Atariboy2600 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Thanks for liking my art, I done alot of Pac-Man art from the day that game came out it's only when I have a PC to do more art on Photoshop, later Gimp and now Clip Studio Pro. here some of the old art you may already knew about in case other done remember. Again I love everything Pac-Man even on the old 2600 from 82. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I get so inspired seeing all the creativity in this thread. Wow 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Bob, Create a var called something like next_chrbase. You should keep it loaded with the character set base address needed at the NEXT dli. The first thing you do when you enter the dli is to transfer this value to chrbase. Then update it with the address needed at the next dli. Ok - I get that. I guess I thought the loop was tight enough that there must have been something else wrong... Thank you, I will try this. Obviously there are still quite a few things I don't completely understand about the 7800. Wow, fantastic! Bob, you're amazingly fast! I hope you can solve the problem of those 2-scanlines. Meanwhile, I have prepared a graphical update for you, it is really cleaner and accurate (mock-up below). About the score, if you still have Maria / CPU time, maybe you could try to increase the vertical resolution of others 8 lines (for example, 7800 Water Ski and Tank Command both have the total height at 224 lines). Again, thanks so much Bob! Baby Pac-Man 7800 _160A mode_ 160 x 224 _ V2.PNG Baby Pac-Man 7800 _160A mode_ 160 x 224 _grid V2.PNG Thank you, Marco... Although most of those changes (the 'gloves' on Blinky, the three 'blocks' above the drop down targets, and the color of the trapped ball path at the top) I wont have the extra colors for, so I'll have to leave them out. I can do the updated Mr. and Ms. Pac at the bottom though. Thank you again... EDIT - @Marco: I had to move Mr. and Ms. Pac-Man outward a little. I couldn't have their colors in the same tile as the playfield. EDIT2 - @tep392: I tried that, and it got rid of one of the two scan lines of garbage. I'll play with it a little... Thanks again. Edited June 9, 2018 by PacManPlus 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Ok - aside from the two edits above, I tried it on the real thing. The singe lines of garbage do not appear on the real thing (at least on my unit). Maybe it's a MESS emulation issue. Both Prosystem and the real thing don't show this issue. I'm going to go ahead and start the color tuning. Also, the score will definitely not fit on the screen. On my TV, the pinball field covers from the very top of the screen to the bottom. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Really, thanks Bob. P.S.Other tweaks on this latest v.2 update (perhaps less easy to spot) you can see them in this GIF: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd-w Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) The bad news: I'm changing the character base for each zone (I'm using three sets of characters for the pinball section). When it switches between sets, I'm getting 2-scanlines of garbage, as you can see here. I don't know why; the DLI is pretty tight as you can see below. Any suggestions? I don't know how to solve the problem, but here is a slightly tighter version of your code: DLI_PB: LDX DLIFLG ; Load in X register so we can use INX later BMI DLITOP_PB CPX #LASTPBZONE-2 BMI DLIMID_PB DLIBOT_PB: ; Move code up here to save a JMP LDA #$FF STA DLIFLG INC RTLOCAL+1 BNE DLICONT_PB INC RTLOCAL DLICONT_PB: JSR RAND JSR TUNER JSR LOADER JMP DLIOUT_PB DLITOP_PB: LDA #GRAPH160ON STA CTRL DLIMID_PB: INX ; Use INX/STX instead of INC/LDA LDA PBCHRBASE,X STA CHRBASE STX DLIFLG ; Do the STX after so that the write to CHRBASE happens earlier DLIOUT_PB: PLA TAY PLA TAX PLA RTI Edited June 10, 2018 by cd-w 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Another optimization is to not push the yreg on the stack until you need to. No need to save it for mid screen dli's. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Bob.... My jaw is on the floor in awe of your love of the 7800 and your great coding! I love you man! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari PAC-MAN Fan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Can someone help me get my jaw off of the floor? This is too amazing to take in all at once! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) My jaw went right through the floor, the basement, and 6 layers of magma! Literally just stumbled on the thread. Was so cool to read it page and page, and see Bob's progress and everyone's thoughts and even help. Never thought this was possible. Can't wait to see the pinball in action. Only advice I have is to go for gameplay over reproduction of the layout/artwork accuracy. I mean, back then that's what the actual programmers would have done. Edited June 10, 2018 by Greg2600 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 God of War meets the Pac-Man cartoon, interesting crossover to say the least. (RIP Marty Ingels and John Stephenson.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I wonder if this is on the roadmap ... ?(ducks) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I wonder if this is on the roadmap ... ? (ducks) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-dT8NJRdo Well if Pac-Land is next I know Dauber wants Professor Pac-Man. [emoji12] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Hi there, I don't know how to solve the problem, but here is a slightly tighter version of your code:I like this. Bob, I don't see where you are pushing registers to the stack but I see you're popping values off before the RTI. This may not be your issue but you do want to make sure you're not overwriting register values. I'd also suggest using BCC or BCS after a compare instead of BMI or BPL. The value in the accumulator could affect the N register value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Update required... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Thanks for liking my art, I done alot of Pac-Man art from the day that game came out it's only when I have a PC to do more art on Photoshop, later Gimp and now Clip Studio Pro. here some of the old art you may already knew about in case other done remember. Again I love everything Pac-Man even on the old 2600 from 82. While we are posting arts, I have this to share... https://kosmic-stardust.deviantart.com/art/Pacman-3D-730146093 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I wonder if this is on the roadmap ... ? (ducks) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-dT8NJRdo Neato. But I already have Pacland on Lynx, TG-16, and Famicom. I have Baby Pacman on zero platforms. Let Bob help a brother out! I need this game... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 ... and * final * v.4 : 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 At least the second one doesn't have Inky with his hand in his sheet like when I made up this cartoon a while ago. Stop bringing me into this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Hi guys - thanks for the kind words, as always. Hi there,I like this.Bob, I don't see where you are pushing registers to the stack but I see you're popping values off before the RTI. This may not be your issue but you do want to make sure you're not overwriting register values.I'd also suggest using BCC or BCS after a compare instead of BMI or BPL. The value in the accumulator could affect the N register value. I'm actually pushing the registers to the stack in the 'standard' DLI. I then immediately check for the pinball section, and if it's active, I jump here. Thank you so much, Dennis... Bob.... My jaw is on the floor in awe of your love of the 7800 and your great coding! I love you man! Thanks Curt - I know we talked about Baby Pac-Man quite a while ago, but I couldn't get into it until now. I'm set on finishing it. And, I'm hoping to bring it and ReZolve to the games shows in October / November. Although, I hope I find a job first. That will determine if I go anywhere. Thanks guys. I'm currently working on the pinball colors, and then I'll work on those beautiful flippers that Marco made. I think I'm going to use character mode for them instead of a sprite. Bob Edited June 12, 2018 by PacManPlus 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Would the flippers look better (more realistic) with a thicker red border perhaps? Everything looks great by the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+x=usr(1536) Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Would the flippers look better (more realistic) with a thicker red border perhaps? Everything looks great by the way. I'd like to see a mockup with this suggestion - it sounds really good, but I'm not sure that it would look quite right with the resolutions that the 7800 can achieve. Then again, it's hard to say without seeing it. This is really shaping up nicely, by the way. If it comes out in cartridge form, I'm a buyer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Would the flippers look better (more realistic) with a thicker red border perhaps? Everything looks great by the way. Thank you for your suggestion. I think it makes the low resolution more evident, however I have to try the animation with a GIF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Thanks for the mockup. I can clearly see your concerns with that, it really accentuates the tip in how it looks chopped (baby pacman circumcision) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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