Matej Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Nope XEP emulation or that 6502 18MHz will pe pure ATARI! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3644288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmilo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Matej, If we're going this far, I'm not sure why the atari is really needed anymore - why not just turn the STM32 into a home computer? Which I had been thinking about, something like a real hardware pico8. Not with STM but already done with 1GHz Arm https://getchip.com/pages/pocketchip Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3644870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Yeah, I'd seen those, and almost bought one, but the horrible keyboard put me off! I do like the idea of Pico8 - it seems like a good way to recreate the spirit of programming we had in the 80's with home computers. This is in my thoughts at the moment because I'd like to have some way for my son (currently age 6) to learn programming by writing simple games like I did when I was a boy. The UnoCart ATR support was added with that in mind. Robin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3644872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I think ideal will keep UNOcart ATARI (SD - cartridge latter turbo - 6502 instructions or use ARM instructions like on 2600). And what you can do is UNOboy with normal keyboard, dpad, fire buttons. There was more fantasy consoles not only commercial Pico-8. Pico-8 is successful due Kickstarter that doesnt mean that there are no alternatives... Bytepusher http://esolangs.org/wiki/BytePusher DigitalMZX http://vault.digitalmzx.net/index.php Mega Chip 8 / Hires Chip 8 https://web.archive.org/web/20131030034311/http://www.chip8.com/ https://github.com/Ready4Next/Mega8 Edited December 6, 2016 by Matej Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3644897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmilo Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I do like the idea of Pico8 - it seems like a good way to recreate the spirit of programming we had in the 80's with home computers. This is in my thoughts at the moment because I'd like to have some way for my son (currently age 6) to learn programming by writing simple games like I did when I was a boy. Exactly my thoughts except I have a daughter and she's only 2 years old, so I have plenty of time to get ready when that stuff becomes potentially interesting to her and her siblings hopefully. I like Pico8 a loooooot and that's why I've started Agd project (Atari game designer http://atariage.com/forums/topic/245864-agd-atari-game-designer-development ). Was focused on other stuff recently but plan is to make Pico8 equivalent on 8bit Atari. PC version first was the idea (that would produce Atari binaries), but lately it seems to me that native A8 version would be a better way to go. Maybe even STM powered cartridge that would work as development platform ? Hmmmmm....... 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3645555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I am also in for a cased one 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3646293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Hi all, A little update on the ATR functionality... I've now got an Atari 1050 disk drive and yesterday I managed to read some of my old floppies, one of which had various BASIC games and other bits and pieces I'd written as a boy. I decided to back up my teenage creations to SD card, so I booted an ATR from the UnoCart, with the 1050 attached by SIO (and the drive's switches set as drive 2). Then I successfully copied (using DOS 2.5 copy command) the programs from the real floppy over to the ATR mounted from the UnoCart SD card. I know this kind of stuff is possible using SIO2PC or SIO2SD, but it was nice to do it with hardware I'd designed myself, and it also demonstrates that FlashJazzCat's modified OS on the cart plays nicely with external SIO devices. Robin Edited December 13, 2016 by electrotrains 14 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3649771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1NG Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Awesome project! I am also in for a cased one Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3657823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender II Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'll take 2 cased. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3657899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemiel Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Got it today. It is so small. Looks nice. Printed manual in box. It is time to find spare MicroSD and spare time. Have to find way to create empty ATRs from Atari. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3658886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentarian Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Got mine this afternoon. I'm off to buy a miniSD card and will test it tonight. Yes, the ability to create blank ATR's directly on the UnoCart would be a great feature. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3659088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues76 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 i will take two cases please Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3659112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1013 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I'll take 2 cased please. Thank you and recards. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3659144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My cart arrived on time for christmas and works fine. THANKS An idea for enhancement: SInce there are carts which work only on OS-A or OS-B it would be nice to have them run on XL or XE by pushing an OS image to the XL/XE-RAM under the OS before starting the cart. This would be similar to the ATR-loading of the cart. Does this work? One of the currently unused bytes of the CAR-header could be used as a flag for the UnoCart to decide this automatically. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3659338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I got mine in the mail today works great lots of fun to begin.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3660527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olix Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I would like to buy one cased one. Is this still possible? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3661714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 I would like to buy one cased one. Is this still possible? I'll be making another batch early in the new year. Robin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3661803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'll be making another batch early in the new year. Robin Cool, can't wait to order my two Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3661837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Hi all, A little update on the ATR functionality... I know this kind of stuff is possible using SIO2PC or SIO2SD, but it was nice to do it with hardware I'd designed myself, and it also demonstrates that FlashJazzCat's modified OS on the cart plays nicely with external SIO devices. Robin Just wondering it we could get reverse basic function added to this modified OS. Not all bootable atr's are basic related and need the option key pressed. Much more since able to have option key for those few bootable floppies that require basic enabled. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3667226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olix Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'll be making another batch early in the new year. Robin Great! Do you notice my preorder or do I need to write a new message later? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3667253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'll work through the people in this thread in order, so no need to write a new message. Robin Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3667269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I've been playing around with mine for a little while now, and I really like it The small size even with the cart shell is very nice. But of course there are just a few things I would like to see changed. When using the arrow keys in the menu, on a TK-II it requires holding down CTRL because TK defaults to CTRL+Arrow sends. We went through something similar with the U1MB and Side Loader until FJC changed it to recognize arrows with or without the CTRL key pressed. Perhaps this can be implemented for the UNO menu as well??? Not sure if this is implemented (forgot to check it, but I will tomorrow), utilize TK-II's Page-Up (1200XL Shift+F1) and Page-Down (1200XL Shift+F2) keys to quickly step through long file lists. Just wondering it we could get reverse basic function added to this modified OS. Not all bootable atr's are basic related and need the option key pressed. Much more since able to have option key for those few bootable floppies that require basic enabled. I agree with what Roy is saying here. - Michael P.S. Great job Robin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3668648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Michael, Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated. It's good to know it's working well on NTSC machines, since I'd mainly tested on PAL. What type of machine did you try it on? Did you try it on a U1MB fitted machine? As far as the reversing the OPTION key behaviour goes, I'd like to leave it as is in the firmware - however I will ask flashjazzcat to do a version of the OS that inverts the behaviour, and you (& Roy) can place that on the SD card and it will override the built in OS version. One of us will post it on this thread shortly. I'll take a look at the firmware in the next few days, and get it so it supports CTRL + arrows too (but you'll need to flash a new firmware for this). Remember you can use ESC to quickly search the whole SD card - that's the best way to navigate to something on the card, assuming you know roughly what the filename is. It will match any part of the filename, not just from the start (though matches from the start will appear first in the results). regards, Robin 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3668687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Michael, Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated. It's good to know it's working well on NTSC machines, since I'd mainly tested on PAL. What type of machine did you try it on? Did you try it on a U1MB fitted machine? As far as the reversing the OPTION key behaviour goes, I'd like to leave it as is in the firmware - however I will ask flashjazzcat to do a version of the OS that inverts the behaviour, and you (& Roy) can place that on the SD card and it will override the built in OS version. One of us will post it on this thread shortly. I'll take a look at the firmware in the next few days, and get it so it supports CTRL + arrows too (but you'll need to flash a new firmware for this). Remember you can use ESC to quickly search the whole SD card - that's the best way to navigate to something on the card, assuming you know roughly what the filename is. It will match any part of the filename, not just from the start (though matches from the start will appear first in the results). regards, Robin Yes the system I am testing on is both NTSC and has a U1MB installed with the latest firmware. So will there be a way to update firmware on the UNO without the need for a programmer, using something like Uflash? - Michael Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3668953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EamonShoot Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I would like to preorder two of these cased please. Many thanks. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/257488-racing-the-atari-bus-with-a-stm32f4-microcontroller/page/3/#findComment-3668967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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