miker Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Hmmm, the unpacked (?) length of Time Pilot is approx. 28kbytes, so it should fit on a 32k cart. easily. Packed the A8 file with Exomizer and got somewhat more than 17,000 bytes, so it does not seem to fit on a 16k cart in packed form... <snip> Please don't confuse file length with amount of memory required to run/play the game. Also, the less memory is "dynamic" (changeable during gameplay) the more possibility to make 5200 version true. Edited May 21, 2018 by miker 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4031725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Sweet fucking jeebus. This is beautiful! Where can I send the beer and hugs? -Thom 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4031734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo/ng Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 We have updated binaries/sources and also added alternative NTSC (for older CRT) version. Whats new: - dynamic sound fix for NTSC (music is fixed but keep FXs at 60 frames - to avoid bad FXs with frame skipping) - alternative NTSC version (more empty lines top/bottom screen; different antic mode for score/progress bar). Playfield size is the same in all versions (nothing is cut). Main binary is for PAL/NTSC and if your old TV cant show all lines - use alternative version. Downloads: PAL/NTSC: http://timepilot.atari.pl/download/tpilot.xex NTSC alternative: http://timepilot.atari.pl/download/tpilotn.xex It was last patch for the game and the project is sealed now (also because of cartridge production). Nir Dary will post more info about cartridges soon. 18 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s_Atari_Guy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just tried the update above, and running on real hardware it's amazing. Where were you back in the early 80s ? lol. This would have been amazing if it had been released on the US Gold label. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollett Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just tried the new NTSC binary in Altirra set to normal overscan and yes the main game screen is fully visible now, but your title screen crops off the the top line of text a bit. Not sure if the same is true on real hardware. Bob Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollett Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just one other note and you've probably already noticed/investigated this, but I noticed in Altirra that the last black scan line of the score board area at the top kind of fluctuates in length on the right side of the screen as if there's a mistimed dli. Doesn't take away from game play just looks visually a bit odd. Bob Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollett Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Sorry a third observations, when the clouds are scrolling off the left edge of the screen. Just as they move out of view, sometimes a square chunk of cloud becomes visible on the screen again and then quickly disappears. Again only tested in Altirra, no real hardware here. Bob Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s_Atari_Guy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Did a quick knock-up of a 80's style Atari Disk. 7 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwilove Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I'm having problems saving this file in it's correct 'type'. What should I save it as - so as to be able to run it? Harvey Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I'm having problems saving this file in it's correct 'type'. What should I save it as - so as to be able to run it? Harvey save as an XEX file. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slx Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Looks great! Thanks for this port! We have updated binaries/sources and also added alternative NTSC (for older CRT) version. It was last patch for the game and the project is sealed now (also because of cartridge production). Nir Dary will post more info about cartridges soon. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilheim Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Fantastic release!!! As a humble contribution, for those who want a cassette version, I attached an small conversion I did recently. It uses a loader with a game to play during the loading process. Hope you like it! time_pilot.rar 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I bristled a little when I read the title at the web link. "Arcade Perfect". Then I played it. Sweet baby Jesus, this game is astonishing for being on an eight-bit. Well-freaking-done. Edited May 24, 2018 by pixelmischief 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwilove Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 save as an XEX file. A bit of brain freeze on my part. It was save as HTML only - then rename that to a XEX extension. Harvey Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Nut Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just tried the new NTSC binary in Altirra set to normal overscan and yes the main game screen is fully visible now, but your title screen crops off the the top line of text a bit. Not sure if the same is true on real hardware. Bob I'm not seeing any difference in Altirra with the alternate NTSC version. The title text is still cut and Altirra errors and suggests switching to PAL mode. Once in PAL mode it displays correctly but it still doesn't display correctly in NTSC. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Both NTSC versions display correctly on my NTSC 800XL and 720p lcd TV. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4033950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 25 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Just an awesome piece of work - this is a great conversion... sTeVE Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 So who would have had the home computer rights to Time Pilot? It seems the Konami games were published by a whole bunch of different companies. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Wiki article says only Coleco, 2600 and MSX got ports. MSX version seems to be by Konami themselves with the others by Coleco. C64 and BBC had seperate unrelated "Space Pilot" clones. "Fury" on CoCo. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 As expected, the 2600 version is no Time Pilot. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 As expected, the 2600 version is no Time Pilot. I think it does a reasonably good job for the time. IMHO none of the Coleco 2600 games were particularly good (although Venture is pretty decent). I have a funny Time Pilot story. When I was a kid I loved Time Pilot as they had it at the local store and I played it whenever I could, so of course I wanted it for the 2600. Going to the store I didn't see it, but I did see another game with planes on the cover and bought that one instead thinking it was probably close (using 6 year old logic). That game was Sky Diver. Not even remotely close, but I oddly enough I really ended up enjoying it and have a soft spot for it to this day (although I liked to watch the guys splat more than land IIRC). It wasn't until I got into the collecting hobby in the 90's that even discovered that there even was a 2600 port of Time Pilot. I probably would have like it just a well back in the day, but I'm still not sorry I got Sky Diver instead. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'm totally in for a CIB with the retro brown cart. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I think it does a reasonably good job for the time. IMHO none of the Coleco 2600 games were particularly good (although Venture is pretty decent). I have a funny Time Pilot story. When I was a kid I loved Time Pilot as they had it at the local store and I played it whenever I could, so of course I wanted it for the 2600. Going to the store I didn't see it, but I did see another game with planes on the cover and bought that one instead thinking it was probably close (using 6 year old logic). That game was Sky Diver. Not even remotely close, but I oddly enough I really ended up enjoying it and have a soft spot for it to this day (although I liked to watch the guys splat more than land IIRC). It wasn't until I got into the collecting hobby in the 90's that even discovered that there even was a 2600 port of Time Pilot. I probably would have like it just a well back in the day, but I'm still not sorry I got Sky Diver instead. I had something similar happen with Adventure. I used to play it at a Kiosk in Montgomery Ward while my mom shopped, but I never got it until much later when I was collecting. I ended up getting Haunted House, thinking it was similar, and it was completely different. Didn't regret it either, as it's still one of my favorite jump scare games. Time Pilot was pretty good for it's time, 'serviceable' would be the word I'd use. It got the job done, but not amazingly well. The Colecovision port is excellent though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I think it does a reasonably good job for the time. IMHO none of the Coleco 2600 games were particularly good (although Venture is pretty decent). It's a mediocre game at best, and has nothing to do with what makes Time Pilot the game that it is. Time Pilot is: a ship that can turn more than 8 directions, and simultaneously fire and hit enemies in those directions being fired. It's also independent enemies coming from all different directions and firing upon you. Parallax clouds moving by are almost a necessity for the atmosphere, but could be left off and not effect the overall game too much. The 2600 version has none of these. The firing is miserable, and the unison clouds and planes look terrible. Jerky scrolling and only 8 directions of movement don't help. I don't think it even has the parachute guys either. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/278834-time-pilot-final-release/page/3/#findComment-4034360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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