_The Doctor__ Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) for those trying to do full articulate restoration ---snip--- they are iridite treated brushed aluminum when coming from factory a clear plastic protective film covered them as well. depending on the factory it would be considered a chromate coating and arguments about whether it's iridite or clear alodine may ensue..... ---snip--- just to give some food for though... https://www.finishing.com/448/95.shtml https://www.pegasusa...nstructions.pdf I just quick search my terms after the earlier post, I have not checked all the info these sites provide, but a skimming says close enough... Edited February 9, 2019 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4216433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, those replacement case badges are way too thick with their plastic backing. I carefully sanded mine down last summer (800XL and 600XL) and used 3M 467 tape to attach them permanently. Here's a before and after photo.. Very nice! How did you sand the badge and how much did you have to sand off? Looks great! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4218733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Very nice! How did you sand the badge and how much did you have to sand off? Looks great! To fit recessed like the original badge, the backing plastic needs to be sanded wafer thin. I did this by laying out some 400 grit on a flat surface and I placed blu tack along the top of the badge to give me something to grip to. I sanded slowly and without much pressure making sure to hold three fingers along the full length of the badge evenly to avoid the badge snagging and subsequently kinking. Luckily the backing plastic is soft and sands down quite quickly. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4220999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowi Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Also the (600XL) case has a 0.5-1.0mm raised plateau where the badge sits; you can carefully chissle that out to lower it a bit. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4225654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari1050 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Anyone here know how to repair cracks and restore pieces missing from an 800 case? I had the worst luck and dropped my 800 while moving it. ? This is an awesome topic btw. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4297645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinez Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) You can still buy a new case for 800, i.e. from B&C Computervisions: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Top-Case-for-Atari-800-New/132856341797 If you really want to fix yours, check out this guy's blog for tips. He is an artist ? http://www.retrohax.net/extreme-refurbishing-episode-2-atari-800-xl-part-two Edited June 25, 2019 by martinez Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4298465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
towmater Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Not sure if this is widely known, spankin' new 1200xl keyboard was $30 on eBay, though "Atari" and "1200xl" were nowhere in the description, Radio Shack catalog #277-1018. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4308769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Does anyone have a good paint colour match for the original 800 case? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4312768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Nobody? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4317269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmzalbar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 3/25/2014 at 9:25 AM, flashjazzcat said: I just fixed the missing lug on the drop-down flap on the aforementioned spray-painted 1084S thus: Drilled a 2mm dia hole about 1.5-2mm into the back of the cover (so it didn't go right through to the front), and then drove in a screw with a slightly wider thread (not self-tapping: the thread has to cut in immediately). It's surprisingly sturdy. Nice work on this 1084S. I have one that's fortunately cosmetically pristine. It needed a power switch (done) and it needs the V-Size trimpot re-ranged (maybe add a resistor in series) to allow me enough adjustment to squeeze an entire PAL viewing area in. At min adjustment there's a bit too much in the overscan region, and there's far too much stretch for any practical purpose at max. But it also needs that lug fixed, and now I know how. I have a 1950 that I repaired (PCB broken nearly in half through the HV section) but is all shades of yellow and is badly banged up to boot. I could be inspired to give it the paint after seeing your result. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4404830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 12/6/2019 at 12:21 AM, rmzalbar said: Nice work on this 1084S. Thanks! It's still going strong, and still looks good. The catch still works as well. On 12/6/2019 at 12:21 AM, rmzalbar said: I could be inspired to give it the paint after seeing your result. Good luck. Be sure to post photos if you do. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4664835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I recently purchased a really nasty 800XL through ebay and it is in dire need of a complete and thorough cleaning and restoration. the metal parts, like the function button covers and the cartridge slot covers will need a good cleaning and polishing. I found Brasso at our local Wal-Mart and it looks like it's good for all types of metal. Has anyone ever used Brasso? Any opinions? Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4674867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 It's great on perspex to remove scratches (as long as they are not too deep) I've used it on the clear cover over the reset, option etc cover and several turntable lids. For the aluminium buttons I have used fine grit sandpaper as they should be textured, not sure if brasso would make them too smooth Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4675252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Anyone who was in the (U.S.) military service probably knows about Brasso. I still have a partial can from apx 50 years ago. It removes tarnish great. From the texture and smell, it likely has some type of rubbing compound in it. Just make sure you test it on a small area that you are trying to clean. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4676453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I decided to chronicle my RetroBriting experiments with UV 'grow lights': 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4740873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 11/14/2020 at 1:56 AM, Larry said: Anyone who was in the (U.S.) military service probably knows about Brasso. I still have a partial can from apx 50 years ago. It removes tarnish great. From the texture and smell, it likely has some type of rubbing compound in it. Just make sure you test it on a small area that you are trying to clean. We always had Brasso in the house back in Belfast, I was tasked as a child to polish the little metal fireplace tools set (the little shovel a brush and a poker). Still use it to this day but more the material soaked in it version. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4740963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damanloox Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 As for desoldering (caps, ICUs etc) - I've seen people damaging pads and traces by pushing desoldering gun into motherboard. Don't do that. Lightly touch the board, wait half a second and wiggle around for another second while sucking the solder. Also - add some fresh solder to each point before desoldering. 99% of components will fall off without any force when using desoldering gun properly. Some components have their legs bent - in which case the technique of pulling the component while heating it has to be used.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-4838018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iscariot Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Does anybody have a source for those little "D" shaped clips that go in the paddle controllers? I bought a bunch of "untested" atari controllers on eBay and several of the knobs on paddles are loose. I looked in one of them and it appears there's something in there that holds the knob on. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5051769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/knob-springs-half-moon-d-shafts I am giving away all my secrets these days... lol well maybe not all... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5055579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 While we are searching for hard to find parts, anyone know where I can get a spring and retainer for the Option button on an 800 power board? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5055750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Atari Parts and Service departments of Best and B&C use the Engineering sheet for CO numbers and descriptions.. that usually helps, alternative sources were listed the forums but I can’t recall where or how it was worded… lastly if the deep dive doesn’t do it, there are the two bastions of Atari goodness that one might approach… the garages and barns full of Atari bits and pieces . Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5055929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: Atari Parts and Service departments of Best and B&C use the Engineering sheet for CO numbers and descriptions.. that usually helps, alternative sources were listed the forums but I can’t recall where or how it was worded… lastly if the deep dive doesn’t do it, there are the two bastions of Atari goodness that one might approach… the garages and barns full of Atari bits and pieces . Odd - I found pictures of my other 800 which I installed an Incognito on many years ago. The power board does not have any of these springs on it. On the machine that does, 3 of the 4 are there. The key without it is very easy to press accidentally - it needs the spring. Wonder why. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5056080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrohepcat Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 What glue do folks use to glue disk labels that have fallen off vintage 5.25" floppies? Is the same glue used for cartridge labels that have fallen off? Is Superglue Gel ok? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5076888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) @nitrohepcat, super glue get brittle and flakes, I don't use it. in a pinch I'll use elmers photo glue and adhesive... but you might want to read this... https://consolidatedlabel.com/label-articles/label-adhesives-guide-part-1/ since we are in the restoration thread. Edited June 21, 2022 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5076902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, nitrohepcat said: What glue do folks use to glue disk labels that have fallen off vintage 5.25" floppies? Is the same glue used for cartridge labels that have fallen off? Is Superglue Gel ok? Been 20 years since I did this, but I would use rubber cement. It doesn't cause paper to crinkle and remains flexible. Use it as a contact adhesive - put a SMALL amount on the label, but also on the diskette. Allow both surfaces to skim over and become tacky and then gently press the label back on. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/104583-tipstricksproducts-used-in-restoration/page/8/#findComment-5076906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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