+DZ-Jay Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 9:34 PM, cmart604 said: As a huge Tron fan I loved this game as a kid. In fact, I dare say more than Tron DD. ? Is “TRON Double-D” a new “mature” game planned by Rev? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Is “TRON Double-D” a new “mature” game planned by Rev? Yeah, I think he's also working on AD&DD Busty Mountains ? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Rickster8 said: Yes the scrolling screen on the fast level gets unplayable eventually and all you can do is try feverishly to make it to the direction changer.... ? Not any more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Morpheus said: I’m for the CIB Super Pro Tron Maze and definitely with Betzerk for a Super Pro D&D Cloudy Mountain No CIBs. Super Pro Cloudy Mountain is something I started working on but shifted my focus. Next on my list is to finish updating are the Tron games with Solar Sailor being next after Maze-a-Tron as I owned it as a kid. I did not own Deadly Disc so I do not have any ideas yet what to do with that title. Adventures of Tron already received the Super Pro treatment. Edited October 30, 2021 by intvdave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligentleman Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 This game deserves more credit in my opinion. The sense of progression through the narrative - or at least through the gameplay objectives - is lacking. But remember, most games at this time had no real ludo-narrative progress arc. this is one of the only original Intellivision games where I could see the developers reaching for something with multiple gameplay states and a semi logical path to reaching the big boss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cjherr Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, intvdave said: Adventures of Tron already received the Super Pro treatment. Where can I get hold of super Pro Adventures of Tron? Plus votes of interest for SP Solar Sailer and SP Cloudy Mountain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, intvdave said: I did not own Deadly Disc so I do not have any ideas yet what to do with that title. Deadly Discs is pretty much perfect. As a huge fan of the game, I don’t think anything needs to be done with it. Edited October 30, 2021 by IntyFanMatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 13 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: Deadly Discs is pretty much perfect. As a huge fan of the game, I don’t think anything needs to be done with it. How about ... hmm ... Running and Shooting simultaneously? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 hours ago, IntyFanMatt said: Deadly Discs is pretty much perfect. As a huge fan of the game, I don’t think anything needs to be done with it. Many think the same until I update them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, DZ-Jay said: How about ... hmm ... Running and Shooting simultaneously? The only way to implement this is to shoot in the direction the man is moving in. Is this the preferred way to shoot? I tried to implement using the side buttons to shoot in Ms. Night Stalker but it was not well received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, intvdave said: The only way to implement this is to shoot in the direction the man is moving in. Is this the preferred way to shoot? I tried to implement using the side buttons to shoot in Ms. Night Stalker but it was not well received. I think it could be an option: You press the button to shoot and it does so in the direction of moving -- or you can stop moving and using the keys as normal. There is always more than one way to skin a cat. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: I think it could be an option: You press the button to shoot and it does so in the direction of moving -- or you can stop moving and using the keys as normal. There is always more than one way to skin a cat. -dZ. There is only one way to skin a cat but your suggestion would be easy to implement. I think a color change of tron would be nice. I am sure we can come up with more ideas. Someone will want a snow level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Spear Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I thi k the original developers did what the could with the limited ROM space, which I think is why the maze is so repetitive and frustrating.. Ore maze pie es would definitely help to deal with the itm that Rick pointed out. Would not be easy to implement I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 hours ago, DZ-Jay said: How about ... hmm ... Running and Shooting simultaneously? That could help. But as the previous world record holder of the game, I got very used to it. Isn’t that limitation due to the design of the controllers anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, IntyFanMatt said: That could help. But as the previous world record holder of the game, I got very used to it. Isn’t that limitation due to the design of the controllers anyway? Yes, and no. If you want to shoot in different directions than the one you are running and use the keys for that, then yes. But that is a design decision, not a technical constraint. You could also do it differently: pressing a side button enables "aiming mode" and pressing the disc with the button pressed shoots in that direction. Like I said, there are many ways to skin a cat. My problem with the game is that I actually have to look at the hand-controller in order to press a shooting key, or at least switch my focus from screen to hand to find the keypad. So being able to shoot with with the disc would solve that. However, I do admit that I am not very proficient in the game and that others do not have the same issues. dZ. Edited October 31, 2021 by DZ-Jay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 47 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Yes, and no. If you want to shoot in different directions than the one you are running and use the keys for that, then yes. But that is a design decision, not a technical constraint. You could also do it differently: pressing a side button enables "aiming mode" and pressing the disc with the button pressed shoots in that direction. Like I said, there are many ways to skin a cat. My problem with the game is that I actually have to look at the hand-controller in order to press a shooting key, or at least switch my focus from screen to hand to find the keypad. So being able to shoot with with the disc would solve that. However, I do admit that I am not very proficient in the game and that others do not have the same issues. dZ. Got it. But in my opinion, I don’t think the shooting controls need to be changed to the disc. That would be awful actually. I’m sure the folks that are proficient in the game would feel the same way. I don’t even need to look at the pad to shoot, I know exactly where every button is with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, IntyFanMatt said: Got it. But in my opinion, I don’t think the shooting controls need to be changed to the disc. That would be awful actually. I’m sure the folks that are proficient in the game would feel the same way. I don’t even need to look at the pad to shoot, I know exactly where every button is with this one. Horses for courses, I guess. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, DZ-Jay said: Horses for courses, I guess. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, DZ-Jay said: Yes, and no. If you want to shoot in different directions than the one you are running and use the keys for that, then yes. But that is a design decision, not a technical constraint. You could also do it differently: pressing a side button enables "aiming mode" and pressing the disc with the button pressed shoots in that direction. Like I said, there are many ways to skin a cat. My problem with the game is that I actually have to look at the hand-controller in order to press a shooting key, or at least switch my focus from screen to hand to find the keypad. So being able to shoot with with the disc would solve that. However, I do admit that I am not very proficient in the game and that others do not have the same issues. dZ. Do you play with the overlays on. Without overlays you should be able to rest your thumb on KP5 and go back and forth to one of the throw buttons. I'd make Deadly Discs with dual discs controls one disc moves in sixteen directions, the other disc throws in sixteen directions. Any button activates block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik's Arcade Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 12:32 PM, JasonlikesINTV said: Yeah, I think he's also working on AD&DD Busty Mountains ? If you guys keep talking like this, my next game will be Custer's Revenge : The Revenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) This beauty allows you to use the disc and the keypad at the same time. It was made out of two flashback controllers turned into one,and it plugs into both ports. Edited November 1, 2021 by wolfy62 Added content. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imstarryeyed Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Tron Deadly Discs was ahead of its time, it was the first twin stick shooter for the Intellivision and did not use twin stick. If a new game was made I would suggest allow using 2 controller discs as an option for those of us that would use an arcade twin stick on the Intellivision 2 system. I however could never wrap my kid brain around Maze a tron back then so I am willing to give it a go with a overgrown kid brain now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntyFanMatt Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, wolfy62 said: This beauty allows you to use the disc and the keypad at the same time. It was made out of two flashback controllers turned into one,and it plugs into both ports. Yup, that’s all ya need!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 hours ago, First Spear said: I thi k the original developers did what the could with the limited ROM space, which I think is why the maze is so repetitive and frustrating.. Ore maze pie es would definitely help to deal with the itm that Rick pointed out. Would not be easy to implement I am sure. The original game was just designed to be to hard. It has nothing to do with ROM space. It seems like it was designed for an arcade system instead of a home system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvdave Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 hours ago, DZ-Jay said: You could also do it differently: pressing a side button enables "aiming mode" and pressing the disc with the button pressed shoots in that direction. This makes little sense. There is only two ways to do this. Use the keypad or use a side button to shot in the direction you are moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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