+skr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I gave my second device to ProWizard as he had none. So if there will be a second run I´m in with one, too. I always love to have a second device to show around and let others get hands on at meetings (which we luckily have lots of here in Germany). Funny enough we are collecting pre-orders but no one announced to produce it. But this device is absolutely worth trying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Firedawg Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 "Funny enough we are collecting pre-orders but no one announced to produce it. But this device is absolutely worth trying it." I think Simius at post #19 is just checking to see if there is enough interest to pursue another run of IDE Plus 2.0 devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Nice to know you have a good opinion about my work. So let it be a pre-order. Prices will be probably the same as previously - US$75 board, US$6 (optional) ribbon cable and US$10 shipping cost. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 @simius Well THAT IS GREAT NEWS! Sorry to ask... I did miss this in the first thread... what is the optional ribbon cable? Is that like the PBI cable on BlackBox (so you don't have to mount the IDE+ directly to the atari XL?) Like I wrote before: count me in for 5 interfaces... for a start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Sorry to ask... I did miss this in the first thread... what is the optional ribbon cable? Is that like the PBI cable on BlackBox (so you don't have to mount the IDE+ directly to the atari XL?) I´m not Simius but I can tell you, that is exactly that. I totally forgot about it, as I never used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Ribbon cable isn't necessary, but some users prefer that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 OK clear... one last question: will IDE+ 2.0 interface the same when you order ribbon cable with it? Is the ribbon cable in fact an extender of the PBI port of the XL? In BlackBox this is a bit different. On blackBox there is this 'male 50pin scsi connector' where the XL ribbon cable connects too. On IDE+ pictures I only saw a 50 pin cart connector to put it back on XL. So how is it connected with ribbon cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Interface is the same. No mater - with or without a ribbon cable. 50-pin header for cable is a standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 If a new run is made, would it be possible to add dip switches for PBI ID selection instead of moving the SMD resistor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is there a feature to do a cold boot atari without doing a power cycle? And if yes... is this also available without SDX? I read docs... Do I understand right that when one has a non DOS partition on D1 a disk drive on sio is needed (or a cart) to run fdisk again to swap partition? Wouldn't it be possible to add a button that generates interrupt on pbi so a built in fdisk will run (or a default partition is mounted to D1: As follow up of last question: is there a way of swapping partitions during operation? Thx. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl7ukk Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Hallo, If possible I would like to have two IDE PLUS 2.0 with ribbon cable. tnx Andreas/ dl7ukk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) @ProWizard: I am not sure if you saw this: http://drac030.krap.pl/ide-plus-config-screen-reference.pdf The doc contains answers to the first two questions. That's true that one will need another drive (serial or parallel floppy, sio2pc or such) to run FDISK. It is good to keep D1: not monted on the disk for that reason. BTW. IDE+ FDISK is old: I would first try to use SIDE FDISK, which supports APT format. In the old (IDEa) format swappng partitions is not possible. Since the BIOS allows to mount and/or load ATR files, non-DOS partitions are no longer needed. Unfortunately, there is no way to "swap" anything during operation, as the hardware lacks the button you mention (and SIDE has). Edited March 14, 2013 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 @drac030 Wow!!! I did not see that reference. What a fabulous feature(s). I love this interface already (and I even did not use it yet!) Now I definitely want 5 of these + 5 ribbon cables. Interesting device! Would'nt it be cool if these ATR files you mentioned could be loaded from a FAT32 partition in stead SDX partition. Would that be possible too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Everything is possible, just yet for at least two months I won't have enough time to code that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Actual status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Please add ABBUC-member "Eintreiber" to the list with one device. He doesn´t speak english, so I take care about that. I´ve opened a thread in the German based ABBUC forums and collect requests there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) How long before these are ready for payment and delivery? Thanks Edited March 14, 2013 by IndusGT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Please add ABBUC-member "Eintreiber" to the list with one device. He doesn´t speak english, so I take care about that. I´ve opened a thread in the German based ABBUC forums and collect requests there. Done. I would take this opportunity to ask you the question. Do you know someone (e.g. also ABBUC member) who lives in Essen (nord-west border, close to the Bottrop or just in the Bottrop) and would be willing to help in personal matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How long before these are ready for payment and delivery? Thanks It depend, when the number of orders reaches MOQ. Production take about one month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It depend, when the number of orders reaches MOQ. Production take about one month. I see the list, can you add an XL ribbon cable to mine? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl7ukk Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Hi Simius, … and two XL ribbon cable. regards andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 tfhh made a good comparison about the differences between SIDE2, MyIDE2 and IDE+ 2.0 at the ABBUC forums. But it seemed, that not everything about the IDE+ 2.0 is well known. I don't want to disrespect any of them. All three are great devices. But like tfhh, I just want to help, if can't decide which of them to use. Of course the IDE+ 2.0 does work with cartridges on unmodified XL/XEs. There might be constraints, but I don't have any issues with the cartridges and machines I use. Click to enlarge Big advantage: The cartridge port still is available, even on XEs: Click to enlarge This is not true for MyIDE2 and SIDE2. And of course the IDE+ 2.0 has a built in, battery puffered realtime clock: Big advantage: The cartridge port still is available, even on XEs: Click to enlarge SDX can easily be flashed, as the BIOS can be, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 If you are not really into SDX and you still want to use big harddisk partitions, running SpartaDos 3.x (disk version) you can not use MyIDE or SIDE on unmodified atari. MyIDE can run SpartaDos 3.x (disk version) but it needs an OS replacement. Although it works really well, it's a serious disadvantage. The MIO, Blackbox and IDE+ will boot this from harddisk on onmodified atari computer. The IDE+ is a cool small device, although the MIO and Blackbox also have a few other great features. It's hardly impossible to have all in one device. The benefit of the cart-solutions (MyIDE / SIDE) is that they are the smallest (very portable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Is the "Atari File Partition" released for use with the IDE+2? (My apologies, I'm not sure if I got the name correct.) It provides something like 137 possible partitions. But I think that it is only available now for use with SDX? ...not that I'll ever, ever, ever have 137 partitions on an Atari drive. And in the comparisons, don't forget the Intenal flash MyIDE (also with advantages and disadvantages). My favorite computer (this week) is an 800XL with excellent keyboard, 512K SRam, internal flash MyIDE, and Super Video 2.1. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Is the "Atari File Partition" released for use with the IDE+2? (My apologies, I'm not sure if I got the name correct.) It provides something like 137 possible partitions. But I think that it is only available now for use with SDX? ...not that I'll ever, ever, ever have 137 partitions on an Atari drive. If you mean APT, then yes - on Drac030's website. It provides for a theoretically unlimited number of partitions, but the only currently available partition editor for APT (i.e. mine) imposes a hard limit of 128 partitions. It should work with absolutely any DOS, though. I'm making some improvements to the "any DOS" version of FDISK, and this will be the partition editor to use going forward - once it's ready. And yes: I doubt anyone needs even 128 partitions. The program would have been MUCH simpler if it didn't have to cater for such a large number. Edited March 15, 2013 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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