BBWW Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Any time I send money in advance I understand the risks. If I could not afford to lose it I don't send it. Period. Be it crowdfunding or for a game that is "in the works." In the end I know my life will be fine without a game or a refund and for me I believe that this community has more benefits from the people here than perils. I have worked with Mark, I like him and I do believe that at some point the community will be rewarded. This thread should be locked. I'm sorry for the few that did not get their money back, most did. Shit happens, deal with it. At this point in time this thread will accomplish nothing except make it impossible for any amicable resolution going forward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxivision Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I never received my refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jaxivision said: I never received my refund. Most of us didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 11 hours ago, BBWW said: Any time I send money in advance I understand the risks. If I could not afford to lose it I don't send it. Period. Be it crowdfunding or for a game that is "in the works." In the end I know my life will be fine without a game or a refund and for me I believe that this community has more benefits from the people here than perils. I have worked with Mark, I like him and I do believe that at some point the community will be rewarded. This thread should be locked. I'm sorry for the few that did not get their money back, most did. Shit happens, deal with it. At this point in time this thread will accomplish nothing except make it impossible for any amicable resolution going forward. Why be cryptic? How do you think your friend will reward those of us who lost money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 18 hours ago, DZ-Jay said: Be my guest, continue bitching about it all you want, see how far that gets you, how much it enriches this community, and how much refund it returns. -dZ. 13 hours ago, Lathe26 said: I agree with DZ-Jay. While it is understandable that folks are still angry, there are no further refunds coming and there is no community benefit here. After 8 years, 85 pages, and 2100+ posts, we've beaten this dead horse to the point of coating the walls with splattered rancid meat. Perhaps it is time to lock the thread. This is the only way to contact him on the off chance he might read it one day. So please do not lock it. Until DZ-Jay shrugged and dismissed people not getting a refund, it was civil. And can be again. I bring it up every now and then so people do not forget what he did and on the off chance I actually get the refund. So until next year..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 He can't post anyway since he got banned couple years ago, even though the status still say subscriber. I wrote it off since it only money and not worth getting pissed off about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 ? 1 hour ago, SoulBuster said: This is the only way to contact him on the off chance he might read it one day. So please do not lock it. Until DZ-Jay shrugged and dismissed people not getting a refund, it was civil. And can be again. I bring it up every now and then so people do not forget what he did and on the off chance I actually get the refund. So until next year..... This thread has been a bitchfest for several years, and as you mentioned, it gets brought up to life precisely to keep the shit going. Great community cohesion there, keep it up. Perhaps we should start talking about Amico here to get the thread locked. ? -dZ. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmadruga Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 4/9/2020 at 6:33 PM, carlsson said: At least for the past 3-5 years, with the advent of IntyBASIC it probably be a matter of a few evenings or no more than a few months for an average programmer to make that type of game. I agree many of us here could do "Jetpac clone with fluff". Maybe that should be the next IntyBASIC contest theme 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxivision Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 What did he get banned for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 11:58 AM, DZ-Jay said: ? This thread has been a bitchfest for several years, and as you mentioned, it gets brought up to life precisely to keep the shit going. Great community cohesion there, keep it up. Perhaps we should start talking about Amico here to get the thread locked. ? -dZ. I dont see what the problem is. Its obvious that the masses would rather have the game than the money. Why not just finish the game? It looks bad-ass... id buy one. If the money sent by everyone was for product developement (and was stated as such) then i understand why no money was returned. But if these people were pre paying for a finished game, thats another story... and borderline theft. I am on the outside of all this, but if i were around back then, im sure i would have pre ordered too. I think the game should get finished. It looks cool, lots of work has already been done with it. ...just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: I dont see what the problem is. Its obvious that the masses would rather have the game than the money. Why not just finish the game? It looks bad-ass... id buy one. If the money sent by everyone was for product developement (and was stated as such) then i understand why no money was returned. But if these people were pre paying for a finished game, thats another story... and borderline theft. I am on the outside of all this, but if i were around back then, im sure i would have pre ordered too. I think the game should get finished. It looks cool, lots of work has already been done with it. ...just my 2 cents. Perhaps you should go back and read the entire thread to get an idea of what is the problem. You may also want to find the many other threads related to GroovyBee for the bigger picture on the controversy. There's plenty out there, just a quick search away. For starters, those complaining are aware that the culprit they are complaining about has left the forum for several years now, so they are pretty much shaking their fist at the clouds. So, it has become a sort of sport for a select few, to just bump up the thread every so often to rekindle the flame of angst and discord and bitch once again to ... no one in particular. It's truly a collective two minutes of hate -- it adds nothing to the community, but I'm sure it makes the few feel a bit better when others take their invitation to share in their rage and anguish. dZ. Edited December 28, 2021 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Perhaps you should go back and read the entire thread to get an idea of what is the problem. You may also want to find the many other threads related to GroovyBee for the bigger picture on the controversy. There's plenty out there, just a quick search away. For starters, those complaining are aware that the culprit they are complaining about has left the forum for several years now, so they are pretty much shaking their fist at the clouds. So, it has become a sort of sport for a select few, to just bump up the thread every so often to rekindle the flame of angst and discord and bitch once again to ... no one in particular. It's truly a collective two minutes of hate -- it adds nothing to the community, but I'm sure it makes the few feel a bit better when others take their invitation to share in their rage and anguish. dZ. Like i said before, i do not know the whole story (i did read a couple hundred posts though). I just think it would be a neat game if ever finished. Not trying to add fuel to the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: Like i said before, i do not know the whole story (i did read a couple hundred posts though). I just think it would be a neat game if ever finished. Not trying to add fuel to the fire. Ah, yeah, it would be neat. Unfortunately, by this point, it seems unlikely that these games would ever be finished. But others could try their hands at remaking them. A Jet Pack sort of game would be cool to see. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 This is why I am such a huge proponent of homebrews being free/open source software, even if they're abandoned, they can be finished, and other developers can learn from them. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 12/27/2021 at 5:40 AM, Jaxivision said: What did he get banned for? He did not get banned. He just went away. Oddly enough he is still listed as a subscriber, so does that mean he is still actively paying for each renewal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignorama Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, fdr4prez said: Oddly enough he is still listed as a subscriber, so does that mean he is still actively paying for each renewal? shouldnt be a problem, since he took a lot of money of the community for nothing ? SCNR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.