chrisbid Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 so if you see a copy of this game sitting in a thift store for 10 dollars would you a) buy it / keep it b) leave it c) buy it / sell it rather than fight what everyone else does, just leave people be. the only reason to get upset by this is if you actually do want these games but not pay the high prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 much worse than the waiste of money is the waiste of time .... but that's just us atarimaniacs .... welcome to atariage and the world of 2600 items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 so if you see a copy of this game sitting in a thift store for 10 dollars would you a) buy it / keep it b) leave it c) buy it / sell it rather than fight what everyone else does, just leave people be. the only reason to get upset by this is if you actually do want these games but not pay the high prices I'd grab up anything R6 and up for $10. If I already had it, I would resell it. If not, I'd keep it regardless of whether it was on my list or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlepaddle Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I sure wouldn't pay $300 for a crappy game, but I definitely would buy a crappy game if I didn't have it and it was only $2. I am a true collector-at-heart. I just find some satisfaction in piecing together a collection from various sources over time. It's not based on money value, just pure nerdy "somethings missing here"; a way to make a challenge out of nothing, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 without adding anything to the discussion, there's a gold NWC on ebay right now with a $25000 BIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 without adding anything to the discussion, there's a gold NWC on ebay right now with a $25000 BIN. FREE SHIPPING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball22 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I guess some it has to do with bragging rights. Since not everyone can have a certain game it becomes special in a way. You have something that not many of your fellow collectors have. With that being said I do think this hobby focuses too much on rarity. History and influence of the game seem to mean nothing. In way that's too bad. Yeah, what was that rare game you own again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHATETHEBEARS Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 so if you see a copy of this game sitting in a thift store for 10 dollars would you a) buy it / keep it b) leave it c) buy it / sell it rather than fight what everyone else does, just leave people be. the only reason to get upset by this is if you actually do want these games but not pay the high prices If I saw it in a thrift store, I'd buy it and keep it if I want to play it. If it wasn't something I really wanted or had a duplicate, then I would sell it. Yes, that is part of the fun...finding something like an R8 on the cheap. But I would never pay the real price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. You should be able to find the BOMB games around the same price, even less than the other 4 you are looking for (out of control, x-man, etc..) they just don't turn up very often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHATETHEBEARS Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. You should be able to find the BOMB games around the same price, even less than the other 4 you are looking for (out of control, x-man, etc..) they just don't turn up very often In the six+ months of looking, I've only seen two of the four Bomb carts (NTSC) on Ebay. And they were both sold in the same lot with something like 200 other games. And the seller said that neither were working. And that's my big concern. Each game would probably cost over $200.00. And they have a tendency to break at any time. And that's an awful lot of money to spend on something that has a high failure rate. So I think I'll stick with my Bomb repros. Now if they weren't made so crappy, yes, I'd shell out the money for the originals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 There is definitely something about the 2600 for me. I love collecting for it. I love how there are still new discoveries after all these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgames Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I get having a collection of games that you love, while your mp3 player shuffles appropriate 80's tunes as you play. That makes sense. That's how I like to re-visit this era, favorite 80's tunes with favorite games. That' fun. Paying $300 for a completely crappy game? That makes no sense to me, so somebody please spell it out to me:) I think that's one of the great things about this hobby (the collecting part). Each person can set their own 'target collection'. For some, this may be all games possible, for others it may be all the games they had back in the day, some may enjoy collecting a particular company..... Almost an endless set of possibilities. Whatever the individual enjoys hunting for. Each collector is unique, so it makes perfect sense that the goals and priorities would cover a vast range also. I think the part I enjoy the most is finding old, neglected games and sytems. A little cleaning and TLC and something that was one spring cleaning away from the dumpster is transformed into something that can be once again provide some real fun; collecting, playing, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I think that's one of the great things about this hobby (the collecting part). Each person can set their own 'target collection'. For some, this may be all games possible, for others it may be all the games they had back in the day, some may enjoy collecting a particular company..... Almost an endless set of possibilities. Whatever the individual enjoys hunting for. absolutely ... realiing that getting all games boxed would cost me a fortune, i went to keeping one box of each company (well, plus the variations) and now i'm rather focusing on boxed 2600 consoles and catalogs ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. You should be able to find the BOMB games around the same price, even less than the other 4 you are looking for (out of control, x-man, etc..) they just don't turn up very often In the six+ months of looking, I've only seen two of the four Bomb carts (NTSC) on Ebay. And they were both sold in the same lot with something like 200 other games. And the seller said that neither were working. And that's my big concern. Each game would probably cost over $200.00. And they have a tendency to break at any time. And that's an awful lot of money to spend on something that has a high failure rate. So I think I'll stick with my Bomb repros. Now if they weren't made so crappy, yes, I'd shell out the money for the originals. I agree. I owned all 4 then I popped in Assualt one day and it was broken. After that I sold them all, too much risk involved with keeping them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. You should be able to find the BOMB games around the same price, even less than the other 4 you are looking for (out of control, x-man, etc..) they just don't turn up very often In the six+ months of looking, I've only seen two of the four Bomb carts (NTSC) on Ebay. And they were both sold in the same lot with something like 200 other games. And the seller said that neither were working. And that's my big concern. Each game would probably cost over $200.00. And they have a tendency to break at any time. And that's an awful lot of money to spend on something that has a high failure rate. So I think I'll stick with my Bomb repros. Now if they weren't made so crappy, yes, I'd shell out the money for the originals. I agree. I owned all 4 then I popped in Assualt one day and it was broken. After that I sold them all, too much risk involved with keeping them. i'd recommend getting the pal versions ... they're dead cheap compared to the prices of the ntsc version ... and you can still play the repros on the side ... or with a bit of work, you might be able to put the repro's pcb inside the original bomb carts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwackery Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I think that's one of the great things about this hobby (the collecting part). Each person can set their own 'target collection'. For some, this may be all games possible, for others it may be all the games they had back in the day, some may enjoy collecting a particular company..... Almost an endless set of possibilities. Whatever the individual enjoys hunting for. I agree, this is a great way to describe the various approaches that collectors have. At a certain point, I decided for myself what the limits or parameters of my target collection would be, and so I feel like I have something reasonable but still challenging to attain. I might not ever truly realize that goal, but it makes me a little more grounded in my collecting efforts even if I would eventually get around to spending some big money on rare carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 5 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Since I refuse to pay over $150 for any cart I knew collecting would be a challenge for me. After a decade of collecting, I am still hopeful I will find that loose Music Machine at a tag sale. Or a Coke Wins at a church rummage sale. Unrealistic? Not really... When I first started collecting, I would have never imagined I would have Tooth Protectors, CTCW, Glib, Waterworld, Crazy Climber, Quadrun or a complete in box Smurfs Save the Day considering my $150.00 limit. After 10+ years I now have all those games and many more and have never broke my $150.00 rule. Patience, hope, trades and a whole ton of fun over the years has paid off. I wouldn't pay a thousand for a game, but I can totally understand someone who would. Collecting is a lot of fun, educational and requires a lot of patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntavio Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. We are all collectors here. But we're all different. Some collect games they like, others want a copy of every game ever made, some want boxes and manuals... We're all different. For those collectors who are completists and want it all, it's easy to rationalize paying big bucks for games, assuming they have the means. It's their hobby. And it's what they want. For me, I'm a completist. But to me, that just means being able to play the game in my 2600 system. I don't care if it's an original or a repro. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a complete collection. I could care less about boxes and manuals. I may be a collector, but for me, the most important aspect of the hobby is actually sitting down and playing the games. I think there are more than 418 official releases for the 2600. By my unofficial count I have at least 480 unique CIB's (not including repros of unreleased games) and by no means consider myself anywhere finished collecting. That's the beauty of collecting for the 2600, there really is no end to it. It's not boring as with other Atari systems. With the 5200 and 7800, I knew when the collections were complete so I sold them. Edited May 14, 2009 by ntavio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. Out of curiosity, what are the other 15 that you only have as repros? My 16 repros are 1. AIR RAID 2. ASSUALT 3. ATLANTIS II 4. ELI’S LADDER 5. GAUNTLET 6. GREAT ESCAPE 7. MAGICARD 8. MANGIA 9. MUSIC MACHINE 10. OUT OF CONTROL 11. PEPSI INVADERS 12. UNIVERSAL CHAOS 13. VIDEO LIFE 14. WALL DEFENDER 15. X MAN 16. Z-TACK I'll still seek out an original Music Machine, Out Of Control, Universal Chaos and X-Man. But beyond these four, the rest are out of my reach. You should be able to find the BOMB games around the same price, even less than the other 4 you are looking for (out of control, x-man, etc..) they just don't turn up very often In the six+ months of looking, I've only seen two of the four Bomb carts (NTSC) on Ebay. And they were both sold in the same lot with something like 200 other games. And the seller said that neither were working. And that's my big concern. Each game would probably cost over $200.00. And they have a tendency to break at any time. And that's an awful lot of money to spend on something that has a high failure rate. So I think I'll stick with my Bomb repros. Now if they weren't made so crappy, yes, I'd shell out the money for the originals. I agree. I owned all 4 then I popped in Assualt one day and it was broken. After that I sold them all, too much risk involved with keeping them. i'd recommend getting the pal versions ... they're dead cheap compared to the prices of the ntsc version ... and you can still play the repros on the side ... or with a bit of work, you might be able to put the repro's pcb inside the original bomb carts ... I got PAL versions first actually They play just fine on my commodore monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think there are more than 418 official releases for the 2600. By my unofficial count I have at least 480 unique CIB's (not including repros of unreleased games) and by no means consider myself anywhere finished collecting. That's the beauty of collecting for the 2600, there really is no end to it. It's not boring as with other Atari systems. With the 5200 and 7800, I knew when the collections were complete so I sold them. Please add to his list then so we can discuss your additional games. His list is here... http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?a...;showentry=5704 Curious as to what additional games you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHATETHEBEARS Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. We are all collectors here. But we're all different. Some collect games they like, others want a copy of every game ever made, some want boxes and manuals... We're all different. For those collectors who are completists and want it all, it's easy to rationalize paying big bucks for games, assuming they have the means. It's their hobby. And it's what they want. For me, I'm a completist. But to me, that just means being able to play the game in my 2600 system. I don't care if it's an original or a repro. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a complete collection. I could care less about boxes and manuals. I may be a collector, but for me, the most important aspect of the hobby is actually sitting down and playing the games. I think there are more than 418 official releases for the 2600. By my unofficial count I have at least 480 unique CIB's (not including repros of unreleased games) and by no means consider myself anywhere finished collecting. That's the beauty of collecting for the 2600, there really is no end to it. It's not boring as with other Atari systems. With the 5200 and 7800, I knew when the collections were complete so I sold them. 418 by my parameters - NTSC, released "back in the day" between 1977-1992, no prototypes, and only unique individual games. So there are no Sears titles for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerwannabee Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 By my count there's 418 "original" released games. I own 402 of them. The other 16 I have as repros - including Out Of Control, which I agree is crappy. We are all collectors here. But we're all different. Some collect games they like, others want a copy of every game ever made, some want boxes and manuals... We're all different. For those collectors who are completists and want it all, it's easy to rationalize paying big bucks for games, assuming they have the means. It's their hobby. And it's what they want. For me, I'm a completist. But to me, that just means being able to play the game in my 2600 system. I don't care if it's an original or a repro. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a complete collection. I could care less about boxes and manuals. I may be a collector, but for me, the most important aspect of the hobby is actually sitting down and playing the games. I think there are more than 418 official releases for the 2600. By my unofficial count I have at least 480 unique CIB's (not including repros of unreleased games) and by no means consider myself anywhere finished collecting. That's the beauty of collecting for the 2600, there really is no end to it. It's not boring as with other Atari systems. With the 5200 and 7800, I knew when the collections were complete so I sold them. 418 by my parameters - NTSC, released "back in the day" between 1977-1992, no prototypes, and only unique individual games. So there are no Sears titles for example. You do realize that Sears made three unique titles? Steeplechase, Steller Track, and Submarine Commander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 You do realize that Sears made three unique titles? Steeplechase, Steller Track, and Submarine Commander? Yes, he does. Those games are on his list... see link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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