+x=usr(1536) Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Watching the video, this really is shaping up nicely. You've put some excellent work into the game. One thing I noticed: the video shows it playing on video only, arcade AI. Which arcade game (and, if possible, version) is the AI based on? Grouping the ghosts seems very easy, which is why I'm curious. Used to own a Baby Pac-Man. Love the game, but it was much harder than those options allowed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I remember at some pizza place such as a Showbiz Pizza had a BPM arcade. It was confusing as I didn't know what mode it was in-the arcade screen or the pinball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I was just joking, I have no idea what Baby Pac-Man cart you guys are looking at. He might not have this up yet but he pirates tons of all of our works all the time. Any code that has been posted here on AtariAge you bet your ass he's copied and sold it on ebay and will keep doing so without remorse. I've tried in the past to get fake copies of games by Walter, Bob, Ken(rip), Matthias and myself to be taken down in every way possible but nothing ever received any action. and he's selling pirate copies of games for $40 and $50 (sometimes more) that the "real" ones where only ever sold for $20 or $30 for God's sake EDIT: He even has the balls to print AtariAge on some of the labels. Albert and I talked about it. Dude tried to say it was just a "replacement label" which was proven as total BS after he's sold 5 of them that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 ...Love the game, but it was much harder than those options allowed! Nice job, Trebor - although it's amazing the difference there will be once I make them reverse direction at will like the arcade does... As Bob stated above, there is no reverse direction at will of the monsters yet. The vid only mode shown automatically fills in all the energizers at the start of the game/maze, instead of needing to earn them on the pinball playfield. The final/full Arcade game experience will include the monsters reversing direction at will and the need to earn energizers. A much harder game, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) He might not have this up yet but he pirates tons of all of our works all the time. Any code that has been posted here on AtariAge you bet your ass he's copied and sold it on ebay and will keep doing so without remorse. I've tried in the past to get fake copies of games by Walter, Bob, Ken(rip), Matthias and myself to be taken down in every way possible but nothing ever received any action. and he's selling pirate copies of games for $40 and $50 (sometimes more) that the "real" ones where only ever sold for $20 or $30 for God's sake EDIT: He even has the balls to print AtariAge on some of the labels. Albert and I talked about it. Dude tried to say it was just a "replacement label" which was proven as total BS after he's sold 5 of them that way. Yep, I've already had my run-ins with him and asked him to take down the games I have done. Watching the video, this really is shaping up nicely. You've put some excellent work into the game. One thing I noticed: the video shows it playing on video only, arcade AI. Which arcade game (and, if possible, version) is the AI based on? Grouping the ghosts seems very easy, which is why I'm curious. Used to own a Baby Pac-Man. Love the game, but it was much harder than those options allowed! 'Arcade' AI is the monsters' acting like they do in the arcade game Baby Pac-Man - they all target you, and can reverse direction at will (implemented soon). 'Classic' AI is the monsters' acting like the other Pac-Variant games (i.e. Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, etc.) Red = Blinky, Green = Pinky, Aqua = Inky, and Yellow = Clyde. Do your MCP carts don't work anymore? I'll send you a new one. Actually, I do still have them... I just can't remember how to use them I need to find the thread where you explain it... My 7800 is actually on the other end of the house with the TV... I need to put a laptop in there... Thank you again for those, BTW... Thanks guys! Edited May 19, 2018 by PacManPlus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Ok - got the divide by 6 figured out, and it looks like that WAS the slowdown issue. I made it a table read instead of computing it. Much faster. Next Version attached here. There should be no slowdown. @groundtrooper: I may come back to Defender, but once this is finished I'd like to get back to "ReZolve" or "Adventure III: The Race for The Chalice" first. Thanks guys- Hi Bob Adventure 3 Amazing.....i could help with lots of ideas Just keep me informed......Adventure 3 will be the best 7800 game ever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 He might not have this up yet but he pirates tons of all of our works all the time. Any code that has been posted here on AtariAge you bet your ass he's copied and sold it on ebay and will keep doing so without remorse. I've tried in the past to get fake copies of games by Walter, Bob, Ken(rip), Matthias and myself to be taken down in every way possible but nothing ever received any action. and he's selling pirate copies of games for $40 and $50 (sometimes more) that the "real" ones where only ever sold for $20 or $30 for God's sake EDIT: He even has the balls to print AtariAge on some of the labels. Albert and I talked about it. Dude tried to say it was just a "replacement label" which was proven as total BS after he's sold 5 of them that way. I bought a Touchdown Challenge from him because I stupidly just assumed it was ok'ed by Atarius Maximus. I went to compliment Atarius on the game in the programmer forum and he was surprised/upset to see someone was selling it. I don't think the game was ever mentioned here outside the programming forum so Voltman sure looks all over for things to pirate. Also, Touchdown Challenge is an awesome game you all should try (even though I feel kinda dirty when I look at my cart--Atarius wouldn't even take 20$ from me, good dude). Back on topic, as always, Bob is killing it. I'm not even a big Pac fan but this looks awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Another seller that sells pirate homebrew games is 2coolspirit on ebay . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Another seller that sells pirate homebrew games is 2coolspirit on ebay . He has been buying all the AtariAge games from me, so those are not pirated. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Oh ok good . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I bought a Touchdown Challenge from him because I stupidly just assumed it was ok'ed by Atarius Maximus. I went to compliment Atarius on the game in the programmer forum and he was surprised/upset to see someone was selling it. I don't think the game was ever mentioned here outside the programming forum so Voltman sure looks all over for things to pirate. Also, Touchdown Challenge is an awesome game you all should try (even though I feel kinda dirty when I look at my cart--Atarius wouldn't even take 20$ from me, good dude). Back on topic, as always, Bob is killing it. I'm not even a big Pac fan but this looks awesome. I never buy any homebrews from ebay. Always buy from atariage or the developers on atariage that way you know it is legit. I check out programming forum and the main 7800 forum. The hacks section has tons of stuff too that people make like the 70 different pac man hacks. You have to give Bob lots of credit for putting up roms for people to try out and test. Lots of programmers do not do that for fear of everyone making money off their work and selling copies. I think for the most part people are decent enough to respect the programmers and buy the games from a legit source. A suggestion to anyone when they see any homebrew game for any system before buying is to reasearch the game and buy from the rightfull owner not some con C$%T. OT: This game so far looks arcade accurate to me. The graphics look amazing! That 320 mode kicks ass! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I never buy any homebrews from ebay. Always buy from atariage or the developers on atariage that way you know it is legit. I check out programming forum and the main 7800 forum. The hacks section has tons of stuff too that people make like the 70 different pac man hacks. Since buying Touchdown Challenge, whenever that is an option, that is what I do, I always like to support the store anyway even if it costs me a few bucks more. With things where it isn't an option (limited run games from here mainly where if you missed the thread, you basically missed out, maybe forever), I now at least check the provenance first. I'm still hoping someone sells off one of those first 7800 30th anniversary carts someday.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Since buying Touchdown Challenge, whenever that is an option, that is what I do, I always like to support the store anyway even if it costs me a few bucks more. With things where it isn't an option (limited run games from here mainly where if you missed the thread, you basically missed out, maybe forever), I now at least check the provenance first. I'm still hoping someone sells off one of those first 7800 30th anniversary carts someday.... You and I both. I have #2. I just need numero UNO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) You and I both. I have #2. I just need numero UNO. This makes three of us looking out for the 1st cart. But i won't be missing out on the Baby Pac-Man cart. Edited May 19, 2018 by sramirez2008 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Hi Bob finally found time to check it out....great game,like all your games,but it is damn heavy to play without energy dots.So i wait for the PINBALL greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 This makes three of us looking out for the 1st cart. But i won't be missing out on the Baby Pac-Man cart. 30th Anniversary Multicart2.jpg Sorry....wrong place....here is Baby Pac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Actually, I do still have them... I just can't remember how to use them I need to find the thread where you explain it... My 7800 is actually on the other end of the house with the TV... I need to put a laptop in there... Thank you again for those, BTW... Thanks guys! Are you kidding me? I implemented the whole command line interface just for you, so you can do a batch file to assemble and run immediately, it even has delta mode, so when you change only a few lines of code, it will only upload sections of the ROM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 AH! That's right!!! ok, it's coming back to me now. Ok, I NEED to put a laptop in that room... *Goes to load Windows 7 on an old HP DV7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Made some changes: - All video portion sounds are added/changed. Some may not be as close as they should be, but I like them. Still need the intro tune though. - Added a delay before each maze - Fixed a bug where if the 2nd player advances, the 1st player was getting the new dot formation. Yuck. - Added a '2' life option, like the arcade game. - Implemented all options, except the 'Pinball Only' (obviously) - Added a little arrow flashing by the score to designate which player is playing. - A few other little bug fixes/optimizations. - The 'Classic' Monster AI is implemented: Red-Blinky, Green-Pinky, Aqua-Inky, Yellow-Clyde. I'm getting close to the point where I need to start working on the pinball section. I have 20K of space for it. Was going through the manual... my God there are a lot of 'rules' to the pinball part. This is going to be challenging to say the least. Although you won't see it yet, I've implemented the tunnel speed for the player. The only problem is moving at the higher speeds makes the player pass right by a monster if it is in the tunnel. This is because I am moving at multiple pixels per frame. Need to figure out how to still check all places between each movement. Trebor, time for another video (j/k) Bob BabyPac.A78 BabyPac.BIN 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 ...Trebor, time for another video (j/k) Bob FTFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM8YKU51KrM 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 You know... I get the sneaking suspicion this is going to be a game that'll make people want to purchase a 7800 if they don't already have one. A true system seller. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeguychicago Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 This will be an instant buy for me with box when it becomes available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I had no idea there was a short 'Pacscaltor' intermission cartoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Ok, I skimmed the thread, so scream at me if I missed it - but how would the pinball part of this game work on a 7800? I saw from the video you can turn it off - which is cool, but is there some kind of plan to actually implement the pinball parts? because COOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdrive Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) The game is looking so good will be a buy for me for sure. I was wondering how is the pinball part going will it use the two fire buttons for the flippers? Edited May 23, 2018 by maxdrive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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