Marco Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 I'll start collecting PAL when I'm done with NTSC (or close to done). Damn, tough(er) competition... hm, on second thought, you just stick to NTSC Wiz! :wink: Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Damn, tough(er) competition... hm, on second thought, you just stick to NTSC Wiz! :wink: You better don't trade any NTSC carts with him anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Marco was already trying to convince me not to collect the Brazillian pirates without success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 They are PAL carts dammit! Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 M-PAL works on NTSC televisions. I wonder who didn't win any of bonnacorsi's auctions last time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 M-PAL works on NTSC televisions. I wonder who didn't win any of bonnacorsi's auctions last time ? I know I got the best item Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Which one, as far as I know, me and atari_france walked away with most of the carts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Which one, as far as I know, me and atari_france walked away with most of the carts ? Carts are softcore, a real collector walks away with the hardware, the boxed Dactar Comp Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari art Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 This thread is somewhat depressing. From what I've gathered, all prototype games and Xonox games are basically self destructing. Some believe that these carts are in the end stages of their lifespan now. So those games equate in my mind to be valueless. Zilch. Worthless. Right? And what's the big deal about the difference between "real" prototypes and Best Electronics prototypes? Aren't both worthless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 This thread is somewhat depressing. From what I've gathered, all prototype games and Xonox games are basically self destructing. Some believe that these carts are in the end stages of their lifespan now. So those games equate in my mind to be valueless. Zilch. Worthless. Right? You can always reburn an EPROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Except from a few protos, all of them have been dumped and they are archived. Is there a list of the known-to-exist-but-not-yet-dumped-and-archived prototypes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 No, there isn't, it's not only a matter of dumped but also released. I have a couple of protos that can not be released for legal reasons. Also, there is a few out there like Alligator People that haven't been dumped yet. I am sure Tempest could come up with a decent list if you ask him nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariman Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 so what about the XONOX cartridges? Are they just the single ender carts or should I expect my double ender to just sorta stop working someday? ("NOOOOOO!!! Come back, Ghost Manor/Spike's Peak! I LOVE YOU!!" -- this has been a pre-re-enactment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Most dead XONOX carts I have seen were all double enders. I think I've only seen one dead single ender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari art Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 This thread is somewhat depressing. From what I've gathered, all prototype games and Xonox games are basically self destructing. Some believe that these carts are in the end stages of their lifespan now. So those games equate in my mind to be valueless. Zilch. Worthless. Right? You can always reburn an EPROM. I can't reburn an eprom. Besides that, reburning an eprom would turn a "real" prototype into a fake (or so the bizzaro logic of prototypes goes). I'm screwed either way. But thanks for the thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I can't reburn an eprom. Besides that, reburning an eprom would turn a "real" prototype into a fake (or so the bizzaro logic of prototypes goes). I'm screwed either way. But thanks for the thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I can't reburn an eprom. Besides that, reburning an eprom would turn a "real" prototype into a fake (or so the bizzaro logic of prototypes goes). I'm screwed either way. But thanks for the thought. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari art Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I can't reburn an eprom. Besides that, reburning an eprom would turn a "real" prototype into a fake (or so the bizzaro logic of prototypes goes). I'm screwed either way. But thanks for the thought. Tempest Hey, I won't necessarily disagree with you. But I thought a "real" prototype had to be burned at Atari. Am I wrong in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariman Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Most dead XONOX carts I have seen were all double enders. I think I've only seen one dead single ender. "My beloved double ender! Noooooo" (cries self to sleep) I"ll just take *extra* special care of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I am sure Tempest could come up with a decent list if you ask him nicely. Got it. Ahem... Tempest... could you, time permitting, kindly put together a list of known-to-exist-but-not-yet-dumped-and-archived and/or known-to-exist-but-still-unreleased prototypes? Please? Many thanks in advance. (Did that work?) Anyway, I'm just curious as to what's still out there. It'd also be interesting to know why the games have remained undumped or unreleased. As long as it didn't erupt into a flame war or something. Hmm... flame war. Sounds like an idea for a homebrew game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 The number of games known to exist but not in circulation are growing small. That's why I closed down my VGAM egroups. Here is the remaining list (from memory). Snow Plow Pink Panther Good Luck Charlier Brown Pleiades (will be dumped by AA) Cat Trax (will be dumped by AA) 2 Activision protos (dumped) I think the 2600 well is beginning to run dry, but there are still some very exciting protos for other classic platforms still to be circulated. Like we still haven't gotten Mail Plane or Batter Up for the Vectrex, for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 But there aren't there a few more on Tempest website? Like the two AD&Ds, Funky Fish, In Search of the Golden Skull, Loco-Motion, Rocky & Bullwinkle...? And I have seen at least two more (confidential!) which aren't anywhere available yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 And I have seen at least two more (confidential!) which aren't anywhere available yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Tempest... could you, time permitting, kindly put together a list of known-to-exist-but-not-yet-dumped-and-archived and/or known-to-exist-but-still-unreleased prototypes? Please? Many thanks in advance. Well there's a problem with that. I know of many unreleased prototypes, but alot of them are to remain confidential (for now). I'll try and give a list of the ones I know of that can be named. 3-D Rubik's Cube AD&D Tower of Mystery AD&D Treasure of Tarmin Anteater "Bloody Human" Freeway Funky Fish Good Luck Charlie Brown Hoover Dam (The Leavy Game) In Search of the Golden Skull Keystone Kapers II Locomotion Mission Omega (Possibly) Ninja Fighter Pink Panther Pleadies Rocky and Bullwinkle Rush Hour Sharp Shot (Possibly) Street Sports Basketball Twister Underworld Unknown Activision Prototype #1 (two versions) Unknown Activision Prototype #2 Unknown Activision Prototype #3 (Submarine Game) Venetian Blinds Demo Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Well there's a problem with that. I know of many unreleased prototypes, but alot of them are to remain confidential (for now). I hate it when people say that. If it's so confidential, what is the need for anyone to know about it? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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