Cybergoth Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm also always prefering "make" over "remake". If you'd possibly want to do a whole series of "Universal" conversions, I'd suggest "Cosmic Guerilla" next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'd also like to see a really good port of Lunar Lander. The FB2 version was a travesty. The 2600 could do a great vector-looking Lunar Lander, if we're willing to accept a 30Hz flicker on the terrain. Just break the terrain down into tiles of left- and right-facing diagonal lines, then use the infinite sprite-replication trick to display first the left-diagonal "tiles", then the right-diagonals on the next frame, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Or heck, Thrust & Gravitar show immediately what kind of Lunar Lander can be made. Not that Lunar Lander is all that fun though Edited July 14, 2006 by NE146 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sure, you could go with a nasty low-res playfield-based solution. But the constrained nature of Lunar Lander's terrain makes a better solution possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbanes Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Not that Lunar Lander is all that fun though Exactly. Play Deimos Lander instead. (Shill? What's that? I have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't me, it was the one armed man!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirin jensen Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Not that Lunar Lander is all that fun though Exactly. Play Deimos Lander instead. (Shill? What's that? I have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't me, it was the one armed man!) You might be shill, but that was my thought too. Deimos Lander is looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Here's a 160x192 mockup (stretched 200% horizontally) of how I imagine Zaxxon on the 2600. I know very little about the limits of the hardware, so please forgive any technical impossibilities demonstrated in this mockup. I just whipped this up in about 15 minutes, just to convey my vision of the game. Could a horizontally scrolling game such as this be possible on the 2600? I figure it's possible, looking at some of Activision's games such as Barnstorming and Chopper Command... That Zaxxon looks awesome. Be cool to have one like that, along with Baby Pac-man for the 2600 or 7800.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbanes Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Exactly. Play Deimos Lander instead. (Shill? What's that? I have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't me, it was the one armed man!) You might be shill, but that was my thought too. Deimos Lander is looking good! (Happy to hear you like the game!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I don't think Pengo needs to be on the list anymore. I just found out the ROM image I've had all these years was a prototype. It's still short of johnnywc quality, but Atari did a much better job than I had realized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Atari did do a badass job on Pengo. If anything needs to be made, IMO, its Turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 There does seem to be a conspicuous absence of homebrew racing games, doesn't there? I've always wondered why there was never a motorcycle racing game for the 2600. They'd be much easier for the 2600 to draw than race cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Sure, you could go with a nasty low-res playfield-based solution. But the constrained nature of Lunar Lander's terrain makes a better solution possible. If you don't mind 30Hz flicker, it's possible to have a smoothly-rotating ship (in a 25x21-pixel bounding box) overlaid on a high-resolution 96x85 background (background displayed every other scan line). No extra RAM required (!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 - Jr Pacman - Super Pac-man - Qix - TMNT 1 - Arkanoid - Bubble Bobble - Bubble Bobble 2 - Rainbow Islands - Duck Hunt - Rad Racer - SMB 1 - Swordquest Air World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Jr. Pacman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 If you don't mind 30Hz flicker, it's possible to have a smoothly-rotating ship (in a 25x21-pixel bounding box) overlaid on a high-resolution 96x85 backgroundIck. Full-screen, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I'd really like to see the nexthomebrew conversion be something groundbreaking, and IMHO, Baby Pac-Man would be a great thing to try and pull off. My #2 would be a more faithful Zaxxon And #3 would be Tron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Ick. Full-screen, please. 96 pixels is a bit narrow, but 85 double scan lines is pretty close to the full screen height. Add about 3 lines of readouts at the top and/or bottom and it would be full height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 tron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I'll second Tron. It's at the top of my wish list. I'd also like to see the initial FB2 releases of Asteroids Deluxe and Space Duel fixed or rewritten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Ick. Full-screen, please. 96 pixels is a bit narrow, but 85 double scan lines is pretty close to the full screen height. Add about 3 lines of readouts at the top and/or bottom and it would be full height. IMO 96 pixels is too narrow unless it is the only way. Couple that with 30 Hz flicker and I don't think that's a good solution, though it was a very impressive tech demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 30Hz flicker would be fine when dealing with faux-vector graphics. It's only when you have large solid blocks of color flickering (as in the FB2 Lunar Lander) that it gets unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofan Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Now my new wishlist (without the not realistic games for the VCS hardware): Finish: Elevator Action Rewrite: Mr. Do, Zaxxon? Make: Mappy, Bomb Jack, Scramble, Arkanoid (in that order) (if Pixelboy's Zaxxon mockup (I like it very much) is not doable here is one with vertical scrolling. The basic idea is the same as in Activisions Riverraid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hey, now you definitely need to update your vcs page with all the cool new mockups! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 (if Pixelboy's Zaxxon mockup (I like it very much) is not doable here is one with vertical scrolling. The basic idea is the same as in Activisions Riverraid) Very nice! The fuel gauge, score and number of reserve ships are missing from your mockup, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofan Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Small update: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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