Roydea6 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Larry, Are you absolutely sure that the ramdisk is not seeing the memory from the Freezer. Also where did you get that version on MyDOS?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Roy- Absolutely sure -- the Freezer is not attached, just the extender/adapter. As a test, I copied over 1000 sectors to the D8: ramdisk, then loaded one of the last files. Loaded fine. Also, running through the MyDos config process, it "sees" 64K with the ram module off and 256K with the ram module attached. Without more testing, I can't be sure that it is working properly, but it sure appears to be. The "strange" MyDos is the 4.55 B4 version that FJC patched so that TBXL and some other stuff like MAE will load with a 65816 CPU. I just changed the text so I could keep track of the which version of 4.55 I was using. -Larry Edit: After more testing, yes, it does appear to work properly. The tester forgot to boot without BASIC, so some of the files appeared not to load properly making the ramdisk appear corrupted. Perhaps Ctirad can tell us if he thinks it could work as it seems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah, I see no reason why it should not. If there are all needed PBI signals on the adapter it is fine. I have reports from some 1200XL users who sucesfully use the RAM 320XL cards with PBI adapters. The XE PBI adapter has to contain a MMU, because there is no CASINH singnal on the CART/ECI. The opposite way interface would be much more easy, most probably passive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 So obviously this device is fantastic!!! Thanks. But I can't see ECI pass through slot on last fotos. There is no such a foto. As i wrote earlier, the ECI pass through is optional and it would also require some additional work on the case. BTW, why the SIDE/IDE+/BBOX/whatever have not pass through and it's on me to fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Charge extra money for the pass through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Larry, thank you for exhaustive info about using CART-only slot. ctirad, glad to see you again here and glad to see your interest in making PASS THROUGH future devices. What's about some kind of up-to-down reversed T-shaped adapter intended for using with Ide+2 (or some another device) inserted vertically and still leaving free horizontal pass through slot for future use. They may be stacked (in theory). Edited February 13, 2014 by 130XE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 What's about some kind of up-to-down reversed T-shaped adapter intended for using with Ide+2 (or some another device) inserted vertically and still leaving free horizontal pass through slot for future use. They may be stacked (in theory). If there will be demand for that, why not. Such port extenders are common on many other platforms, anyway, so why not to make one for Atari as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I am still interested in the 320xe and xl and these port extenders. count me in!!! Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The main thing is to save XE or XL virginity INTACT!!! What's about especially intended SIO pass through extenders? Anyway I'd like to obtain one or more ECI/CART RAM 320XE because both of my 130XE lost thair extended RAM (when main 64k is intact) and there is a chance that RAM 320XE can fix situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 The main thing is to save XE or XL virginity INTACT!!! Exactly. That is the reason why I started to work on plug&play expansions. What's about especially intended SIO pass through extenders? The PCB would be simple, but where to get SIO connectors? Anyway I'd like to obtain one or more ECI/CART RAM 320XE because both of my 130XE lost thair extended RAM (when main 64k is intact) and there is a chance that RAM 320XE can fix situation. Most probably, yes. If the bad RAM chips do not block the BUS, they can be easily replaced any overrriden by the external RAM card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 ctirad Is COVOX story ended? May be COVOX must be another external pass through device Pass through era approaching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 No, the COVOX option is still there. It's just not possible to add it to the already finished preproduction cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Well, if the developer will ever finish it, one can have Covox on a cartridge or as internal pcb: http://www.abbuc.de/atari/hardware-ressort/80-hardware/hardwarewettbewerbe/1610-hardwarewettbewerb-2012b -Andreas Koch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hello guys I'll wait for the production version of the RAM320XE with Covox and HARdwarDoc's version of Covox (Thunderblaster). And HARdwareDoc's version of the multijoy interface (UltraJoyPro). Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thank you Andreas. Never heard about Thunder Blaster before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 The COVOX cart is indeed possible and pretty simple. The only drawback is the listening address which differs from the most used one, thus some demos and MOD players cannot use the cart COVOX without patching their code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hello Ctirad ThunderBlaster will also be available as an internal upgrade. The internal upgrade can use $D280. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The COVOX cart is indeed possible and pretty simple. The only drawback is the listening address which differs from the most used one, thus some demos and MOD players cannot use the cart COVOX without patching their code. We'll need these patches anyhow, as my Covox is installed at $D280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hello, Does anyone know are the greatest devices such as IDE+2 and Karin Maxi are compartible with each other? It should be great to use Karin Maxi as controller for ST floppy (if possible of course) and IDE+2 as fastest Hard Drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 I asked my friedns who are into hardware development what they are thinking about the gold plated stuff and I got a lot of answers from the "it's a must" to the "it's a stupid idea". And the both of the extreme wings were very sure that they are right and also why the are right. So what about to make both versions and charge the extra money for the gold plated one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hello Ctirad I'ld chose gold. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ripdubski Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Look at what the industry uses - gold. Certainly they cant all be wrong. Edited February 21, 2014 by Ripdubski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Your friends that said "stupid idea" have evidently not seen it flaking and peeling off a card edge connector. Two versions will make your life slightly more complicated, but hey, as long as I can buy the gold version, I'm happy. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I do not want to miss pre-order ... So do you make new thread for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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