GroovyBee Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Shouldn't this constant CONST DISC_SOUTH_WEST = $0025 be $0019 ? You fixed DISC_SW in the same way Well spotted. Fixed in my version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Shouldn't this constant CONST DISC_SOUTH_WEST = $0025 be $0019 ? You fixed DISC_SW in the same way GroovyBee is in charge of maintaining the constants.bas file. I'll check it for next update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Feature request: music synthesizer support. I really, really want to play with this now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Feature request : volume for music. It could be used to fade in and out songs and to lower the music in case of relevant sfx or speech (from intellivoice) Edited October 18, 2015 by artrag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Feature request : volume for music. It could be used to fade in and out songs and to lower the music in case of relevant sfx or speech (from intellivoice) I second that. I would actually request for per-note volume control. That way, performance control can be simulated, like in MIDI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Feature request: music synthesizer support. I really, really want to play with this now Lol! You've had one for fifteen minutes that you got from the back of some guy's car in an underground garage and you already want to program with it. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I second that. I would actually request for per-note volume control. That way, performance control can be simulated, like in MIDI. I third this. (I eight the sandbox?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Feature request: music synthesizer support. I really, really want to play with this now Attached is an example of how to interface my scan_syn assembly code to IntyBASIC. If you're willing to put up with a few inline assembly statements to get things initialized, you can hook up a pair of routines to receive synth key-down and key-up events. You just need to arrange fro SCAN_SYN to get called regularly. If nanochess wants to integrate this more cleanly into IntyBASIC, by all means do so. This code steals a few bytes from the top of ECS RAM to do its work. As far as I can tell, IntyBASIC doesn't even know about the 2K of ECS RAM from $4040 - $47FF. I haven't tested it on the ECS just yet, but I will soon. All this code is released into the public domain. If nanochess or someone else wants to adapt it into IntyBASIC, great. If you want to just use it as is, also great. The BASIC side of things is really, really simple. Sure there's a dozen lines of inline ASM, but after that, it's all BASIC. . ' Really simple demonstration of interfacing the Intellivision Synth ' to IntyBASIC with a small external assembly routine. ' ' This demo doesn't play any music. Rather, it simply fills 3 rows of ' the screen with squares indicating which of the 49 synth keys are ' currently pressed. ' ' J. Zbiciak, 2015 ' Hereby released to the public domain. CONST syn_key_addr = $47F4 DEF FN syn_key = PEEK( syn_key_addr ) ASM INCLUDE "scan_syn.asm" CLS ' Initialize the synthesizer code. ASM CALL INIT_SYN ;' clear all the state vars RESTORE my_syn_dn ASM MVI _read, R0 ;'\ Call 'my_syn_dn' for ASM MVO R0, SYNDN ;' |_ key-down events. The key ASM SWAP R0 ;' | pressed is in syn_key ASM MVO R0, SYNDN+1 ;'/ RESTORE my_syn_up ASM MVI _read, R0 ;'\ Call 'my_syn_up' for ASM MVO R0, SYNUP ;' |_ key-up events. The key ASM SWAP R0 ;' | released is in syn_key ASM MVO R0, SYNUP+1 ;'/ ' For this simple demo, just keep repeatedly scanning the ' synthesizer keyboard forever: ASM CALL SCAN_SYN GOTO forever ' On key-down, go put a '#' on the screen according to the ' key number. Keys 0-15 go in row 5, keys 16-31 go in row 6 ' and keys 32-48 go in row 7. my_syn_dn: PROCEDURE ofs = syn_key IF ofs >= 32 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 IF ofs >= 16 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 PRINT AT ofs + 102 COLOR 7, "#" END ' On key-up, go put a ' ' on the screen according to the ' key number. Keys 0-15 go in row 5, keys 16-31 go in row 6 ' and keys 32-48 go in row 7. my_syn_up: PROCEDURE ofs = syn_key IF ofs >= 32 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 IF ofs >= 16 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 PRINT AT ofs + 102 COLOR 0, " " END synthbas.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 And yes, this is a massive hack because I didn't see an equivalent to VARPTR to get the address of a label associated with a PROCEDURE. Otherwise this could have been a couple POKE statements: . RESTORE my_syn_dn ASM MVI _read, R0 ;'\ Call 'my_syn_dn' for ASM MVO R0, SYNDN ;' |_ key-down events. The key ASM SWAP R0 ;' | pressed is in syn_key ASM MVO R0, SYNDN+1 ;'/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 *drool*. Can't wait till I get home and have some spare time. The ECS etc will work just fine with a model 1 console, right? I don't think I want to be timing the reset button that much, so my dev setup may end up being frankenkit. I assume that a synth-based game is simply detecting keypresses, and playing an appropriate tone for as long as it's depressed. It only now occurs to me that there's no actual "music" generation happening here; this is simply a 49 button controller. All the magic has to happen within the ROM itself. Need to brainstorm some random and wacky ideas for this thing. Yay, a piano player! And um... what the hell other kinds of games/programs can you really do with something like this? No wonder no one else made one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) The ECS etc will work just fine with a model 1 console, right? Yep, works just dandy! I do a lot of my testing with various combinations of Inty1 or Inty2, ECS and Intellivoice. They may not all match in appearance, but they're all compatible. I assume that a synth-based game is simply detecting keypresses, and playing an appropriate tone for as long as it's depressed. It only now occurs to me that there's no actual "music" generation happening here; this is simply a 49 button controller. All the magic has to happen within the ROM itself. Yep, it's a big 49-button controller. It's got a full complement of diodes so there's zero ghosting. All 49 keys are fully independent. The SCAN_SYN code I posted uses a callback architecture to deliver keyup/keydown events back to the host program from the main scanning routine that's meant to be called periodically. If you want a different architecture, you'll have to modify the code. All tone generation and association between tones and keys is up to the ROM itself. If you dig through the programming forum archives, I believe you can find my original synth program which does play notes. The SCAN_SYN code I posted above is nearly identical to the SCAN_SYN driver in that demo. I made a couple minor modifications to integrate it into IntyBASIC. I've placed both versions in the public domain. Folks, go nuts! Edited October 19, 2015 by intvnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Just thinking out loud... What are the capabilities of the intellivoice? Could it be used for music or sfx (in addition to the psg)? Edited October 19, 2015 by artrag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Feature request: music synthesizer support. I really, really want to play with this now I was scratching my head reading this, but you mean music keyboard! I didn't knew it was called music synthetizer. Feature request : volume for music. It could be used to fade in and out songs and to lower the music in case of relevant sfx or speech (from intellivoice) Oh yes! I've this in my list since First Spear requested it. I second that. I would actually request for per-note volume control. That way, performance control can be simulated, like in MIDI. That would require a change in music format. Lol! You've had one for fifteen minutes that you got from the back of some guy's car in an underground garage and you already want to program with it. :) I third this. (I eight the sandbox?) Attached is an example of how to interface my scan_syn assembly code to IntyBASIC. If you're willing to put up with a few inline assembly statements to get things initialized, you can hook up a pair of routines to receive synth key-down and key-up events. You just need to arrange fro SCAN_SYN to get called regularly. If nanochess wants to integrate this more cleanly into IntyBASIC, by all means do so. This code steals a few bytes from the top of ECS RAM to do its work. As far as I can tell, IntyBASIC doesn't even know about the 2K of ECS RAM from $4040 - $47FF. I haven't tested it on the ECS just yet, but I will soon. All this code is released into the public domain. If nanochess or someone else wants to adapt it into IntyBASIC, great. If you want to just use it as is, also great. The BASIC side of things is really, really simple. Sure there's a dozen lines of inline ASM, but after that, it's all BASIC. . ' Really simple demonstration of interfacing the Intellivision Synth ' to IntyBASIC with a small external assembly routine. ' ' This demo doesn't play any music. Rather, it simply fills 3 rows of ' the screen with squares indicating which of the 49 synth keys are ' currently pressed. ' ' J. Zbiciak, 2015 ' Hereby released to the public domain. CONST syn_key_addr = $47F4 DEF FN syn_key = PEEK( syn_key_addr ) ASM INCLUDE "scan_syn.asm" CLS ' Initialize the synthesizer code. ASM CALL INIT_SYN ;' clear all the state vars RESTORE my_syn_dn ASM MVI _read, R0 ;'\ Call 'my_syn_dn' for ASM MVO R0, SYNDN ;' |_ key-down events. The key ASM SWAP R0 ;' | pressed is in syn_key ASM MVO R0, SYNDN+1 ;'/ RESTORE my_syn_up ASM MVI _read, R0 ;'\ Call 'my_syn_up' for ASM MVO R0, SYNUP ;' |_ key-up events. The key ASM SWAP R0 ;' | released is in syn_key ASM MVO R0, SYNUP+1 ;'/ ' For this simple demo, just keep repeatedly scanning the ' synthesizer keyboard forever: ASM CALL SCAN_SYN GOTO forever ' On key-down, go put a '#' on the screen according to the ' key number. Keys 0-15 go in row 5, keys 16-31 go in row 6 ' and keys 32-48 go in row 7. my_syn_dn: PROCEDURE ofs = syn_key IF ofs >= 32 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 IF ofs >= 16 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 PRINT AT ofs + 102 COLOR 7, "#" END ' On key-up, go put a ' ' on the screen according to the ' key number. Keys 0-15 go in row 5, keys 16-31 go in row 6 ' and keys 32-48 go in row 7. my_syn_up: PROCEDURE ofs = syn_key IF ofs >= 32 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 IF ofs >= 16 THEN ofs = ofs + 4 PRINT AT ofs + 102 COLOR 0, " " END I'm amazed by this. I suspect the INCLUDE "scan_syn.asm" should be at end of the IntyBASIC program. Hmmmm! a new feature request for IntyBASIC, procedure addresses To play notes, you can create "music" data in internal 16-bit RAM, first word would be speed, next word would be the note. Then use PLAY varptr(my_music(0)) The other way would be to extract the frequency table from intybasic_epilogue.asm and play the simple notes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I suspect the INCLUDE "scan_syn.asm" should be at end of the IntyBASIC program. You noticed! Actually, if you look at scan_syn.asm, there's a big branch-around. I did this so I wouldn't get warnings about forward references to SET/EQU symbols. (SYNDN, SYNUP and so on.) So, yeah, the INCLUDE belongs at the top, not the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Hmmmm! a new feature request for IntyBASIC, procedure addresses BTW... do you like my hack for working around it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I was scratching my head reading this, but you mean music keyboard! I didn't knew it was called music synthetizer. Yep. I'm guessing you didn't / don't have one. It says "Music Synthesizer" right on the keyboard, at least here in the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 You noticed! Actually, if you look at scan_syn.asm, there's a big branch-around. I did this so I wouldn't get warnings about forward references to SET/EQU symbols. (SYNDN, SYNUP and so on.) So, yeah, the INCLUDE belongs at the top, not the bottom. Oh! I see. If there is a branch then there is no problem BTW... do you like my hack for working around it? Impressive and very well thought! Yep. I'm guessing you didn't / don't have one. It says "Music Synthesizer" right on the keyboard, at least here in the US. synth.jpg Okie-dokie! now I'll not forget it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yep. I'm guessing you didn't / don't have one. It says "Music Synthesizer" right on the keyboard, at least here in the US. synth.jpg Ah, I also got confused by that. "Why are people calling it a synthesizer? shirley they must know it's just a keyboard..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Ah, I also got confused by that. "Why are people calling it a synthesizer? shirley they must know it's just a keyboard..." ;) ;) ;) Yeah, the actual synthesizer is the Intellivision itself (specifically, its PSGs). Otherwise, I've just been calling it by whatever name it has on the label, even if the name on the label doesn't quite make sense. Edited October 20, 2015 by intvnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I call it the synthesizer so that people don't get it confused with a) the Keyboard component, or b) the ECS keyboard. nanochess, my thinking is that it would be cool to have this available as "only" a controller - and *what* happens in response to a key press is entirely up to the programmer. As opposed to tying it into the MUSIC stuff, or whatever. A 49 key controller is ridiculously impractical. But I do have ideas. Think Ferris Buhler as a tease. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 I call it the synthesizer so that people don't get it confused with a) the Keyboard component, or b) the ECS keyboard. nanochess, my thinking is that it would be cool to have this available as "only" a controller - and *what* happens in response to a key press is entirely up to the programmer. As opposed to tying it into the MUSIC stuff, or whatever. A 49 key controller is ridiculously impractical. But I do have ideas. Think Ferris Buhler as a tease. I don't know who is Ferris Buhler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I don't know who is Ferris Buhler... Well, without totally ruining the surprise - let's just say I may want "other" sounds to come from the keyboard, not just musical notes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well, without totally ruining the surprise - let's just say I may want "other" sounds to come from the keyboard, not just musical notes Just I searched for the name, I've saw the movie for some reason I didn't remember the name of the character but of course Matthew Broderick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I call it the synthesizer so that people don't get it confused with a) the Keyboard component, or b) the ECS keyboard. nanochess, my thinking is that it would be cool to have this available as "only" a controller - and *what* happens in response to a key press is entirely up to the programmer. As opposed to tying it into the MUSIC stuff, or whatever. A 49 key controller is ridiculously impractical. But I do have ideas. Think Ferris Buhler as a tease. Ahh... I see you're thinking 1980s sampler-synth combo! Welcome to Euro-pop and Elektro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Ahh... I see you're thinking 1980s sampler-synth combo! Welcome to Euro-pop and Elektro! Yup. And then some. But first I gotta talk to Joe about a dangling conversation that came up with Cra-cra-cra-crazybus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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