godslabrat Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 having the rights to release the games is one thing, but does the world even need these shitty games bundled on a pnp device or a multicart of em. id like to see him get the capital together on his own to make these if he thinks theres a market for it instead of shilling something this crappy on ks. of course, theres no market beyond dipshits wanting to toss their money at it. wheres anyones effort these days. seems eli learned something from mike's mistakes, lol! ...so, your complaint is that he's wanting to sell a legit product that happens to not interest you, and is using a service that was designed to gauge interest in risky, low-volume pet projects? Basically, he's selling something he totally has the right to sell, and using the Kickstarter platform for exactly what it's intended? This is a problem... Why? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D. Head Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, shawnphase! Going to pick up one of the plug n' plays, just because it is a fun idea and only $30. Yes I know the games are shitty, but thanks for looking out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This is not for me, but this is a feasible design, with a modest asking price, from a person with a proven track record. Why the hate? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Some people might not like the idea of crowdfunding to cover manufacturing costs as a kind of pre-order, but the Retro VGS campaign aimed to fund the existence of an entire company and that's completely different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Agreed. And I think it's fair play to use it to gauge the market interest for little niche projects like this. Like I said, non-quality bible games aren't my thing, but those who dig the rare bird angle are entitled to their jollies, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Some people might not like the idea of crowdfunding to cover manufacturing costs as a kind of pre-order, but the Retro VGS campaign aimed to fund the existence of an entire company and that's completely different. hahaha, thats essentially the same thing i see eli doing, funding the existence of his entire company by buying up and using shitty ip that others made that isnt worth redistributing, and definitely not for money. lets not be so quick to forget that he was more than willing to work with MK as well. just because he somehow found his way out from under the bus, thats not enough of a reason to give him a free pass on bringing total gaming abominations to market a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) thats not enough of a reason to give him a free pass on bringing total gaming abominations to market a second time.I don't think there's a free pass being given, it's still different: The RVGS was a "company" with a bunch of "industry veterans" on roster that were VP of this and that, titles that had nothing to do with what they were supposed to produce, and in the end they had zero to show in terms of hardware and IP other than the infamous molds. As far as I can tell Piko Interactive gets homebrew and older games and puts then in a cart (and other media e.g. Steam), and has done it before. Whether or not it's worth the asking price is a different matter, but I think what's on offer is very clear and realistic... unlike the RVGS. If people are willing to buy it, why is it a problem? I don't think anybody is being fooled and a 5s google search will show up AVGN videos. Edited July 19, 2016 by Newsdee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amstari Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Image the disappointed look on some kids face when they say they want a games console and the receive an Arkade from their parents. I don't think Nintendo will approve that controller design if they see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Perhaps the patent on the original NES controller, including colour scheme, has expired? Anyway, so Nintendo will sell a mini NES with 30 of the most popular games for $59, and this is a clone console with 7 of the least popular games for $45, early bird offer $30. Never before has paying twice as much to get a software bundle felt as appropriate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Image the disappointed look on some kids face when they say they want a games console and the receive an Arkade from their parents. I don't think Nintendo will approve that controller design if they see this. Heh hehOf course, that won't happen--the bible games will be sold direct, in very limited quantities, only to those who really want them. I suspect the NES Mini will be an unwanted gift for many kids though. I wonder if they'll still appreciate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I am excited for the Piko fundraiser. Imagine, for example, if someone was able to track down, acquire the IP for, and make official legitimate multicarts for Atari? I'd be interested. This is no different. If you don't want one, don't buy one. As for me, I wonder who holds the rights to Mystique/Playaround... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Gull Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I am excited for the Piko fundraiser. Imagine, for example, if someone was able to track down, acquire the IP for, and make official legitimate multicarts for Atari? I'd be interested. This is no different. If you don't want one, don't buy one. As for me, I wonder who holds the rights to Mystique/Playaround... Hmm Mystique....is it time to revisit the Erotica expo in NYC for a new toy of the year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) no. Don't panic. Theses games are for players who are still going to the church today. Edited July 19, 2016 by Serguei2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 As far as unlicensed games go, Wisdom Tree titles are decent. Sunday Funday aside, they'll stand up to some run-of-the-mill games from licensed developers. A lot of them are done a disservice by being compared to Color Dreams originals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) TBH it sounds like a pretty cool project, and best of luck with it in all sincerity, but the CC downfall was its own egosystem. ..musta been a typo. I fixed it for you. Edited July 19, 2016 by Keatah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AE35 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) no. shawnphase, there are several points here. The first one is a lesson for you! In the real world there are people, companies and countries that are exluded from scrutiny. Some people/countries can get away with stuff that others can't. But this isn't something they forced on others, this is how others chose to treat them. Let's say that Piko made an exact replica of the Retro VGS funding scheme. Same amount of money etc. Even then, you would not have a leg to stand on when calling him out. A heavier player would have to do it before you, and when the ball starts rolling, then you can get behind it. It IS a popularity contest. Not one bad word about Ben Heck, but look at forums, Twitter etc. When he tweets (or posts) something, a LOT of people want to reply/share/acknowledge whatever the statement was. That is how celebrity status works! Same mechanism as actors letting their political beliefs known - it works! People believe you if you are famous. The second point is that, the Piko Kickstarter is not comparible with MK's. Third point, I am getting sick and tired of everybody wanting money. I have listened to a BUNCH of podcasts over the years, and ever since all this crowdfunding started, half of them are trying their luck at getting money. The same goes for youtubers. I see guys making ONE video, and then saying that they need money to continue. The crowdfunding idea - while great - is turning into a way to get free money. Nobody really loses anything (other than small amounts) and one person might make a nice sum of money. So, it is like money that comes from nowhere and are just generated. /Nicholas Edited July 19, 2016 by AE35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnphase Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 again, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 how about now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 no. From that picture I can only gather that you are hinting at the fact that it's been done already so really Piko is getting money for something else instead while pitching an idea that is not even his own? Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 how about now? Maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) If you don't like a product, don't buy it. If you don't want to give money to a YouTuber, don't give money. Simple as that. If you don't like what Eli is doing with products he owns, then you may as well start writing angry letters to most of Kickstarter. Sorry, that was the best response I could come up with, as I kept getting interrupted by facepalms. Edited July 19, 2016 by PlaysWithWolves 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Second. Shawn seems to have something personal against Piko. I won't support the KS as I'm not interested, but I'll wish them the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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