+CyranoJ Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Yeah you basically never see new neogeo, megadrive, dreamcast games called homebrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, agradeneu said: On english websites/channels, I think they are just called new games. Especially Xeno Crisis, Tanglewood are not refered as homebrew. To be a bit more specific: homebrew also often refers to hacks of a existing software/games, isn't it? Oh OK. But these games were a lot more mentioned by general gaming websites, so I don't think it's specific to Genesis. Since "new games on old systems" represent about a third of the games I tackle at my website, I need a word to differentiate them more easily. I also use the word 'demake' which is also very specific to retrogaming for instance. Big VG websites don't necessarily need that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, CyranoJ said: Yeah you basically never see new neogeo, megadrive, dreamcast games called homebrew. On my website you do, because I don't see why these systems should be treated differently than the NES, the C64 or the Jaguar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I dunno… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast_homebrew https://segaretro.org/List_of_Sega_Mega_Drive_homebrew_games#2020_-_2021 https://www.reddit.com/r/neogeo/comments/2g3683/homebrew_neo_geo_shooter_razion_released_on_aes/ If Razion, Xenocider, Xenocrisis, Tänzer, and Tanglewood are homebrew, there can be no negative connotation to it in those people’s minds. EDIT: although that page on Sega-16 seems to have been abandoned in favor of an “aftermarket games” tag that is not super helpful as it includes all of the reissues of games that were commercially released in the system’s lifetime… https://segaretro.org/Category:Mega_Drive_aftermarket_games So maybe this is an evolving terminology shift. In any case, whatever you call them, they are what I am most excited about in video gaming right now for most systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game Indie games evolved from homebrew or "amateur games", so to speak. They are usually focusing on polished artwork and gameplay mechanics. Some try to be entertainment art, akin to independent film of new ways of expression and narration. Last but not least they are not free, but commercial releases. Edited January 16, 2022 by agradeneu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, jgkspsx said: I dunno… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast_homebrew https://segaretro.org/List_of_Sega_Mega_Drive_homebrew_games#2020_-_2021 https://www.reddit.com/r/neogeo/comments/2g3683/homebrew_neo_geo_shooter_razion_released_on_aes/ If Razion, Xenocider, Xenocrisis, Tänzer, and Tanglewood are homebrew, there can be no negative connotation to it in those people’s minds. EDIT: although that page on Sega-16 seems to have been abandoned in favor of an “aftermarket games” tag that is not super helpful as it includes all of the reissues of games that were commercially released in the system’s lifetime… https://segaretro.org/Category:Mega_Drive_aftermarket_games So maybe this is an evolving terminology shift. In any case, whatever you call them, they are what I am most excited about in video gaming right now for most systems. But Sturmwind by Duranik, Gunlord or Last Hope by NG Dev are not listed as DC homebrew. Hm.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Agradeneu seemed to imply homebrew was synonymous with amateur. By that metric it definitely doesn't apply to Duranik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 hours ago, agradeneu said: But Sturmwind by Duranik, Gunlord or Last Hope by NG Dev are not listed as DC homebrew. Hm.... They are here… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dreamcast_homebrew_games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 It's a matter of terminology. Call them "indie" or "homebrew", doesn't really matter to me. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Sauron said: It's a matter of terminology. Call them "indie" or "homebrew", doesn't really matter to me. Me either but people seem to get upset about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I tried the same thing on my Fire HD 10. Here is the answer I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I tried twice again. Same Wolfenstein answer again both times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Ask her what a homebrew game is! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Biff Burgertime Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I think it's every game developer's right to say "my product is no amateur hack job, it deserves to be prominently displayed alongside Checkered Flag and Supercross 3D."" 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Buffalo Biff Burgertime said: I think it's every game developer's right to say "my product is no amateur hack job, it deserves to be prominently displayed alongside Checkered Flag and Supercross 3D."" Indeed, we are aiming for the bottom 5 Jaguar titles. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editorb Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 It could be noted (and thus, I shall) that all homebrew games are independent; perhaps not all independent games are homebrew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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