enoofu Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Holy underwear! Where can I get one of those? Believe it should be released soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZIoq7pp34 here their facebook https://www.facebook.com/retroUSB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I forgot to share this with you guys, I saw it on my way home today. Just when I was confident that all the recent signs point towards the Chameleon not having a chance in hell of getting funded... I completely forgot that some people will believe anything... That'll do, 'Merica, that'll do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Goat semen. That stuff's not as easy to acquire as you might immediately think. All the goat semen in the world won't be sticky enough to patch the colossal hole in Mike's logic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Quite amusing to go from a 1 meter sq. dedicated arcade board to a shit-pot sized R-Pi for a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I wouldn't read too much into things like this, UK has been busy with family, I have family and hobbies that are honestly more interesting than commenting on this daily, would I rather take the plane out and fly the Blue Ridge mountains on a sunny day or rehash this, I'm going flying! I am not deliberately being hermetic, some things need more words than others and I'd rather not repeat myself over and over, many people are doing a great job of making the important points all over the web. I also don't want to play into something that MK has been working at very hard, putting a face on a large groundswell reaction to claim that its just this one guy, or this one podcast or that one forum. I also know allot that I can't or won't comment on for various reasons, simple honest reasons such as people asking to be left out of it, or that the source is communications sent in confidence which I will keep. But I will say that there are a few more people than UK Mike and I that are reading and even commenting on this thread that are stakeholders in all this. I think UK Mikes response to thenavguy's questions was spot on, and summarily ignored. I also bear no ill will toward the Coleco brand, it was my first console and I would love to see good things for that name. Those of us "in the know" are astonished that they did not look into what they were putting their name on closer, there was so much bad news already tied to this thing. I will do my best to explain what you asked though, what are they thinking with some of the issues discussed here. Phases of participating in an MK project. One thing that has been touched on is how John Carlson was thrown under the bus, and backed over. I was amused and annoyed by him but now he is in the same boat that quite a few of us are in; an MK project alumni club. I would sit down for a beer with John if I saw him, he probably had no idea what he was getting into. There is a very clear pattern of how things progress in one of these projects and almost anyone involved in one would have the same story. A few years ago I was looking for a Subaru Baja turbo and they have been out of production since 06 and not easy to find so that meant dealing with the used car market, I found a clean one at a dealership in Manassas and went to look it over. It was one of those buy here pay here kind of places but the truck was clean so I wrote them a check and left with it. While I was there I could not help but feel like I was on the set of some reality show, things felt scripted and contrived as if the employees were playing roles and working from a script. I posted about this on a car forum that I am on and someone responded that I had seen a "system store" in action. As it turns out there are consultants that will come to your dealership and teach you how to process customers to get the highest number of sales with the least effort and there is a flow chart that customers are passed along resulting in getting them into a car or out the door very quickly. I think that MK has developed a system store method for utilizing talent for turning his dreams into reality. The first phase is that he has an idea for a entrepreneurial venture but only that, not the means or methods to make it into a real thing. Phase 2 is finding the people that can and offering them future value in the form of stock or other benefit such as one company paying back the other. There is allot of "WE" in this phase, your damn near partners and it is the two of you 51% and 49% all the way baby. The we is also you working while he is learning what you know and then popping off for a wine tasting while you get the work done. Phase 3 is looking for your replacement while your still involved, that person is given the same deal and story and never told about you if at all possible, if needed new promises of future profits are created, In his own words quoted on this forum, ran out of stock to sell, created a new company. Then your off the project, maybe you just stop getting calls, maybe your called hard to work with, maybe the company is dissolved, but whatever method it is your promises of future compensation are up for re-interpretation. Phase 4 is denial and diminishing. Any negative aspects of the project are attributed to you while your role is continually downplayed "Yeah, yeah, he wrote a few articles but wasn't really a part of it" or "He just made a few phone calls but wasn't really a part of it" etc. Controlling the narrative. Big time issues here and this is not the MIke I knew. I recall one time we made up a poster to promote RetroGaming Roundup at shows we attend and part of it was quotes from iTunes reviews. Of course we put in some of the best positives but we also had a crop of the negative reviews just to be cheeky, one of my favourites is "There are so few retro gaming podcasts out there, it is a shame this is one of the biggest" still makes me laugh to this day. We have never deleted posts or kicked people off our forums/FB/etc. This is all new behaviour but the cause and effect is apparent, there is a huge and very deep backlash to the things that they are doing and people are talking about it, which is of course bad press. If you add up the negative Vs positive youtube views for example it is obvious that the community is not loving this and they simply cannot accept that is the legitimate reaction to the project. That email about him trying to have a video taken down was very telling. The 24/7 deleting and banning on FB coupled with what is very obviously a small and contrived positive group mixed in with a few casual questions is a desperate attempt to control the appearance of legitimacy where they can. What I am seeing is a N. Korea type farcical presentation of legitimacy, so absurd and easily seen through but clearly crafted to be presented to crowdfunding as look we are real, have a real prototype, and have an adoring fan following, hoping that they don't look at anything other than those sources. Lying. I can only factually tell you what I dealt with. When he came up with the idea for Retro mag I had recently bought part of GameGavel, which with me being in the denial and diminishing phase he has referred to me as a "small minority shareholder" also known as the only one of his friends who gave him money, and I asked him if this was a separate venture or part of GG and he affirmed that it was part of GG so I said "Ok". When he was launching it he utilized the RetroGaming Roundup show and its media outlets heavily, on a daily basis and there was allot of promising about how the show was going to be integrated and see advertising and representation but when the first issue came we were no where to be found other than in a top ten listing. UK and I called him up and asked WTF was everything we were promised. At first it was a "yeah you know we really had to rush to put this together and maybe in the future ....." but UK and I pressed him on why he had everything else done and pointed out that we could have prepared those things but were never asked. Finally we got the email where we were addressed in a very cold sterile and stiff manner and were told that magazines simply did not do those sorts of things and thats the way it was. That is when and why UK and I stopped writing for the mag. So when he came up with the idea for the console, if you search this thread I have discussed my role in that already, I asked him a similar question, is this studio (which is what it was at the time, a studio to be followed by a console by that studio) a new business or part of GG/Retro and he affirmed that it was part of GG/Retro and as I recall the phrase was something like "Yeah, yeah, its got the RETRO logo stamped right on the front of it" and I said "Ok". And this is what I believed right up until the Indigogo/kickstart of the Retro VGS. If you search the other thread which is now closed you will find my comment that I stood to make money on this system if it succeeded, at that time I was still unaware of the new company that had been created about a month before the kickstarter/indigogo and the RETRO VGS assets transferred into that, and speaking for myself and two other GG/Retro shareholders we were never told about that. When we found out and confronted him about it the response was absurd and has been quoted in this thread. He claimed that it was always going to be a separate venture but that GG would benefit at arms length by free subscriptions to the mag and such. So quite frankly I don't care if it is the greatest console on Earth. If you look at the dates the companies were created and closed and overlay that with the various announcements and claims made you can clearly see that all but the last month prior to kickstarter/Indiegogo #1 of development of concept and the actual product was done prior to the new companies existence with the logo stamped right on it totally disproving the notion it was a separate thing. When confronted by this his response as UK Mike put it was a Coke and a Smile of how we just don't understand why what it did is Ok and good for us. If not illegal it is certainly unethical so any of this talk about the outrage and indignity at how people are reacting to the project is the most pompous and arrogant position that could be taken. System designed and molds purchased under this company: GAMEGAVEL LLC Entity Number:201029410278 Assets move to this company one month prior to launch: RETRO ENTERTAINMENT TECHNOLOGY, INC. Entity Number:C3823713 Assets were moved to this third company that is selling it as the Coleco Chameleon: RETRO VIDEO GAME SYSTEMS, INC. Entity Number:C3850998 Wow, man, just wow. Glad to get an insider's voice to Mike's history of use and abuse of this fellow comrads. It makes me sick, yet also confirms that Mike Kennedy is not one to be trusted. I get that he has changed, and not for the better. Truly amazing to watch this real life soap opera unfold. Yet day by day Mike is falling further down the rabbit hole. This is not at all the happy "retroland" of Mike's vision but some twisted Through the Looking Glass type shenanegans. We the retrogaming community as a collective whole are Alice, and Mike Kennedy is the Mad Hatter. Everyone please stop chasing the rabbit... Sorry if my post doesn't make sense. It's getting extremely late but I can't stop reading this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Believe the problem is he trying to do to much, as a lot of people here would lay down $200 for a AVS, which is a fpga based NES/FC But this prototype actually delivers exactly what it claims to be. Chameleon is well, a Chameleon. It disguises itself in something else's color. And yes, I am definitely saving up for the AVS. Been drooling since it was announced on January 1st, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raticon Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm launching my new automobile kickstarter tomorrow. I know last time, you laughed at my kickstarter where I bought the ford pinto tooling and said I was going to stick an electric motor in it. I figure it was mostly because I didn't have a proper prototype, and had never built a car--much less an electric one, but if you'll look, I've made some changes. Now I have a prototype. See, I've spray painted my original pinto case, and taped lightning bolts to the chevy V8 that I've dropped inside for no identifiable reason. I've also licensed the Trabant name, because what eastern-European comrade didn't love driving those back in the day? Extra recognition, fo' sho. I call it the Trabant Stallion. ...and this totally isn't exactly the same picture from that other post several months ago... Me being the owner of both an Oldsmobile Delta 88 and a Trabant 601 "Universal" this just cracked me up big-time! Please do not forget that it only runs on your own special kind of petrol, ordered only from you. Nevermind the fact that it is just regular petrol in ordinary Walmart Jerry-cans with some spraypaint and a cool sticker on them, and while you claim to have had that chevy V8 running like 80 Miles to the gallon you have still failed to wire up the headlights and the ignition (and starter) so it is always on, you have to start it by connecting the cable to the battery directly. Oh, and you don't really have any suspension, you just welded the axles to the frame directly because... reasons. (I tried hard to find a good hardwiring the controller analogy here...) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Oh, and you don't really have any suspension, you just welded the axles to the frame directly because... reasons. (I tried hard to find a good hardwiring the controller analogy here...) Would a truly suspensionless car (besides extremely rough handling) physically break apart if driven on a dirt road or pothole riddled street? If the only thing that could absorb shock were the tires? I imagine the bearings would wear out or break in short order. Worse if the pavement was uneven, it is likely that only three wheels would make contact in certain instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raticon Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Would a truly suspensionless car (besides extremely rough handling) physically break apart if driven on a dirt road or pothole riddled street? If the only thing that could absorb shock were the tires? I imagine the bearings would wear out or break in short order. Worse if the pavement was uneven, it is likely that only three wheels would make contact in certain instances. Yes. Besides being extremely uncomfortable at any speed except very very slow the stress it puts on chassis, frame, axles, bearings and such would physically break the car in a small amount of time, beginning with small cracks and fractures building up to total and catastrophic failure in the parts involved. For that reason, only things like lawnmowers, forklifts, some tractors and those small baggage-transporters at airports and such vehicles that very rarely go above speeds like 5 - 10mph are those without suspension. On the note of catastrophic, this is catastrophically off-topic so we can discuss suspensions somewehere else . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Good morning America, today is KS-day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Nick Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't read too much into things like this Thank you for opening up about all of this. It's rare to get this much info before a product launches, and not years after. Nothing sinister. I've had a bereavement. Truely sorry to hear that. Edited February 26, 2016 by Retro Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Nick Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Double post. What happened? Edited February 26, 2016 by Retro Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBloke Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 A single device for non technical self styled retro game enthusiasts, busy adults in their 30-50's, which hooks up to the HDTV that provides arcade chip compatible replica hardware for actual original arcade games to run on , served up in durable cartridge format in, presumably, multi cart configuration, as well as a single system for games from various home platforms to get a second life such as english patched RPGs and other game classics never brought stateside due to previous economic pressures. Games are produced on demand at reasonable (or at least stated set) prices. No fuss, no muss, minimal interference from the wife, and she may be one of these people too as many women who play JRPGs. But dont they already own the Retron 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakpack Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Raspberry Pi does have it's own store, and each Pi has a unique serial key for the purpose of locking software content. I've never bought anything or used it though as my Pi 2 is primarily used as a MAME cab. I'm am gonna have to check it out! I'd definitely support the games as long as they aren't too androidy lol. Edited February 26, 2016 by Breakpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Yeah, the retro AVS will be mine. Ever since I made the plunge to RGB on most systems, I really haven't been able to force myself to go back to NES's composite. Anyway, as it turns out I'm sick today (yay...), but at least it means that I get to hang out at home and refresh this page for the next 8 hours. Luckily, I've got one of those 8-oz 'prosumer' popcorn makers, so I should be able to make it through okay. If my comments start getting inappropriate, I'm hopped up on dayquil, sudafed, and if I start feeling a little better, whatever booze helps make the corners round. Edited February 26, 2016 by Reaperman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakpack Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Yeah, the retro AVS will be mine. Ever since I made the plunge to RGB on most systems, I really haven't been able to force myself to go back to NES's composite. Anyway, as it turns out I'm sick today (yay...), but at least it means that I get to hang out at home and refresh this page for the next 8 hours. Luckily, I've got one of those 8-oz 'prosumer' popcorn makers, so I should be able to make it through okay. If my comments start getting inappropriate, I'm hopped up on dayquil, sudafed, and if I start feeling a little better, whatever booze helps make the corners round. Just remember, if you start seeing three keyboards, type with the one in the middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOW Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I've looked out my 'nearly new, hardly used' AA log-on details from back in 2013 for this - Bring on the KS 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triketra Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ooooo KS day, I'm gonna be sitting in my office all day in anticipation. Popcorn anyone? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROFLcade Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I missed out on all the fun last time - had to enjoy it retroactively. Can't wait for the fun to start today!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I missed out on all the fun last time - had to enjoy it retroactively. Can't wait for the fun to start today!! I am considering whether to start a new thread once the Kickstarter actually begins. ..Al 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROFLcade Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I am considering whether to start a new thread once the Kickstarter actually begins. ..Al Sounds like a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triketra Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I am considering whether to start a new thread once the Kickstarter actually begins. ..Al Can we get it named The Coleco Chameleon Comedy Hour - Kickstarter Edition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipercub Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) I predict were in for a very quiet day. Edited February 26, 2016 by Pipercub 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) But this prototype actually delivers exactly what it claims to be. Chameleon is well, a Chameleon. It disguises itself in something else's color. And yes, I am definitely saving up for the AVS. Been drooling since it was announced on January 1st, 2013. I know the creator of this system. When it is released, it will be awesome. I got to play it at the last PRGE. I am still hoping that the system can be on display at Cowlitz Gamers for Kids, but I am not sure it will be there. I have been patient to express my thoughts on the matter of this CC and will be doing a video in general about a more broader topic later this week. Edited February 26, 2016 by swlovinist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I am considering whether to start a new thread once the Kickstarter actually begins. ..Al Sounds like a good idea. That said, I think the crickets will remain silent today. Just a hunch. Though if it did start, I wonder how long it would take for the #of posts to come close to the thrift finds thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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