Zonie Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 6 hours ago, jhd said: Well, the Odyssey 2 was produced by Philips (whose last foray into gaming was the CD-i). I doubt that anyone at Philips would even be aware of the O2's existence, so convincing them to sell (or license) the rights would probably be the biggest challenge. That said, I cannot imagine that the asking price would be very substantial. There are plenty of people at Phillips (and NXP, for that matter) that remember the O2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Personally, the Odyssey 2 is a more interesting acquisition target than Coleco, as the O2 library is almost all original IP, at least the US library, not sure about the Philips titles. And I'm not including the few third-party titles, of course. ..Al 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+D Train Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Holy smokes. will wonders never cease. and congrats to @TrogdarRobusto for scooping powerdubs on the announcement. I don't know what you guys are thinking, but it will be very interesting to see what happens! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 13 minutes ago, Albert said: Personally, the Odyssey 2 is a more interesting acquisition target than Coleco, as the O2 library is almost all original IP, at least the US library, not sure about the Philips titles. And I'm not including the few third-party titles, of course. ..Al Does Coleco have their own IPs? I can't think of any but I'm not a Coleco guy. 3 hours ago, Dionoid said: I think you mean BBG Entertainment, who bought the IP rights of “Shark! Shark!” and “Astrosmash” last year, see https://bbg-entertainment.com/about/ , which contains the text: BBG Entertainment announced on May 24th, 2023 the acquisition of the ASTROSMASH® and SHARK! SHARK!® intellectual properties with all rights pertaining thereto, from Intellivision® Entertainment, LLC. Under this new ownership arrangement, Intellivision® Entertainment, LLC will retain any preexisting activations of the original versions of ASTROSMASH® and SHARK! SHARK!® as well as any versions for future platforms from Intellivision®. I’m not a legal guy, but now Atari has acquired Intellivision, I think they also have the right to publish Astrosmash and Shark! Shark! on their platforms, like the Atari VCS 800 and Atari 2600+ Basically IE sold Astrosmash and Shark Shark. This includes the new one and old Intv games. IE made a deal where they could release Astrosmash and Shark Shark, without paying BBG, on Amico/Amico Home. However IE wouldn't have been able to make a sequel to those two games and release it. Since Intellivision is no more, I think Atari would have to license them from BBG. Plus the deal will be in place still with whatever IE rebrand themselves as. On the flip side Atari has the rights to Astroblaster. So unless you are tied to a name, them not having Astrosmash is a nothing burger IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Nice, while many intv games are spoofs of other games, intv does have quite a few of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/23/2024 at 6:03 PM, MrBeefy said: Does Coleco have their own IPs? I can't think of any but I'm not a Coleco guy. Very few, from what I can see. Here's the Wikipedia page with the list of ColecoVision games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ColecoVision_games These are the games I can spot that were published by Coleco and may be entirely original titles: Fortune Builder Illusions Monkey Academy Super Action Baseball Super Action Football Telly Turtle And that's all I can see, and I'm not even 100% sure all the games in the above, short list are entirely original and/or without IP encumbrance. Everything else is either based on an existing game, uses a third-party trademark as part of the name/theme, or is a title published by a third-party. Remarkable to see just how few original games were created for the ColecoVision. ..Al PS: Looks like I was wrong about including Monkey Academy and Fortune Builder above, so the list is even shorter now! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Can Atari technically release an Intellivision flashback like system or something similar to their 2600+ that accepts original carts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zeptari Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 hours ago, mr_me said: IE may have registered or applied to register those trademarks, but if IE don't have products in the market to go along with those trademarks (they don't), they're not valid trademarks. If someone, like Atari SA, were interested in those trademarks, why would they pay to IE good money for something that's not valid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I give my thoughts about it here 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstick Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 10 hours ago, Atariboy said: New overlays are still available? I thought that boat sailed years ago. Happen to have a link handy where a pack can be bought? I was able to purchase the original and extra overlay packs just over 2 years ago from the Blue Sky Rangers eBay store, but after a quick check it seems they only have individual repro overlays available at the moment: https://www.ebay.com/itm/303959885315?itmmeta=01HYM0W1VVV9DEDPNN1228D9AG&hash=item46c56bc603:g:71gAAOSw5PNgd2mW https://www.ebay.com/itm/303959904696?itmmeta=01HYM098KDDPQGS15SQJW2PFQQ&hash=item46c56c11b8:g:t74AAOSwSCxgd3wh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 17 minutes ago, SegaSnatcher said: Can Atari technically release an Intellivision flashback like system or something similar to their 2600+ that accepts original carts? Of course, assuming they have rights to the Intellivision system exec rom. A cartridge based software emulator might have trouble dumping some modern homebrew cartridges without help from the cartridge developer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Albert said: Very few, from what I can see. Here's the Wikipedia page with the list of ColecoVision games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ColecoVision_games These are the games I can spot that were published by Coleco and may be entirely original titles: Fortune Builder Illusions Monkey Academy Super Action Baseball Super Action Football Telly Turtle And that's all I can see, and I'm not even 100% sure all the games in the above, short list are entirely original and/or without IP encumbrance. Everything else is either based on an existing game, uses a third-party trademark as part of the name/theme, or is a title published by a third-party. Remarkable to see just how few original games were created for the ColecoVision. ..Al Monkey Academy is Konami (I believe that there's a MSX version). It was my first Konami game back in the day, actually (and is one of the better educational games that I've ever played, with some decent arcade action mixed in at higher difficulties). And Telly Turtle is Carousel Software Inc. Edited May 24 by Atariboy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zeptari Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 52 minutes ago, Albert said: Fortune Builder Illusions Monkey Academy Super Action Baseball Super Action Football Telly Turtle Illusions is the only one i have here, got it in trade with someone here a few years ago. I really need to try one of the Coleco sports games. 59 minutes ago, Albert said: Remarkable to see just how few original games were created for the ColecoVision So true... but that back box art brought so much joy to me. So many Arcade titles.. Loved my 2600, but man that felt so next gen back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800Knight Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I am curious to see what Atari will do with the Intellivision property. It still feels strange - that's like Nintendo buying out Sega or Pepsi acquiring Coca-Cola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspicious_milk Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The Atari 2600+ should get an adapter to play Intv carts. Atari should release a physical Intv cart of Yars Revenge or Star Raiders. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 40 minutes ago, Atariboy said: Monkey Academy is Konami (I believe that there's a MSX version). It was my first Konami game back in the day, actually (and is one of the better educational games that I've ever played, with some decent arcade action mixed in at higher difficulties). And Telly Turtle is Carousel Software Inc. Well, I guess strike those two titles then! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) So really obtaining Coleco would probably be best to make a 2600+ type device. Unless Atari owns enough games that were also on CV that they could release a game compilatio of. 1 hour ago, SegaSnatcher said: Can Atari technically release an Intellivision flashback like system or something similar to their 2600+ that accepts original carts? Yeah. They own it now. I can't think of a reason they couldn't. Literally the only thing it seems Atari didn't take was Amico. Which was smart of them. I'm actually glad to see Atari get it. This at least will probably guarantee they release some of the old stuff in a mew package. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Atari make a Intv controller or something for PC. Edited May 24 by MrBeefy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avanze Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I wonder how much Atari paid for this. Great idea btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, avanze said: I wonder how much Atari paid for this. Great idea btw. Well IE is pretty desperate for cash and had already sold off two of their main IPs. So hopefully Atari got a good deal. I'm pretty sure IE needs this money to pay some devs to get the source code for games they want to release for Amico Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The Intellivision had some awesome games, but those controller...ugh. I'm just so glad these old games are still being thought of decades after release. it really is very cool. Can't wait to see what comes out of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Living Room Arcade Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) Congrats, Atari, on the acquisition! Very exciting, even after all these years! If Utopia is on the list, then could @MemberAtarian's unofficial homebrew port, Dystopia, come to the AA Store? Screenshots Spoiler Intellivision Utopia Atari 2600 Dystopia Edited May 24 by Living Room Arcade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyOasys Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Intellivision+ when? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 8 hours ago, D Train said: and congrats to @TrogdarRobusto for scooping powerdubs on the announcement. Yeah it's impressive given there were 5 other topics on the subject (3 are still active). 😅 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MASTER260 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 8 hours ago, MrBeefy said: Does Coleco have their own IPs? I can't think of any but I'm not a Coleco guy. Basically IE sold Astrosmash and Shark Shark. This includes the new one and old Intv games. IE made a deal where they could release Astrosmash and Shark Shark, without paying BBG, on Amico/Amico Home. However IE wouldn't have been able to make a sequel to those two games and release it. Since Intellivision is no more, I think Atari would have to license them from BBG. Plus the deal will be in place still with whatever IE rebrand themselves as. On the flip side Atari has the rights to Astroblaster. So unless you are tied to a name, them not having Astrosmash is a nothing burger IMO. Unless Atari buys BBG, (which, if I were Atari that has been going around buying all of these random companies, would choose as my next target after acquiring Intellivision & M Network,) I can see if Atari decided to make some sort of Intellivision collection or mini, they'd end up including the Astroblast Atari 2600 ROM on it since the game is so heavily tied to Intellivision in people's minds & they don't have the rights to the Intellivision Astrosmash ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 «the rights to more than 200 games from its portfolio.» «Atari will use the Intellivision brand and game rights to expand its digital and physical distrubution of classic games and potentially create new ones.» — At least, it seems they got hold of quite a lot of game IPs… more than 200. I know very little about Intellivision and its history, but could be interesting to hear speculations from those familiar with all of this, which titles we speak of here, and which ones would have the greatest significance or potential for high ‘comeback value’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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