pics tomorrow if needed. I am pretty sure that is REV E and the other numbers seem legible enough. Edited May 25 by JetmanUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 11 minutes ago, swiller said: I am having trouble upgrading to r3. I successfully upgraded to r2. The device manager is not seeing 2600+. other devices >> unknown device does not show. Switch set to color, held down game reset while powering up. I was able to get past the dumper step. Please help! Thank you in advance. Try another USB port USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. If you have another USB To USBC Cable try that also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 18 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: Ok, heres some pics. Thanks. The part number and traces on my Asteroids cart appear the same, and it reads fine on the 2600+, so no clues here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 4 minutes ago, RevEng said: Thanks. The part number and traces on my Asteroids cart appear the same, and it reads fine on the 2600+, so no clues here. OK, no worries. Well, my super rare cart is still for sale, it now has a cool custom hole in the label too, even more unique! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashv Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 9 hours ago, dashv said: Atari 2600+ To all that have contributed time and talents to this. Outstanding job. I am running the r3 debug version and all games are running at 60fps unless otherwise noted. I was running stock firmware. Update process to this version was 15 minutes and that includes the time it took to download all the files. Working for me: 7800 Galaga Robotron:2048 Asteroids Centipede Dig Dug Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr (needed to try several times) Joust (needed to try several times) Kareteka (But I can only move right and I can’t figure out how to attack) Tower Toppler Xevious 2600 Amidar (needed to try several times) Battlezone Bermuda Triangle Berserk BMX Breakout Canyon Bomber (I need to read the instructions. Controls seem quite limited) Casino Centipede Circus Coconuts Combat Crossbow (I need to read the instructions. LOL) Dark Chambers Demon Attack Dessert Falcon Dig Dug Defender Dodger Cars Kaboom Lost Luggage Mega Force Mega Mania Midnight Magic Millipede Missile Command Moon Patrol Mouse Trap Name This Game Night Driver (I think has controller Issues, Or I don’t know how to play) Outlaw Pac-Man Phoenix Panky the Panda Pitfall II (needed to try several times) Solaris (works but I really need to read the instructions, cause I forgot how to play) Yars Revenge Games I need to test more (I could not get to work, but might just need more cleaning) 7800 None 2600 Airlock Atlantis Bugs Carnival Chopper Command Kool-Aid Man Smurfs - Save the Day Most that did not work would not load or only gave a black screen with no debug details after loading. Thats only about half my collection. But my wife wanted the iPad back. LoL. I will try to get to the other half of my collection later this weekend! Great job folks. I think this is an excellent example of what can be done by a helpful and healthy community. I got most of my problem carts from the first batch working after some cleaning: 2600 - working after cleaning Airlock Atlantis Bugs Carnival Chopper Command 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/24/2024 at 7:04 AM, Trebor said: I had that experience the first time I tried Pitfall II. Same cart worked without issue under Atari 2600 4-switch 'Woody' consoles and 7800 consoles. Cleaned the cart. (Q-tip x2 and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol). This time recognized cart - though only saw 8K, and the bankswitching/mapper incorrect. Cleaned the cart again (Q-tip x2 and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol). Works perfectly now. On 5/24/2024 at 4:17 PM, shane857 said: Pitfall 2 does not work EVERY time for me also. I thought at first it might be the dumper...probably the cartridge slot thou. Inserting the cart at a lower angle seems to make it boot(for me)more often. Works every time on my original VCS. To be clear on this item, whether it is Pitfall II or any other cart in which I experienced non-working results at first, for a title that is known to work, after the cart is *truly* thoroughly cleaned, I then receive consistent working results every time. This has been the case with several cartridges, including games from Atari (Basketball and Crystal Castles), third party titles from Activision (Barnstorming, Grand Prix, River Raid), Parker Brothers (Reactor, Star Wars - Jedi Arena), among others. For better or worse, depending on perspective, the original consoles, whether the 2600 or 7800, seem to have a higher 'tolerance' for functioning with 'dirty' cartridges. The 2600+ tends to need a very clean cartridge PCB. For extra finicky carts (evidently dirtier than typical aged PCB contacts), it sometimes requires a few to several additional, up and down scrubbing motions with a Q-tip and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol on the cartridge PCB contacts. Going side-to-side, left and right motion, with the swab is not good enough. It is well worth the effort though, because once the respective PCB contacts are very thoroughly cleansed, that once fickle to work cartridge, is consistently perfect working with the 2600+. I will likely have my test results for both 7800 and 2600 cartridge titles posted within the next day or two. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) I am beginning to wonder if this is another reason for the replacement of the socket in subsequent 2600+ production runs, besides the fact the current one has additional teeth. I've had a lot of success with the https://www.1upcard.com/ tho. It doesn't shed cotton like a q-tip does and it seems to clean them better. It "feels" like once I get em cleaned and start using them often they stay good tho. Edited May 26 by tradyblix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker667xbl Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 15 hours ago, JetmanUK said: OK, no worries. Well, my super rare cart is still for sale, it now has a cool custom hole in the label too, even more unique! I've had to open a couple of carts recently so let me give some advice. Heat the label with a hair dryer and you can remove it and reseat it again with another warm-up. Then you can avoid making holes in the label. Just incase you find yourself needing to get in a cart that has a decent label. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker667xbl Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 This is the first update I've installed...and it's WOUNDERFUL! Every original game I have works now! The only game I have that doesn't work right.. is the recent Yars Returns release. PITFALL 2!!!!!!!😁😁😁🤩🥲 Thank you to everyone who is making this all possible!! Really, thank you! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 8 minutes ago, Striker667xbl said: I've had to open a couple of carts recently so let me give some advice. Heat the label with a hair dryer and you can remove it and reseat it again with another warm-up. Then you can avoid making holes in the label. Just incase you find yourself needing to get in a cart that has a decent label. 😁 Yeah I've done that before, thank you though. I didn't care about this one as it's in poor condition, it's not working on the plus, I have PAL copies and the Harmony cart, I have another NTSC copy too, so all bases are covered. 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 21 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: Yeah I've done that before, thank you though. I didn't care about this one as it's in poor condition, it's not working on the plus, I have PAL copies and the Harmony cart, I have another NTSC copy too, so all bases are covered. 😊 And you can always slap a Replacement label on! Lol! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/25/2024 at 1:02 PM, Thomas Jentzsch said: Regarding the paddles: Has anyone tried RetroArch with real paddles on a PC (assuming RetroArch supports 2600-daptors or so)? Are the paddles working there better? I just tried to get my (original) paddles working on RetroArch (PC) using the 2600-daptor II, but I couldn't figure out how to configure the Port 1 controls to get the paddles' input working correctly. If anyone has some suggestions, I'm happy to hear them On Stella my paddles are working very smoothly. On the 2600+, my paddles also work, but movement is not as smooth as on plain Stella (PC) or a real 2600. Edited May 26 by Dionoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 35 minutes ago, Dionoid said: I just tried to get my (original) paddles working on RetroArch (PC) using the 2600-daptor II, but I couldn't figure out how to configure the Port 1 controls to get the paddles' input working correctly. Welcome to the club. The UI is a nightmare for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4 hours ago, Dionoid said: I just tried to get my (original) paddles working on RetroArch (PC) using the 2600-daptor II, but I couldn't figure out how to configure the Port 1 controls to get the paddles' input working correctly. If anyone has some suggestions, I'm happy to hear them On Stella my paddles are working very smoothly. On the 2600+, my paddles also work, but movement is not as smooth as on plain Stella (PC) or a real 2600. They work great on the Retron 77 also with the 2600 daptor II. I didn’t get it working yet on RetroArch but I only Messed with it for a bit and didn’t get back to it yet. Because I’m playing too much Atari 2600+! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiller Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 22 hours ago, Trebor said: To be clear on this item, whether it is Pitfall II or any other cart in which I experienced non-working results at first, for a title that is known to work, after the cart is *truly* thoroughly cleaned, I then receive consistent working results every time. This has been the case with several cartridges, including games from Atari (Basketball and Crystal Castles), third party titles from Activision (Barnstorming, Grand Prix, River Raid), Parker Brothers (Reactor, Star Wars - Jedi Arena), among others. For better or worse, depending on perspective, the original consoles, whether the 2600 or 7800, seem to have a higher 'tolerance' for functioning with 'dirty' cartridges. The 2600+ tends to need a very clean cartridge PCB. For extra finicky carts (evidently dirtier than typical aged PCB contacts), it sometimes requires a few to several additional, up and down scrubbing motions with a Q-tip and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol on the cartridge PCB contacts. Going side-to-side, left and right motion, with the swab is not good enough. It is well worth the effort though, because once the respective PCB contacts are very thoroughly cleansed, that once fickle to work cartridge, is consistently perfect working with the 2600+. I will likely have my test results for both 7800 and 2600 cartridge titles posted within the next day or two. Thanks for the info. I have tried to clean Pitfall II over and over with alcohol and qtip, soft pik, and no luck yet. Do you find you had to take the cart apart to get it to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Huge kudos for the excellent work done by @RevEng and @batari, awesome integration by @raz0red, wonderful coordination by @Ben from Plaion! Super impressive release, here are my testing results: Atari 2600: Cartridge Publisher Dumper 00.00.00.01 (052024) & 1.1-r3-debug (052024) Notes Fast Eddie 20th Century Fox Good M*A*S*H 20th Century Fox Good Skate Boardin' Absolute Good Barnstorming Activision Good Boxing Activision Good Chopper Command Activision Good Dolphin Activision Good Enduro Activision Good Fishing Derby Activision Good Freeway Activision Good Grand Prix Activision Good Ice Hockey Activision Good Kaboom! Activision Good Keystone Kapers Activision Good Laser Blast Activision Good Megamania Activision Good Pitfall II - Lost Caverns Activision Good Pitfall! Activision Good River Raid Activision Good Robot Tank Activision Good Skiing Activision Good Sky Jinks Activision Good Spider Fighter Activision Good Stampede Activision Good Starmaster Activision Good Tennis Activision Good Racquetball Apollo Good Space Cavern Apollo Good 10 Games In 1 Catridge Atari Good 4 Games In 1 Cartridge Atari Good Adventure Atari Good Air Sea Battle Atari Good Asteroids Atari Good Backgammon Atari Good Basic Math Atari Good Basic Programming Atari Good Basketball Atari Good Berzerk Atari Good Blackjack Atari Good Bowling Atari Good Breakout Atari Good Canyon Bomber Atari Good Casino Atari Good Centipede Atari Good Championship Soccer Atari Good Circus Atari Atari Good Combat Atari Good Concentration, A Game of Atari Good Crystal Castles Atari Good Defender Atari Good Demonds To Diamonds Atari Good Dig Dug Atari Good Double Dunk Atari Good E.T. The Extra Terrestrial Atari Good Football Atari Good Galaxian Atari Good Golf Atari Good Gravitar Atari Good Hangman Atari Good Haunted House Atari Good Home Run Atari Good Human Cannonball Atari Good Indy 500 Atari Good Joust Atari Good Jungle Hunt Atari Good Kangaroo Atari Good Maze Craze Atari Good Midnight Magic Atari Good Millipede Atari Good Missile Command Atari Good Moon Patrol Atari Good Ms. Pac-Man Atari Good Night Driver Atari Good Othello Atari Good Outlaw Atari Good Pac-Man Atari Good Phoenix Atari Good Pole Position Atari Good Raiders of the Lost Ark Atari Good RealSports Baseball Atari Good RealSports Football Atari Good RealSports Vollyball Atari Good Slot Racers Atari Good Solaris Atari Good Space Invaders Atari Good Space War Atari Good Star Raiders Atari Good Lacks Video Touch Pad Support Star Ship Atari Good Street Racer Atari Good Superman Atari Good Surround Atari Good SwordQuest EarthWorld Atari Good SwordQuest Fireworld Atari Good Taz Atari Good Vanguard Atari Good Video Checkers Atari Good Video Chess Atari Good Video Olympics Atari Good Video Pinball Atari Good Warlords Atari Good Yarrs' Revenge Atari Good Color Test (Eckhard Stolberg) AtariAge Good Princess Rescue AtariAge Good Blue Print CBS Electronics Good Wizard of Wor CBS Electronics Good Carnival Coleco Good Donkey Kong Coleco Good Donkey Kong Junior Coleco Good Mouse Trap Coleco Good Venture Coleco Good Frankenstein's Monster Data Age Good Journey Escape Data Age Good California Games Epyx Good Summer Games Epyx Good Winter Games Epyx Good Atlantis Imagic Good Cosmic Ark Imagic Good Demon Attack Imagic Good Dragonfire Imagic Good Fire Fighter Imagic Good Riddle of the Sphinx Imagic Good Star Voyager Imagic Good Trick Shot Imagic Good Adventures of Tron M Network Good Armor Ambush M Network Good Astroblast M Network Good Paddles Only - Works Dark Cavern M Network Good Frogs and Flies M Network Good International Soccer M Network Good Lock'N'Chase M Network Good Masters of the Universe - The Power of He-Man M Network Good Space Attack M Network Good Super Challenge Baseball M Network Good Super Challenge Football M Network Good Tron Deadly Discs M Network Good Amidar Parker Brothers Good Frogger Parker Brothers Good Q*bert Parker Brothers Good Reactor Parker Brothers Good Spider-Man Parker Brothers Good Star Wars - Jedi Arena Parker Brothers Good Star Wars - The Empire Strikes Back Parker Brothers Good Congo Bongo Sega Good Speedway II (Atari Street Racer) Telegames Good Target Fun (Atari Air Sea Battle) Telegames Good Commando Raid U.S. Games Good Sneak'n Peek U.S. Games Vidtec Good Space Jockey U.S. Games Vidtec Good Word Zapper U.S. Games Vidtec Good Atari 7800: Cartridge Dumper 01.01.00.02 & update-021724-1.1x-r1-debug Dumper 01.01.00.09 & update-021724-1.1x-r1-debug Dumper 00.00.00.01 (052024) & 1.1-r3-debug (052024) Notes 2048 Good Good Good 30th Anniversary Multicart #1 No Good No Good No Good Blank Screen after loading cart 30th Anniversary Multicart #2 No Good No Good No Good Menu corruption and cannot start a game Aces of Aces Good Good Good Alien Brigade Good Good Good Armor Attack II Good Good Good Asteroids Good Good Good Asteroids Deluxe Good Good Good Astro Blaster Good Good Good TIA Speech perfect Astro Fighter Good Good Good Attack of the PETSCII Robots No Good No Good No Good Graphics corrupt and no audio b*nQ Good Good Good Baby Pac-Man Good Good Good Ballblazer Good Good Good Barnyard Blaster Good Good Good No lightgun to fully test Basketbrawl Good Good Good Beef Drop VE Good Good Good Plays perfect with POKEY audio present Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest Good Good Good Bob DeCrescenzo Collection No Good No Good No Good "No Game Detected" message Centipede Good Good Good Choplifter! Good Good Good Color Bars Selector Demo Good Good Good Commando (Dual Region set to NTSC hombrew) Good Good Good Commando (Retail) Good Good Good CPS 7800 Diagnostic Cart No Good No Good Good Crack'ed Good Good Good Crazy Brix Good Good Good Joystick only - Does not respond to paddles Crazy Otto Good Good Good Crossbow Good Good Good Danger Zone Good Good Good Dark Chambers Good Good Good Desert Falcon Good Good Good Dig Dug Good Good Good Donkey Kong Good Good Good Donkey Kong Junior Good Good Good Donkey Kong PK Good Good Good Donkey Kong XM Good Good Good Complete with POKEY sound Double Dragon No Good Good Good Dragon's Cache Good Good Good Dragon's Descent Good Good Good Dragon's Havoc Good Good Good Dungeon Stalker Good Good Good F-18 Hornet Good Good Good Fail Safe Good Good Good Fatal Run Good Good Good Fight Night Good Good Good Food Fight Good Good Good Frankie Goes to Hollywood Good Good Good 1024k Demo works perfectly! Frenzy (w/Berzerk) Good Good Good Both perfect including TIA Speech Froggie (No POKEY chip) Good Good Good Both TIA and POKEY sound works perfectly! Galaga Good Good Good Galaxian Good Good Good Hat Trick Good Good Good Ikari Warriors Good Good Good Impossible Mission Good Good Good Jinks Good Good Good Joust Good Good Good Jr. Pac-Man Good Good Good K.C. Munchkin Good Good Good Karateka Good Good Good Keystone Koppers Good Good Good Klax Good Good Good Knight Guy Castle Days Good Good Good Kung-Fu Master Good Good Good Mario Bros Good Good Good Mat Mania Challenge Good Good Good Mean 18 Ultimate Golf Good Good Good Meltdown Good Good Good No lightgun to fully test Meteor Shower Good Good Good Midnight Mutants Good Good Good Missing In Action Good Good No Good Freezes if controller button is pressed or Reset on console is pressed at Title Screen Moon Cresta Good Good Good Motor Psycho Good Good Good Ms. Pac-Man Good Good Good Ms. Pac-Man 320 Good Good Good Ninja Golf Good Good Good One-On-One Basketball Good Good Good Demo engaged start instead of 3 pointer start Pac Pollux Good Good Good Pac-Man 320 Good Good Good Pac-Man Collection Good Good Good Pac-Man Collection - 40th Anniversary Edition Good Good Good Perfect with YM Sound Pete Rose Baseball Good Good Good Planet Smashers Good Good Good Plutos Good Good Good Pole Position II Good Good Good Popeye Good Good Good Possible Mission Good Good Good Rampage No Good Good Good Rampage / Double Dragon Dual Cart No Good No Good No Good Numerous Issues RealSports Baseball Good Good Good Rikki & Vikki No Good No Good No Good "No Game Detected" message Rip Off Good Good Good RobotFindsKitten (v6.502.20050619) Good Good Good Robotron: 2084 Good Good Good Scramble Good Good Good Scrapyard Dog Good Good Good Sentinel Good Good Good Serpentine Good Good Good Sirius Good Good Good Slide Boy In Maze Land Good Good Good Space Duel Good Good Good Space Invaders Good Good Good Summer Games Good Good Good Super Circus AtariAge Good Good Good Joystick only - Does not respond to paddles Super Cobra Good Good Good Super Huey Good Good Good Super Pac-Man Good Good Good Super Skateboardin' Good Good Good T:ME Salvo Good Good Good Tank Command Good Good Good Title Match Pro Wrestling Good Good Good Tomcat Good Good Good Touchdown Football Good Good Good Tower Toppler Good Good Good Perfect with video blend simulated Uniwars Good Good Good Wasp! Good Good Good Water Ski Good Good Good Winter Games Good Good Good Wizard's Dungeon Good Good Good Xenophobe Good Good Good Xevious Good Good Good Here is the 'prettier' spreadsheet version: 2600+ Testing by Trebor_052024 Updates.xlsx All carts worked from the 2600 side, and 7800 was perfect too, except one regression with an extremely odd/corner case prototype game, Missing In Action. It now freezes when hitting reset or pressing the fire button to start a game at the title screen. I recall the prototype does some tricky/odd communication with TIA and/or RIOT that is normally not present for other 7800 games. Nonetheless, picked up the win with CPS Diagnostic working beautifully with this public release. Two additional notes: 1) All cartridges tested were NTSC. 2) If seeing different results from mine, and not an already known issue with a hardware variant, I strongly recommend cleaning those cart edge connectors *very* thoroughly. It does not matter if it is clean enough to work under an O.G. 2600 consoles or 7800 system, it may not be clean enough for the 2600+. Utilizing both sides of several Q-tips saturated in 91% isopropyl alcohol was thankfully not very common; however, it was not extremely rare either. Many of the 2600 carts are ~35-45 years old, and unless they are your originals, well-maintained, (like) new, they may need a good cleaning. Some carts I have acquired throughout the years listed as 'very good', and granted were cleaned up pretty decently, still had some history 'build-up' left on them. Even carts I thought I cleaned pretty well before, the 2600+ helped me appreciate were not as cleaned-up as I presumed. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 @Trebor well done mate! Big shift there 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker667xbl Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 35 minutes ago, swiller said: Thanks for the info. I have tried to clean Pitfall II over and over with alcohol and qtip, soft pik, and no luck yet. Do you find you had to take the cart apart to get it to work? I used electrical contact cleaner to clean my Pitfall 2. I've found it to work better and last a little longer on my carts than using isopropyl only. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 hours ago, MrChickenz said: They work great on the Retron 77 also with the 2600 daptor II. Do you mean that on the Retron 77 you can’t plug in the paddles directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dionoid said: Do you mean that on the Retron 77 you can’t plug in the paddles directly? If you have the factory installed firmware or the first upgraded firmware you can. But I believe it may only be the Hyperkin Ranger controller paddle that works. Any firmware upgrade after that won’t work. The paddles won’t respond correctly from the front DB9 ports. I use the OTG micro usb to usb cable with the 2600 daptor II on my Retron 77. Thats why it amazes me that you are able to use paddles directly with the Atari 2600+. And they work great! Edited May 27 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastic_man Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 11 hours ago, MrChickenz said: They work great on the Retron 77 also with the 2600 daptor II. I didn’t get it working yet on RetroArch but I only Messed with it for a bit and didn’t get back to it yet. Because I’m playing too much Atari 2600+! Lol! Try stella 2014 core, this has paddle support for the 2600 daptor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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