Wizewonathome Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Kamikazi26 said: I have seen a few. They all were trayless. I have a shrink wrapped one that I won’t open, but I’m kinda of the opinion that they were never released with a tray. Here are Sample of a few of the Internal views for Comparison. I too, checked the tray sizing in the Taiwan Box, and Can confirm, the design was not to fit a plastic insert tray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BSRSteve said: This opening is 71x92mm, and the tray fits inside. 2 hours ago, BSRSteve said: My two boxes where the tray doesn't fit, has different cardboard arrangements for the pocket, and the opening is 70x91 mm The opening of my box is 70x91 mm too… We might have both variants with and without plastic tray then, the latter being less common… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Morpheus said: The opening of my box is 70x91 mm too… We might have both variants with and without plastic tray then, the latter being less common… Just found a second Taiwan box, and there is about a Millimetre difference between the two. The Definitive difference , between variants, would lie in the Bottom flap print out As they both have the Part number 2611-0910-G1 as their key, and they have the same print out on the bottom flap. I will not chalk these up as a variant. I think the proper way to catalogue boxes, as variants, would be by the Internal part Number (Key), the exterior Back and or Front view, and by the Top and or Bottom Flap view, and weather they have a Internal Plastic tray, or were designed without one. This is How I am categorizing the variants in my Picture database. Edited November 22, 2021 by Wizewonathome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Wizewonathome said: Just found a second Taiwan box, and there is about a Millimetre difference between the two. The Definitive difference , between variants, would lie in the Bottom flap print out As they both have the Part number 2611-0910-G1 as their key, and they have the same print out on the bottom flap. I will not chalk these up as a variant. I think the proper way to catalogue boxes, as variants, would be by the Internal part Number (Key), the exterior Back and or Front view, and by the Top and or Bottom Flap view, and weather they have a Internal Plastic tray, or were designed without one. This is How I am categorizing the variants in my Picture database. Quite difficult to draw a line with the variants indeed... As far as I'm concerned, same box, same PN, same bottom flap text, but with or without plastic tray would definitely qualify as variant, and I'm tracking them down in my mega excel file that I hope to complete and release soon to the community. Also, even if @Spadafermo51 jokes about it , I consider variant the presence or not of the red round sticker "NEW" on the INTV Corp. Boxes. Another important difference with your approach it that I'm also tracking, not always, different cartridges in same box (white label over original Mattel label for example in the II games, or the INTV cartirdges labels that can vary for the same game). I'm not traking manuals in my file (so far). The truth is that for cartridges and manuals variant the only solution is the database like Intvfunhouse: the one dimension database like the excel file can't work. With this kind of variant policy, I have already listed 666 variants for Mattel, Intellivision Inc and INTV Corp games. I still have to add the Australian Lyfestyle Electronics stickered games that we listed few months ago and some Aurimat and Digiplay games, then it should be quite complete. One fo the reasons why I did create my file is to make sure I don't buy twice the very same game by mistake, I don't like doubles. I can upload my file on my iPhone and see very rapidly and easily if I have already a game or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Quite difficult to draw a line with the variants indeed... As far as I'm concerned, same box, same PN, same bottom flap text, but with or without plastic tray would definitely qualify as variant, and I'm tracking them down in my mega excel file that I hope to complete and release soon to the community. Also, even if @Spadafermo51 jokes about it , I consider variant the presence or not of the red round sticker "NEW" on the INTV Corp. Boxes. Another important difference with your approach it that I'm also tracking, not always, different cartridges in same box (white label over original Mattel label for example in the II games, or the INTV cartirdges labels that can vary for the same game). I'm not traking manuals in my file (so far). The truth is that for cartridges and manuals variant the only solution is the database like Intvfunhouse: the one dimension database like the excel file can't work. With this kind of variant policy, I have already listed 666 variants for Mattel, Intellivision Inc and INTV Corp games. I still have to add the Australian Lyfestyle Electronics stickered games that we listed few months ago and some Aurimat and Digiplay games, then it should be quite complete. One fo the reasons why I did create my file is to make sure I don't buy twice the very same game by mistake, I don't like doubles. I can upload my file on my iPhone and see very rapidly and easily if I have already a game or not. I do think once I get my complete picture database done, and you complete you complete your datafile of variants, we should be able to at least get the box section, started on a web site. At last count I was over 500 variants, not including Intellivision Inc. games and the INTV group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Morpheus said: Another important difference with your approach it that I'm also tracking, not always, different cartridges in same box (white label over original Mattel label for example in the II games, or the INTV cartirdges labels that can vary for the same game). I'm not traking manuals in my file (so far). The truth is that for cartridges and manuals variant the only solution is the database like Intvfunhouse: the one dimension database like the excel file can't work. I have no way of telling what cartridge (or manual, or overlay) SHOULD go in which box (beyond the HK/US, etc information), so in my spreadsheet, I just track which manual, cartridge and overlay variant is in which box IN MY COLLECTION (or on its own line if it is something I know I need). I have not been diligent about adding every single variant into my spreadsheet if I don't have it, but it does have everything I own. I have 522 boxes from the original 125, some of those include more than one manual and few even have more than one cartridge (to reduce the duplicate boxes). And there is one repro box in the bunch (Spiker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, BSRSteve said: I have no way of telling what cartridge (or manual, or overlay) SHOULD go in which box (beyond the HK/US, etc information), so in my spreadsheet, I just track which manual, cartridge and overlay variant is in which box IN MY COLLECTION (or on its own line if it is something I know I need). I have not been diligent about adding every single variant into my spreadsheet if I don't have it, but it does have everything I own. I have 522 boxes from the original 125, some of those include more than one manual and few even have more than one cartridge (to reduce the duplicate boxes). And there is one repro box in the bunch (Spiker). I think it is more important to have a section dedicated to the box variants, but not the contents in them. A separate section would be the proper route to take, as shown on your spread sheet. If a new website is set up, I have some cool ideas for integration and user friendlyness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I honestly feel like I'm over 1000 and yes red "New" stickers on a box count. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Another request for the Picture data Base. Looking for a copy of Triple Action 3760-0810, the Radofin Version? If so, could you post clear Front view, Back view, Inside view and a Bottom flap view of the box? I have only found two copies of the box so far. These pictures are low resolution and blurry. This is the inside view confirming the existence, of this variant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Another request for the Picture data Base. Looking for a copy of 1120-0810, Draughts, the Radofin Version? If there are both a Hong Kong Radofin, and a White Sticker Australian version, it would be nice to have both sets of the pictures. If so, could you post clear Front view, Back view, Inside view and a Bottom flap view of the box? Sample view of the Front cover is here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humblejack Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Thanks @Humblejack, for the pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Another request for the Picture data Base. Looking for a copy of 3412-0910, USCF Chess, the Hong Kong Version? If so, could you post clear Front view, Back view, Inside view and a Bottom flap view of the box? Sample view of the Front cover is here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humblejack Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Not great pics but I have sold it so it's all I have. They may do until you can get better ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 That confirms, that the back of the box is the same as another, also gives me the bottom flap view, for my tracker picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Hi Folks! Today I was checking some of my games and I noticed that I have two copies of SPACE BATTLE 2612-0410 Made in HONG KONG International edition, dark blue Space Network box with plastic tray, no PN on top, slots back for manual, both without the bottom flap blue sticker. The text is printed on the bottom flap. Now, on Intvfunhouse the only 0410 listed is described WITH a "CA on sticker on bottom" that I assume should mean the blue sticker that we find now and then on many variants. I would like to understand if that variant, with the "CA on sticker on bottom" exists and, if yes, get a picture of it. Do you have some more info about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humblejack Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 This one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) @Humblejack When providing Views of a Box, Please provide All Views including Front view, Back view, Inside full View, and Bottom Flap View. If there is information on the Top, That view as well will help out. I realize some views, may look redundant, and the same as other boxes, but having all views nails down the actual variant for the Picture data base. The database is being built for the prime reason, that the INTV Funhouse site lacks some of the views to confirm an actual box. Thank you Edited December 19, 2021 by Wizewonathome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Humblejack said: This one? Absolutely Hankster!? Thanks a lot, we have here a new variant : the 0410 HK without the blue sticker on the bottom flap!? Does your box have the slots back? @intellivotion, has your copy that doesn’t have the slots back the bottom flap blue sticker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humblejack Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) No slots. Edited December 19, 2021 by Humblejack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Humblejack said: No slots. We could deduce that the without slots came with the bottom flap blue sticker… Let’s see if Simone will confirm it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Morpheus said: We could deduce that the without slots came with the bottom flap blue sticker… Let’s see if Simone will confirm it! Looking at my Picture group for the No-Slot version of Space Battle, I can see what looks like a sticker, If I enhance the Picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Wizewonathome said: Looking at my Picture group for the No-Slot version of Space Battle, I can see what looks like a sticker, If I enhance the Picture. Very interesting… So far we have two Space Battle 0410 HK variants certified: 1 - with slots back for manual and without bottom flap blue sticker - by Morpheus 2 - without slots back for manual and with bottom flap blue sticker - by Humblejack and you. Let’s see if in the future we will spot the remaining two possible combinations… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSRSteve Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Very interesting… So far we have two Space Battle 0410 HK variants certified: 1 - with slots back for manual and without bottom flap blue sticker - by Morpheus 2 - without slots back for manual and with bottom flap blue sticker - by Humblejack and you. Let’s see if in the future we will spot the remaining two possible combinations… Both my slotted and unslotted Space Battle 0410 HK have the sticker. Not convenient to get pictures for the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizewonathome Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Morpheus said: Very interesting… So far we have two Space Battle 0410 HK variants certified: 1 - with slots back for manual and without bottom flap blue sticker - by Morpheus 2 - without slots back for manual and with bottom flap blue sticker - by Humblejack and you. Let’s see if in the future we will spot the remaining two possible combinations… That is correct, and the update has been reflected with pictures and proper changes in the database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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