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1 hour ago, digdugnate said:

I had to search back a bit to find this- i was just thinking it was one of my favorite Basic games when I was a kid.  

There should be also a couple of clones for the game concept in the compiled list. Dracula is one for sure.

 

STRUMPER    ????
Please refer to post https://atariage.com/forums/topic/248687-ti-99-docs-manuals-ebooks-lost-found/?do=findComment&comment=4817272 for the published listing of the program.


 

 

The game is about catching apples and the correct name in English is SCRUMPER.

 

From Collins dictionary:

scrump  -  in British English - verb( dialect ) 
to steal (apples) from an orchard or garden

 

ti99iuc- are you able to amend?   
 

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6 minutes ago, blackbox said:

STRUMPER    ????
Please refer to post https://atariage.com/forums/topic/248687-ti-99-docs-manuals-ebooks-lost-found/?do=findComment&comment=4817272 for the published listing of the program.


 

 

The game is about catching apples and the correct name in English is SCRUMPER.

 

From Collins dictionary:

scrump  -  in British English - verb( dialect ) 
to steal (apples) from an orchard or garden

 

ti99iuc- are you able to amend?   
 

 

The source code we have contains:

 

10 REM  ***************
20 REM  * STRUMPER*****
30 REM  ***************
40 REM
50 REM
60 REM  TI&EXTENDED BASIC
70 REM
80 REM  (C) LANTERN SOFTWARE
90 REM

 

so this is the reason why @ti99iuc classified the game with such name. Not all names in games must necessarily have a meaning related to the game object and not all people are necessarily British English mother tongue...

 

So, today we have learned the verb "to scrump", although "old-fashioned informal" accordingly to Cambridge dictionary and perhaps also not so useful for every day use, expecially if you are in a city. The periphrasis "steal fruit from trees" is able to express the same concept even though not so refined.

 

Anyway, here is the game "Scrumper", instead of the severely incorrect "Strumper". The binary code is the same, of course.

 

 

 

 

[GAME] Scrumper (198x)(Lantern Software)[Compiled by TMOP].zip

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I would surmise that someone typed it in from the magazine and didn't quite get the name right.

 

 

The best known use of scrump is probably SCRUMPY - now used commercially but originally a farm-made extra strong (fully  brewed so very dry)  cloudy and very rough (make you very unwell type) of Cider (an English apple wine which was originally quite strong- scrumpy was the strongest).

Today you can buy Scrumpy cider from Amazon (UK  anyway) with an alcohol content in low single digits.... not what it was. It is even weaker than the beer supermarkets sell.

If you read Discworld books the name is amended to Scumble with the same effect.   s

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3 hours ago, blackbox said:

STRUMPER    ????
Please refer to post https://atariage.com/forums/topic/248687-ti-99-docs-manuals-ebooks-lost-found/?do=findComment&comment=4817272 for the published listing of the program.
 

The game is about catching apples and the correct name in English is SCRUMPER.

 

From Collins dictionary:

scrump  -  in British English - verb( dialect ) 
to steal (apples) from an orchard or garden

 

ti99iuc- are you able to amend?

Thanks for the heads-up Stephen.
The original code I found was a bad translation in Italian of the game but because I hadn't any other information on this game just used the name I found in the code. 
as wrote in the previous message probably the person that translated the game in Italian was also not an English expert, and me too. ?

BTW, I updated the description and the original code for SCRUMPER on the TI99iuc dedicated page. I have a question about it, have you ever seen e real physical copy of this game on cassette tape or it was just published on this newsletter?  I asking this because I always seen only commercial titles from Lantern Software and I didn't know they had published stuff for free too.

I also been able to link it to the TI USER Newsletter page now. In addition, I remembered that I have the Issue 4 - May '84 that is incomplete with missing pages, have you another copy to scan maybe, please? So I will be able to update the present scan.

one more question, I have some of the original cassette tapes by Andromeda Software and I am trying to dump. I have problems with two of them:
 

- Pirate Island - (Ti Basic Game) - It won't load - Bad Tape.
- Grand Pree - (XB game) - game good but the Instruction side is damaged.
 

Have you a copy of them maybe? :)

1 hour ago, sparkdrummer said:

Then what in the hell does George Harrison’s song “APPLE SCRUFFS “ mean?

wasn't that the one that was about the crazy fans that hung around Apple Records all the time?

Hello there.. in answer to various queries...

strumper is somewhat archaic but was fairly offensive - linked to strumpet.

scruff is short for scruffian - someone generally untidy (casual clothing can be referred to as scruffy) in the case of the time and source the reference would be affectionate rather than offensive. Very well dressed men might use the term offensively about poorer people.


 

TI-User 4- yes I have a perfect copy and that will be in my next post on this thread together with issue 3.   What I do not have are perfect copies of 5 and 6 (Oct and Nov 84) - not good enough to scan at all, very faded copies with not enough ink to bring out.

A number of games in TI-User originated with LANTERN SOFTWARE- one reason I think Simon edited the magazine. Scrumper is not known to have had a commercial release.

ANDROMEDA SOFTWARE is fairly rare and I have never seen any in the flesh.       s

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15 hours ago, tmop69 said:

 

The source code we have contains:

 

10 REM  ***************
20 REM  * STRUMPER*****
30 REM  ***************
40 REM
50 REM
60 REM  TI&EXTENDED BASIC
70 REM
80 REM  (C) LANTERN SOFTWARE
90 REM

 

so this is the reason why @ti99iuc classified the game with such name. Not all names in games must necessarily have a meaning related to the game object and not all people are necessarily British English mother tongue...

 

So, today we have learned the verb "to scrump", although "old-fashioned informal" accordingly to Cambridge dictionary and perhaps also not so useful for every day use, expecially if you are in a city. The periphrasis "steal fruit from trees" is able to express the same concept even though not so refined.

 

Anyway, here is the game "Scrumper", instead of the severely incorrect "Strumper". The binary code is the same, of course.

 

 

 

 

[GAME] Scrumper (198x)(Lantern Software)[Compiled by TMOP].zip 7.41 kB · 10 downloads

This is another game with a similar name but it's a completely different game all together.

Apple Scrumping (Home Computing Weekly UK).zip

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11 minutes ago, sprot said:

This is another game with a similar name but it's a completely different game all together.

Apple Scrumping (Home Computing Weekly UK).zip 8.97 kB · 2 downloads

 

Was the compiled version done by you? Some delays should be added in various points to better read messages, etc. If you want to contribute with the compiled BASIC games I can provide some tricks to have a polished version. ? 

 

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30 minutes ago, tmop69 said:

 

Was the compiled version done by you? Some delays should be added in various points to better read messages, etc. If you want to contribute with the compiled BASIC games I can provide some tricks to have a polished version. ? 

 

Yes the compiled version is mine but i fogot how to do it now.

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7 hours ago, blackbox said:

[...] TI-User 4- yes I have a perfect copy and that will be in my next post on this thread together with issue 3.   What I do not have are perfect copies of 5 and 6 (Oct and Nov 84) - not good enough to scan at all, very faded copies with not enough ink to bring out.

It is great! thanks, I only have published the first 4 issues. If you want, I can try to restoring the graphical pages of the 5 and 6, I just need the pages scanned in color and in a non-compressed TIF format. I can primise to do my best to recover and restore the pages.

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A number of games in TI-User originated with LANTERN SOFTWARE- one reason I think Simon edited the magazine.

Scrumper is not known to have had a commercial release.

ANDROMEDA SOFTWARE is fairly rare and I have never seen any in the flesh.       s

Interesting infos thanks.
about the ANDROMEDA SOFTWARE I have 4 titles and one, the soccer manager, is already available online, scans and game.
I really hope to have success to dump the others.

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@sprot here is my SSS compiled version for Apple Scrumping. I've added the proper delays, added joystick support and the ability to replay the game. The zip file has also the XB256 source code used to compile it. Hope it could be of help.

 

 

 

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Total compiled games: 281.

[GAME] Apple Scrumping (1983)(Stuart Lenker)[Compiled by TMOP].zip

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8 hours ago, Elia Spallanzani fdt said:

I've tried it some time ago, but it has not convinced me for the gameplay. Is it really worth a try?

 

 

Other compiled game (not scrumping related...):

 

Casino Black Jack from Miller Graphics;

Dodge-Em from 99er Magazine;

Hungarian Squares from Stephen Shaw.

 

 

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Total compiled games: 284.

 

[GAME] Casino Black Jack (1982)(Miller Graphics)[Compiled by TMOP].zip [GAME] Dodge-Em (198x)(99er Magazine)[Compiled by TMOP].zip [GAME] Hungarian Squares (1982)(Stephen Shaw)[Compiled by TMOP].zip

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An updated version 1.1 of Scrumper, with a couple of fixes for call char data and the original text for the game over screen.

 

 

[GAME] Scrumper V1.1 (1983)(Lantern Software)[Compiled by TMOP].zip

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23 hours ago, tmop69 said:

@sprot here is my SSS compiled version for Apple Scrumping. I've added the proper delays, added joystick support and the ability to replay the game. The zip file has also the XB256 source code used to compile it. Hope it could be of help.

 

 

 

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Total compiled games: 281.

 

[GAME] Apple Scrumping (1983)(Stuart Lenker)[Compiled by TMOP].zip 9.93 kB · 14 downloads

 @tmop69 thanks for the source code, it is of great help to me.  I did not know how to restore the data, for the ability to replay the game.

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Interestingly, the noun "scrump" refers to something small in general (cf. German "schrumpfen" = shrink), including a small apple, and hence the verb to scrump means "to steal apples". This is a bit confusing, but everyone has such stories in their language, I guess.

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