+-^CrossBow^- Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 19 minutes ago, darryl1970 said: It doesn't appear to be an issue with the game. @Phylax stated none of the Atari Basic games save high scores. However, his 2600 games save high scores. When I got one of my 7800GDs, I was having a similar problem. James informed me that the GD's high score cart needed formatted, so to speak. I needed to run a first-run Atari 7800 game (Ms Pac-Man, Dig Dug, etc.) in order to "format" the built-in high score functionality. From that point on, my 7800GD saved high scores on the 7800 BASIC games. I guess the stock games have an extra initialization for empty high score carts. I don't know if the AVox and Savekey work the same. I suggested above as a shot to try. I've got both an Avox and savekey along with an actual HSC (Although it doesn't keep scores without power). And I've got the 7800GD. I believe my 7800GD has the high score file already on it as I've likely initialized it in the past not long after I got it and played a game or two. So are you needing someone to verify if the Avox and Savekey devices are keeping scores with Popeye then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, -^CrossBow^- said: I've got both an Avox and savekey along with an actual HSC (Although it doesn't keep scores without power). And I've got the 7800GD. I believe my 7800GD has the high score file already on it as I've likely initialized it in the past not long after I got it and played a game or two. So are you needing someone to verify if the Avox and Savekey devices are keeping scores with Popeye then? I don't think this was a concern for anybody else in the thread. I think it was just trying to help Phylax. I think he's the only one to report that issue, and he said it seems to be true for all of the 7800 games he's tried so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 4/22/2024 at 4:44 PM, Phylax said: [...] So whatever is happening does not seem to be a problem with Popeye, but rather that the AtariVox is working fine in 2600 mode but not in 7800 mode. How old is the AtariVox? There was a problem with AtariVox and the 7800 (in 7800 mode) in units sold before December 2019. Technically the problem was also triggered by a 2600 game on some units (the Champ games Wizard of Wor) but it was definitely more pronounced on the 7800. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, RevEng said: How old is the AtariVox? There was a problem with AtariVox and the 7800 (in 7800 mode) in units sold before December 2019. Technically the problem was also triggered by a 2600 game on some units (the Champ games Wizard of Wor) but it was definitely more pronounced on the 7800. @Phylax hasn't responded in about a week or so. That's why I checked in. That's good insight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylax Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 5/2/2024 at 8:07 AM, darryl1970 said: Any luck with initializing the HS with a stock game? No luck, unfortunately. I requested a replacement Atarivox and Albert is helping me out with that. Hopefully the replacement will sort it out. I’ll update when I’ve tried it out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Phylax said: No luck, unfortunately. I requested a replacement Atarivox and Albert is helping me out with that. Hopefully the replacement will sort it out. I’ll update when I’ve tried it out. Based on @RevEng's insight, it sounds like that could be the issue. Good to know these things. It sounds like all will workout well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/2/2024 at 11:23 AM, RevEng said: How old is the AtariVox? There was a problem with AtariVox and the 7800 (in 7800 mode) in units sold before December 2019. Technically the problem was also triggered by a 2600 game on some units (the Champ games Wizard of Wor) but it was definitely more pronounced on the 7800. What problem was that? I have new Vox and I just wish to make sure its not still happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, JagChris said: What problem was that? I have new Vox and I just wish to make sure its not still happening. The older model had issues with the Avox essentially playing some glitched sounds for a bit and then not working at all until you unplugged it from the console and plugged it back in. Dungeon Stalker was the one game I had the most issues with at the time as I was lucky to have it last through the first appearance of the wizard without it going nuts on me. There was a workaround for it at that time which, I did do. That was to remove the PIC controller IC chip that was responsible for handling the Vectrex side of things. So removing that chip corrected the issue for me on Atari games at the expense of it not providing speech for Vectrex stuff anymore. Later on I bought one of the newer versions to dedicate for use with my Vectrex. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 If this question has been addressed the thread before I've missed it and apologize. The manual states that on NOVICE level "hidden joystick combinations can be used to disable the red background". I cannot seem to figure this puzzle out though. Can someone toss me a bone? Thanks. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 20 minutes ago, SS said: If this question has been addressed the thread before I've missed it and apologize. The manual states that on NOVICE level "hidden joystick combinations can be used to disable the red background". I cannot seem to figure this puzzle out though. Can someone toss me a bone? Thanks. 😎 In the OP: Quote Red background can be removed in the full version: right, down, right, up, up down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 44 minutes ago, Trebor said: In the OP: Well, duh. Thanks @Trebor! I guess that I really didn't look far back in the thread enough! 🤒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Still having no luck. When and how does one go about inputting the "right, down, right, up, up down" joystick combos? It doesn't seem to be on the title screen and, when you hit the fire button on the title screen, the game starts up with no apparent way to put in the joystick combos then either. Again, sorry if I missed this info somewhere but I am having no luck in figuring out how to get rid of the red background. Thanks for any more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 50 minutes ago, SS said: Still having no luck. When and how does one go about inputting the "right, down, right, up, up down" joystick combos? It doesn't seem to be on the title screen and, when you hit the fire button on the title screen, the game starts up with no apparent way to put in the joystick combos then either. Again, sorry if I missed this info somewhere but I am having no luck in figuring out how to get rid of the red background. Thanks for any more help. Perhaps you're just trying to do it too quickly. If you see here, "REV F" toggles after the "NOVICE" difficulty. REV F is the pink background. Plain "NOVICE" removes the background color. When the code is correct, you get a sound effect. This setting will save to a high score device if you are using one. I hope this helps: -Darryl - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 On 11/8/2023 at 4:15 PM, Albert said: And quite a few people did! ..Al And it's one I wish I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Holbrook Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Where can I purchase a rom or physical copy??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Unless something has changed the only thing that is available for free or at all is the demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeguychicago Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 10 hours ago, Paul Holbrook said: Where can I purchase a rom or physical copy??? The ROM of the full game is not available for sale at this point and it's unlikely that it will become available. As for the cart, your only option at this point is eBay or the AA Marketplace. The cart was pulled from the store ahead of the Atari purchase of AtariAge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plx Posted Monday at 01:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:08 AM So why not releasing the full game as a binary to download..? (I mean, the demo seems to be no problem, why is the full version?) I was asking this myself since I've heard about this great port - unfortunately, the physical copies had already been sold out at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted Monday at 06:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:08 AM 4 hours ago, plx said: So why not releasing the full game as a binary to download..? (I mean, the demo seems to be no problem, why is the full version?) I was asking this myself since I've heard about this great port - unfortunately, the physical copies had already been sold out at that point. Would you and why ask if it isn't for sale, if you can have it for free? What if he wants to make another run in the future, through another avenue (cough), for instance? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylax Posted Tuesday at 02:37 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:37 AM On 5/8/2024 at 12:14 PM, darryl1970 said: Based on @RevEng's insight, it sounds like that could be the issue. Good to know these things. It sounds like all will workout well. Just wanted to give this some closure: it was indeed a faulty AtariVox. The replacement is working great in all tested 2600 games and Popeye! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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