AtariBrian Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I just want every homebrew to be thoroughly tested, polished, and made as good as it can possibly be -- and then, a little bit better than that -- before it ships. When I start reading on a regular basis about major bugs and missing features in homebrews for any system, I get grumpy. That's the only rush I'm concerned about. Two games a year that ship with major bugs is two too many; ten games that ship with terrific gameplay and complete polish is exactly the right number. And rigorous testing doesn't have to take forever -- it can be done on a tight timeline, as Piggy Bank proves. Yeah alot of Colecovision and an Intellivision brew or two have bugs of some sort or other issues sadly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Amen to that. Squash those bugs and polish 'em up more first, I can wait. I just want every homebrew to be thoroughly tested, polished, and made as good as it can possibly be -- and then, a little bit better than that -- before it ships. When I start reading on a regular basis about major bugs and missing features in homebrews for any system, I get grumpy. That's the only rush I'm concerned about. Two games a year that ship with major bugs is two too many; ten games that ship with terrific gameplay and complete polish is exactly the right number. And rigorous testing doesn't have to take forever -- it can be done on a tight timeline, as Piggy Bank proves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 On who? Rev or CMart? Personally I'd ignore CMart, he is from Vancouver. Lol! Go Canucks! Oilers suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 cmart is also a customer. So what happens when he's right (because he's a customer), but he disagrees with you? Is it just barely possible that there could be two customers, who have entirely different opinions on release schedules? Could they both be right? Nah. That'd lead to dogs and cats living together. I like both puppies and kitties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I just want every homebrew to be thoroughly tested, polished, and made as good as it can possibly be -- and then, a little bit better than that -- before it ships. When I start reading on a regular basis about major bugs and missing features in homebrews for any system, I get grumpy. Completely agree. That's the only rush I'm concerned about. Two games a year that ship with major bugs is two too many; ten games that ship with terrific gameplay and complete polish is exactly the right number. And rigorous testing doesn't have to take forever -- it can be done on a tight timeline, as Piggy Bank proves. Piggy Bank may be considered an exception because the testing was concentrated in such a short time that momentum could be kept alongside development. The problem many home-brews have, as a labour of love, is that the time-scales may be much more sparse. This leads to premature testing efforts, in which testers run the risk of losing steam by the time the game finally is ready for shipping. Consequently, bugs can slip through unnoticed. This happened particularly on my game, where beta-testing started almost a year before the game was ready. It was great in that a small set of volunteers provided feedback that resulted in shaping the final game-play. However, the bad side of it was that, by the time everything was put together (almost a year later), going through the motions of play-testing the entire game over and over, felt more like a mechanical chore, and even I myself fell into a rut that blinded me from potential issues. Not to mention that most volunteers were not able to sustain their attention or commitments for so long, reducing the testing surface. Yeah alot of Colecovision and an Intellivision brew or two have bugs of some sort or other issues sadly . Also consider that proper testing -- a specialised discipline in itself -- may not be widely available to the home-brew community, and that the efforts may not be as rigorous and as systematic as expected in commercial software. Such are the limitations of a niche community requesting commitments from volunteers. I agree that games should be properly tested before release, but I also understand that the efforts may not be perfect. -dZ. Edited May 15, 2016 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Lol! Go Canucks! Oilers suck! Good thing you saved all that money in order to buy Canuck playoff tickets this spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I like both puppies and kitties. So do several Chinese restaurants in Vancouver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Yeah alot of Colecovision and an Intellivision brew or two have bugs of some sort or other issues sadly . Some examples? Are they game breaking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Yep. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Brian stop. Its not funny. We need LESS homebrew games and SLOWER! How about more slower games, say at 5 frames/second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric7100 Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 When this group was younger..... Multiple releases were no problem. That's because the releases were slower-paced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm in Inhellivision. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm in Inhellivision. Eric is watching and laughing at us all for taking the bait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Lol! Go Canucks! Oilers suck! Go Leafs Raptors! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm in Inhellivision. \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 When this group was younger..... Multiple releases were no problem. Oysters for everyone! That's because the releases were slower-paced. Hey, you're brave to admit that, though it's unusual to develop that problem later in life. Still, if you're having a problem with releases that are too fast-paced, try thinking about Winston Churchill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Good thing you saved all that money in order to buy Canuck playoff tickets this spring At least fans in Vancouver got to go to playoff games in the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Time spent collecting for Intellivision stands outside of normal time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Time spent collecting for Intellivision stands outside of normal time. True fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 At least fans in Vancouver got to go to playoff games in the last decade. ...add the number of times Vancouver has won the cup and subtract the number of riots you have had for losing. I'll do the same for Edmonton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 ...add the number of times Vancouver has won the cup and subtract the number of riots you have had for losing. I'll do the same for Edmonton... Lol! Well played Peter Pocklington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Go Golden State Warriors.... At least fans in Vancouver got to go to playoff games in the last decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric7100 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Eric is watching and laughing at us all for taking the bait. Nothing to laugh at here. This is serious stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+the1hatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Go Golden State Warriors.... Golden isn't a state, silly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Go Golden State Warriors.... Go California Golden Seals! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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