tschak909 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, manterola said: Another option, since there is space available in the 1030, is to fit the new 1030 compatible fujinet together with the 1030 modem board, and add more holes for leds and switches. That way you don't need to kill a working 1030. They both can live happy together in the same enclosure. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4715312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manterola Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) It is just sad to throw the internals away... ? Anyway, it looks like we are in the brainstorming phase of this. Seriously, it just simply satisfying to see the 1030 boot by itself the Atari computer with terminal program and handler, ready to use. That is the beauty of Atari 8 Bits, it was designed to be simple for the masses. Edited January 3, 2021 by manterola Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4715321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Hello guys 9 hours ago, manterola said: It is just sad to throw the internals away... ? That's how I feel about this too. Even if I only put the original motherboard/PCB away somewhere and even if, like the 1030, it can't even be used overhere (the 1030 only did 300 baud at the Bell standard, not the CCITT standard). There is plenty of room inside the 1030 housing left for something like the FujiNet. Plus the 1030 has an unused connector inside that has most of the signals needed. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4715582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Hello mozzwald 11 hours ago, mozzwald said: In the mean time, I'm happy as a clam with my 3D printed plastics. If they break (not likely), I'll make more. Unless you redesign them, you'll have to make holes in the top and bottom of the 1030 case. That kinda defeats the purpose. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4715594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzwald Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 hours ago, manterola said: It is just sad to throw the internals away... ? Anyway, it looks like we are in the brainstorming phase of this. I understand it seems like a waste to not use the original board. At least you can salvage the 2 SIO ports and put them on the FujiNet board. For me, I see no point in keeping the original board. I can't even remember the last time I had a landline. Put one original 1030 in a museum, make the rest FujiNets 19 minutes ago, Mathy said: Unless you redesign them, you'll have to make holes in the top and bottom of the 1030 case. That kinda defeats the purpose. Lol, I see, you thought I was using the actual FujiNet connectors in the 1030 ? no, that would be silly. I whipped up that design in about 30 minutes from the v1.3 schematic just to show where everything would go. I have yet to design a part in Diptrace for the original SIO connector. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4715621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierodoug5 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Ok, just bought a 1030 that just popped up on ebay...so I am ready! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4716002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 This is truly fascinating watching this design mutate. -Thom Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4716004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 This is more where I'm going with it, I can mount that into anything, could even make a 1030 sized board with headers that match the ones on here. 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4716020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin1968 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Fierodoug5 said: Ok, just bought a 1030 that just popped up on ebay Me too just got this one for $35 on eBay. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4716046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierodoug5 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 8:45 PM, Gavin1968 said: Me too just got this one for $35 on eBay. Just got mine 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4722828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Very fond memories of the 1030! The first time I ever saw a BBS was back in 1987, my friend Joe Cochran had a 1200XL and a 1030. I think at the time his brother had a 286. Soon after, I saved up my money and got an XM301. Still have it Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4722867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin1968 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Fierodoug5 said: Just got mine No fair!! You got the box! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4722930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierodoug5 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Gavin1968 said: No fair!! You got the box! Mine is pretty Yellowed on one side, gonna need some retrobrite. Box and manual came with it Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4722945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxide102 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 When will more be available for sale.. i wish to get one with the XE colors confirmed ordered before i get a 130xe from best Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4724534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Over at the ABBUC forums user "Bernd" has posted the following regarding the schematics of v1.3: The output U4 (74LS07) at pin 6 SIO_DATAIN is open collector and needs a pull up resistor of 4.7k to +5V. Depending on the line length and with Pokey divisor 0, the signal gets deformed, because bus termination does not take place. The terminating resistor provides a square wave signal. I just copied the information without knowledge. In case of questions please ask Bernd. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4725867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzwald Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 hours ago, DjayBee said: Over at the ABBUC forums user "Bernd" has posted the following regarding the schematics of v1.3: The output U4 (74LS07) at pin 6 SIO_DATAIN is open collector and needs a pull up resistor of 4.7k to +5V. Depending on the line length and with Pokey divisor 0, the signal gets deformed, because bus termination does not take place. The terminating resistor provides a square wave signal. I just copied the information without knowledge. In case of questions please ask Bernd. Can you provide a link to the original post? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4726000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 http://www.abbuc.de/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10148&start=200#p89578 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4726001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, mozzwald said: Can you provide a link to the original post? http://www.abbuc.de/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10148&p=89582#p89578 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4726002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hello guys "Bernd" is BigBen here on AA. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4726130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBen Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 9:06 AM, DjayBee said: Over at the ABBUC forums user "Bernd" has posted the following regarding the schematics of v1.3: The output U4 (74LS07) at pin 6 SIO_DATAIN is open collector and needs a pull up resistor of 4.7k to +5V. Depending on the line length and with Pokey divisor 0, the signal gets deformed, because bus termination does not take place. The terminating resistor provides a square wave signal. I just copied the information without knowledge. In case of questions please ask Bernd. Thank you DjayBee for the translation. I used the 74LS07 in the Sdrive Max 3 years ago. The SIO interface was blocked. The 74LS07 ensures a clean bus termination. I checked the level adjustment with the oscilloscope. Here is the link with the pictures . https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.abbuc.de/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f%3D15%26t%3D9451%26start%3D100 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4727150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrbrevin Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 im looking to order the parts from mouser to make a Fujinet and im struggling to obtain the Wifi module: M213DH2864PH3Q0 - its out of stock and states its now obsolete. However it does suggest M213EH2864PH3Q0 - can anyone advise if this is compatible? cheers Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4742556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzwald Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, xrbrevin said: im looking to order the parts from mouser to make a Fujinet and im struggling to obtain the Wifi module: M213DH2864PH3Q0 - its out of stock and states its now obsolete. However it does suggest M213EH2864PH3Q0 - can anyone advise if this is compatible? cheers Yes, the WROVER-E module replaces the B module 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4742579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrbrevin Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 sweet! many thanks ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4742613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ripdubski Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Anyone with updates for 1.3 in a 1030 case? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4744123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) On 12/31/2020 at 8:44 PM, Ripdubski said: I should have posted more details. My ideal board would be one that has the following features: -Drop in replacement board, which can use the existing mount points -spring loaded sd slot exposed through rear bezel where telco jack would go -SIO in and out in the obvious rear bezel SIO holes -reset switch where power plug goes on back bezel -power light (white on FujiNet) as red power light on front bezel -activity light (amber on FujiNet) as red ready light on front bezel -on off switch on front bezel in 1030 stock location -bluetooth light (somewhere on back bezel) -left and middle buttons located to from bezel on the diagonal portion (tiny holes to be drilled to expose two small black buttons) -(edit) I forgot the USB port. Maybe stacked with the SD card, or a vertical orientation on the back somewhere. The reason I want the 1030 is I prefer the style over the XE style. Happy to reasonably contribute $ to make it happen. I bought a 1.0 Fujinet from The Brewing Academy for my 800, but have been planning on converting my 1030 into a wi-fi modem for my 1200XL long before Fujinet was started. I'm still going to do this with my 1030 for a version 1.3 (or better-depending on if 1.4 or higher comes along in the meantime). I have a similar idea of using it's SIO and LED's and PSU switch, etc. in my plan as well. My current plan is to keep the original 1030 board in there as it make a perfect mounting platform for the current SIO ports, LED's and power switch already in place, cut traces in suitable places and just use whatever board is available for Fujinet 1.3 mounted on the front bezel and make a slit for the SD card slot, then just run jumper wires & cables to the LED's, on/off switch and SIO & PSU port in the back and use a USB PSU with the proper barrel plug for it. The BT LED would be added to the front bezel as well. So only one new slit and one new hole in the front bezel is all I need to do to the 1030 case. Though I do think I'll change out the red LED's for white and orange, or at least one white for the wi-fi. I'd be interested in a board for the 1030 if anyone makes more besides for themselves. Edited February 5, 2021 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306728-fujinet-hardware-discussion/page/17/#findComment-4745334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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