Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Bitmap Bureau's quality twin-stick shooter has enjoyed ports to the Neo-Geo, Dreamcast, and modern platforms. As the Jaguar only has Llamatron and Total Carnage, Xeno Crisis would make a welcome addition to the Jaguar's library. Leave a like or comment if you agree: https://m.facebook.com/groups/jaguarfans/permalink/4862513937173018/?m_entstream_source=group&ref=m_notif¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 https://forums.atari.io/topic/6423-xeno-crisis-or-a-game-like-it-on-the-atari-jaguar/#comment-76848 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Do you mean something like this ? Of course, would need to put more time than the 2 or 3 days for this very alpha... Just need motivation and time to get back to it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 How did I forgot to include the link ??? Any interest in a top-down shooter game (think Super Smash TV, Xenocrisis like) ? - Atari Jaguar - AtariAge Forums 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fadest said: How did I forgot to include the link ??? Any interest in a top-down shooter game (think Super Smash TV, Xenocrisis like) ? - Atari Jaguar - AtariAge Forums That looks great! Any sort of time-frame before its completion? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 The Jaguar deserves a game like Xeno Crisis. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gunther said: That looks great! Any sort of time-frame before its completion? Thanks. This was a 2/3 days test of Jagstudio (to be honest, it was the second test, so not starting from scratch). 2 players, rooms are flexible (walls, ennemies), multiple weapons & ammo, health, no boss yet... But still lot of work to do (in fact, most of the work still to do) Right now, I focus on my tactical rogue like Lynx & Game Boy, then I want to make a full game for the Jaguar, this is of course one of the candidate... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Just now, Fadest said: Thanks. This was a 2/3 days test of Jagstudio (to be honest, it was the second test, so not starting from scratch). 2 players, rooms are flexible (walls, ennemies), multiple weapons & ammo, health, no boss yet... But still lot of work to do (in fact, most of the work still to do) Right now, I focus on my tactical rogue like Lynx & Game Boy, then I want to make a full game for the Jaguar, this is of course one of the candidate... Keep working on it. How will you implement the twin-stick controls? The Pro-Controller has a nice diamond of action buttons that would be perfect, but the three-button would need to use simplified controls, or the use of the Keypad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Right now, I use 3 buttons (1 is like Llamatron on ST _ keeps firing in direction when it was pressed, 1 is firing in the direction you are moving) The game is also on hold because I am waiting for a Pro Controller (with Gravitic Mines bundle) to test the 4 direction setup I ddid not test the keypad option, but I am not sure to like it. I know Total Carnage use it, so I may have to test TC during a next AC or RGC show 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 The keypad may be a bit cumbersome for this type of game for those with small hands. The 6-button's perfect though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Make sure to add lots of sprite-scaling and rotation effects ;). Having enemies drop into the rooms would really change-up the gameplay for games like Xeno Crisis. This would help to showcase the Jaguar's abilities, especially coupled with good lighting-effects. Having rooms with broken/faulty/stroboscopic lighting would add a different dynamic to the gameplay. Edited February 17, 2022 by Gunther 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Honest 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 As I said on Facebook the game looks a lot of fun, but unless a Jaguar version is kick-ass silky smooth 60fps hi-octane action, I would prefer to not see it on the system. Raptors eat Xenos, by the way ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Would be nice to see a port of the Genesis game. Since the artwork is from pixel legend Henk Nieborg, nobody should mess with it. BTW differences between versions of Genesis, Dreamcast, Neogeo or modern consoles are minimal. Edited February 17, 2022 by agradeneu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) If it runs silk smooth on Neo Geo would it be impossible to run as silk smooth on Jaguar? I have no idea, just looking at it. Edited February 17, 2022 by Atlantis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Gunther said: Make sure to add lots of sprite-scaling and rotation effects ;). Having enemies drop into the rooms would really change-up the gameplay for games like Xeno Crisis. This would help to showcase the Jaguar's abilities, especially coupled with good lighting-effects. Having rooms with broken/faulty/stroboscopic lighting would add a different dynamic to the gameplay. It would be fun to see someone program some new sprite effects that are unique to the Jag. "Melting" enemy pixels or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Atlantis said: If it runs silk smooth on Neo Geo would it be impossible to run as silk smooth on Jaguar? I have no idea, just looking at it. The Jaguar dumps on the Neo-Geo spec-wise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gunther said: The Jaguar dumps on the Neo-Geo spec-wise. There are ways to slow down the Jaguar when programming. Specs don't matter if resources aren't used correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Atlantis said: If it runs silk smooth on Neo Geo would it be impossible to run as silk smooth on Jaguar? I have no idea, just looking at it. It's a Genesis port that does not push the Neogeo much, let alone the Jaguar. It's multi single screen, no scrolling or parallax. Latest homebrews are pushing the Jaguar much more than this would do. So technically, it's not a problem, the issue is licensing and getting the source code and assets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Gunther said: Make sure to add lots of sprite-scaling and rotation effects ;). Having enemies drop into the rooms would really change-up the gameplay for games like Xeno Crisis. This would help to showcase the Jaguar's abilities, especially coupled with good lighting-effects. Having rooms with broken/faulty/stroboscopic lighting would add a different dynamic to the gameplay. Since all versions are more or less identical, I guess BB would only allow a 1:1 port. Which would be sensational. Adding extra eye candy might be possible, but it would remain the same game. Jaguar could display more colors, but that would mean retouching some of the graphics, maybe for worse. I think the gfx are perfect as they are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, agradeneu said: Since all versions are more or less identical, I guess BB would only allow a 1:1 port. Which would be sensational. Adding extra eye candy might be possible, but it would remain the same game. Jaguar could display more colors, but that would mean retouching some of the graphics, maybe for worse. I think the gfx are perfect as they are. I agree that it's perfect as it is. These could be cool additions to Fadest's WIP. Edited February 17, 2022 by Gunther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gunther said: I agree that it's perfect as it is. These could be cool additions to Fadest's WIP. Even with all the colors of Jaguar, it's almost impossible to beat the artwork of a legend like Nieborg! Its all about the abilties of the artist, that will trump hardware power any day. So, its very reasonable to program a similar engine, but very unlikely to get artwork of that caliber.... Edited February 17, 2022 by agradeneu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, agradeneu said: Even with all the colors of Jaguar, it's almost impossible to beat the artwork of a legend like Nieborg! Its all about the abilties of the artist, that will trump hardware power any day. So, its very reasonable to program a similar engine, but very unlikely to get artwork of that caliber.... I imagine he charges a pretty penny too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, agradeneu said: Since all versions are more or less identical, I guess BB would only allow a 1:1 port. Which would be sensational. Adding extra eye candy might be possible, but it would remain the same game. Jaguar could display more colors, but that would mean retouching some of the graphics, maybe for worse. I think the gfx are perfect as they are. I think they should add predator mode to it. I can only really enjoy my games in strange modified color schemes that don't enhance the game play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, agradeneu said: Since all versions are more or less identical, I guess BB would only allow a 1:1 port. Which would be sensational. Adding extra eye candy might be possible, but it would remain the same game. Jaguar could display more colors, but that would mean retouching some of the graphics, maybe for worse. I think the gfx are perfect as they are. In all sincerity though, I think their art style is really great and modifying it to add more colors wouldn't really do anything to help the overall design of this game since it was designed to look this way to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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