toiletunes Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Retro Gamer Retro Magazine 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClassyGamer Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I'll play along too. And there's really no need for a comparison picture. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 By the way, there's an obscene amount of stock photos online of women in heels pushing cars. I'm sure it's someone's fetish. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland p Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 'The Homer' 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 "The Homer" is definitely the vibe I got from the early days of this thing, which promised it could be all things to all people, all the while refusing to listen to any outsider or professional input. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 What can it do? "Everything! This will be the ultimate retro-style console for new and old gamers alike!" Okay, what WILL it do? What are the specs? *crickets* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 If you're thinking you've heard the "Homer" talk before, you're right. This thread is eating its own tail. Kevtris brought it up first, here I still take great issue with Mike blaming John for the failings of the RVGS- because I specifically said it was going to be way too damn expensive to produce, and that they needed to cut costs. Mike was adamant that nothing should or could be cut to save money. I think he was hoping volume was going to solve their cost overrun woes. John being the engineer, was going to implement what Mike wanted. Honestly the RGVS turned into the Homer. In fact, Mike asked me how much I would pay for one and I said something like $99 and he said "I was hoping it'd been a lot more". PlaysWithWolves embellished the concept, here Just go read the whole thing, it's too good to summarize. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Even if this console had been managed by more competent and experienced people, even if a prototype had come out, even if it had been on Kickstarter and gotten funded, even if they managed to get someone to make a unique game for it....it was still doomed to fail, due to lack of games available for it and targeting a niche market. I said this over a year ago when it first came to light and I still feel that way. Kevtris is doing the right approach now, I think, with his system idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 If it was made it might have become a collectible, then 30 years later they could sell new in box versions at a premium after they were "found in a closet of a warehouse". Nevermind that it would have more likely suffered the same fate as all those famiclone systems nobody bothers with. Basically, the problem with a half-assed approach is that anybody can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland p Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 If you're thinking you've heard the "Homer" talk before, you're right. This thread is eating its own tail. Kevtris brought it up first, here PlaysWithWolves embellished the concept, here Just go read the whole thing, it's too good to summarize. Ha!, now I remember reading the post from kevtris. I missed PlayWithWolves' post though. The Chameleon clearly needs its own subforum so we can categorize things in topics The only one who can add something new to this thread is 'Mr Lee'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Retro GamerRETRO Magazine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Prototype mascot: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Or maybe ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Still a long way to 10000 posts on the thread .... so I do my part!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 It appears I have started a trend. A silly trend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 It appears I have started a trend. A silly trend. Don't feel bad, some people did far worse, for example, my name is on the first post !!! Talking about silly things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Prototype mascot: WP_20160319_10_29_52_Pro.jpg 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I'm sorry to see yet another innocent who got thrown under the bus! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I'm sorry to see yet another innocent who got thrown under the bus! Yep, he right fucked that one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernex Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Even if this console had been managed by more competent and experienced people, even if a prototype had come out, even if it had been on Kickstarter and gotten funded, even if they managed to get someone to make a unique game for it....it was still doomed to fail, due to lack of games available for it and targeting a niche market. I said this over a year ago when it first came to light and I still feel that way. Kevtris is doing the right approach now, I think, with his system idea. I think niche market is putting up VERY nicely. I think the main issue is that no one asked for what the VGS/Chamaleon was "supposed" to deliver. It was all based on the nostalgic belief that cartridges didn't have bugs. From a simple DESIGN perspective, the think was flawed and dead on the water. Sure, if someone have had any brains and go "Oh right, and it will also come with an usb port so you can download updates and keep your cartridge bug free and updated" well sure, FINE, that would've been less dumb. But they didn't. So it was very dumb. And then it became a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipercub Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Apparently MK made a positive spin press release about what we dropped the bomb on months ago, he is doing an all interview issue of RETRO mag. Clearly he has crapped on all available writers and can't get new ones. Wonder how many of those contacts for interviews came from the RetroGamingRoundup address book? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Oh wow, I can just imagine the softball questions he had his "staff" ask him... "Mr. Kennedy, sir, how did you discover the fake prototype?" "Well, I had no choice but to tear open that console, and confront the nefarious Mr. Lee! I knew the hopes and dreams of every gamer in Retroland were riding on my shoulders, so I grabbed my screwdriver and did what had to be done. And as I opened it up and looked in horror at that SNEZ board, a shot rang out , and I screamed 'LOOK OUT, MISTER OBAMA!' and pushed the president out of the way as my Atari shirt was shredded in a hail of bullets. All this will be shown in amazing detail in my special Coleco Retrospective compilation, which you can support on Kickstarter now..." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Oh wow, I can just imagine the softball questions he had his "staff" ask him... "Mr. Kennedy, sir, how did you discover the fake prototype?" "Well, I had no choice but to tear open that console, and confront the nefarious Mr. Lee! I knew the hopes and dreams of every gamer in Retroland were riding on my shoulders, so I grabbed my screwdriver and did what had to be done. And as I opened it up and looked in horror at that SNEZ board, a shot rang out , and I screamed 'LOOK OUT, MISTER OBAMA!' and pushed the president out of the way as my Atari shirt was shredded in a hail of bullets. All this will be shown in amazing detail in my special Coleco Retrospective compilation, which you can support on Kickstarter now..." But, he never opened it, gave it back to Sean, and believed him. I was left in a terrible spot at this point and I had a decision to make that evening at the hotel. Do I take this thing apart and see what was in it and quit the show or continue on with the show, demoing the games that were going to be on the system, and then address this issue with Sean when we got back from New York. Right or wrong, I continued on with Toy Fair... When I returned back home, I met Sean again and gave him the “prototype” back and he was still swearing that despite the SNES “parts” he used, the games were still running on the SNES FPGA software that he had constructed in a few short months. Again, I believed him and we moved forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 But, he never opened it, gave it back to Sean, and believed him. The important thing is, what story does Mike want to tell today? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 The important thing is, what story does Mike want to tell today? Well "Have you played Atari today?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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