mr_me Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Atari8man2004 said: The only bin file I could find was at the internet archive and I used the cfg file I downloded here at atariage it converted to rom and it loaded in to the backbit fine but after game selection the screen turns black and stays black. I search hi and low with google but all roms are in the int format yuk! cfg map below Super Pro Football .cfg 57 B · 2 downloads Intellivision rom files with .int, .itv, and .bin extensions are all the same bin format. That is the correct configuration for Super Pro Football, make sure the filenames match, watch for extra spaces. Edited November 19, 2023 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, mr_me said: Intellivision rom files with .int, .itv, and .bin extensions are all the same bin format. That is the correct configuration for Super Pro Football, make sure the filenames match, watch for extra spaces. I'v tried everything I know about the spaces in the file names I must have converted 30 or 40 roms this is very strange indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Atari8man2004 said: I'v tried everything I know about the spaces in the file names I must have converted 30 or 40 roms this is very strange indeed. Test the .rom file in the Jzintv emulator. If it works there then the conversion is good, submit the converted .rom to Backbit support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, mr_me said: Test the .rom file in the Jzintv emulator. If it works there then the conversion is good, submit the converted .rom to Backbit support. It works with both Jzintv and Nostalgia. I will send it off to backbit support . I am hoping the Brotherhood may know of a fix in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Try this one Super Pro Football (1986) (Intv Corp).rom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, IntellivisionDude said: Try this one Super Pro Football (1986) (Intv Corp).rom 32.06 kB · 0 downloads Still not working I'm starting to think it maybe the firmware I'm running V 3.4.7 of the firmware. IntellivisionDude what version are you running? Thanks Bro! also can the firmware be downgraded? Edited November 20, 2023 by Atari8man2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Atari8man2004 said: Still not working I'm starting to think it maybe the firmware I'm running V 3.4.7 of the firmware. IntellivisionDude what version are you running? Thanks Bro! also can the firmware be downgraded? I'm on the same firmware. Super Pro Football loads for me. And yes you can downgrade. I have downgraded before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, IntellivisionDude said: I'm on the same firmware. Super Pro Football loads for me. And yes you can downgrade. I have downgraded before. It loads but after you select the players and you start the game it displays just a black screen. My system is intellivision II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Atari8man2004 said: It loads but after you select the players and you start the game it displays just a black screen. My system is intellivision II There is a known bug with the Super Pro Football cartridge and Intellivision II but the game is still playable. Some rom variants have been found so it's possible the bug is worse with a variant and the Backbit is fine. Can you post the checksum of your SP Football .int/bin file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Atari8man2004 said: It loads but after you select the players and you start the game it displays just a black screen. My system is intellivision II I'm using a Sears Intellivision. I gave it a better test and it's playing just fine for me. I can have Evie try it. She uses a Intellivision II. I'll make a post in the backbit forums https://forum.backbit.io/index.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The problem is likely the rom file and not the Backbit. I found two variations of Super Pro Football rom files: crc32 83141d85 (possible image of cartridge rom) crc32 32076e9d (distributed with Intellivision Lives CD) I tested in emulation, and the rom file 32076e9d crashes jzintv using an Intellivision II exec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Reply from Evie "On my INTV II, I get a black screen after player selection. Must be an incompatibility with the game itself." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Here are 2 different ones you can try. Super Pro Football.rom Super Pro Football (1986) (Intv Corp).int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, IntellivisionDude said: Here are 2 different ones you can try. Super Pro Football.rom 32.06 kB · 0 downloads Super Pro Football (1986) (Intv Corp).int 32 kB · 0 downloads The Super Pro Football loads and crashes to a black screen after player selection the other rom with the 1986c intv corp crashes to a green screen instantly. Thanks for informing the Backbit group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntellivisionDude Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Atari8man2004 said: The Super Pro Football loads and crashes to a black screen after player selection the other rom with the 1986c intv corp crashes to a green screen instantly. Thanks for informing the Backbit group. No problem. Just out of curiosity have you tried with and without the ECS attached? It may not make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, IntellivisionDude said: Here are 2 different ones you can try. Super Pro Football.rom 32.06 kB · 2 downloads Super Pro Football (1986) (Intv Corp).int 32 kB · 7 downloads The rom images in these two files are identical and the same as the one distributed on Intellivision Lives CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, IntellivisionDude said: No problem. Just out of curiosity have you tried with and without the ECS attached? It may not make a difference. I did try it without the ECS and intellivoice attached and same results. I converted all my games to the backbit I only had 2 issues one was the World series baseball and Super pro football . Larryvgs help with the world series "Thanks Larry" and thank you Intv Dude! I can now start using the backbit for the C64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8man2004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Thank you Mr_Me. The rom works perfect!!! I converted it to rom with bin2rom. My Intellivision games now sits on the backbit and I can now put the carts away for good keeping thanks to all of you for the help. spftbllb.cfg spftbllb.rom Edited November 20, 2023 by Atari8man2004 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) On 11/19/2023 at 1:37 AM, IntellivisionDude said: Try this one. It works on my Backbit World Series Major League Baseball.rom 49.07 kB · 2 downloads On 11/19/2023 at 2:21 AM, larryvgs said: I'm pretty sure you need the ECS attached in order for that to work on a Backbit. I just tried that file (World Series Major League Baseball.rom), I don't have an ECS, and it doesn't work on my BackBit. Converting it to .ecs doesn't help either. In fact, I was unable to get any available roms or ints of that game to play in an emulator. It would work at first in jzIntvImGui_2.3.7, but then always freeze after one inning with an awful staticky noise. On the other hand, David Harley has an ECS controller bundle of 5 ECS games for a total of $5 (well worth the purchase at Intellivision.us) which includes that game (which he calls Super Series Baseball) and which bypasses the need for the keyboard and uses only controller controls. After adding the parameters --ecs=1 and --voice=1 in jzIntvImGui_2.3.7 I was able to play a full game with David Harley's version on both my PC and my Firestick (Android). There are at least three rom variations of World Series Baseball. The one distributed on Intellivision Lives CD is a smaller 20k version, missing Intellivoice data and meant to be used with the Intellivision Lives emulator. An original cartridge dump version should be the full 24k, the .cfg should include the extra memory locations. And the one attached above, where the rom has been modified so the page banking is intellicart .rom compatible. The memory configuration for the original 24k World Series should look like this. [mapping] $0000 - $1FFF = $5000 $2000 - $2FFF = $D000 [ecsbank] 0: $3000 - $3FFF = $E000 0: $4000 - $4FFF = $F000 1: $5000 - $5FFF = $F000 Edited November 20, 2023 by mr_me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockLobster Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/20/2023 at 12:32 PM, Atari8man2004 said: My Intellivision games now sits on the backbit and I can now put the carts away for good keeping thanks to all of you for the help. I have Coleco's Lady Bug and I know that works on my INTV2 but did your Donkey Kong and Venture work on it somehow? I've come across different lists of which Coleco games worked on the INTV2 and which ones were blocked. To my surprise, Donkey Kong and other Coleco games worked on the Backbit Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 A year and a half later, and I finally got around to using my BackBit Pro. Can someone tell me where I can get the "bin2ecs" utility to convert BIN+CFG roms to the BackBit format so that they support bank-switching, etc.? Is there a Mac OS X version? -dZ,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick3092 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: A year and a half later, and I finally got around to using my BackBit Pro. Can someone tell me where I can get the "bin2ecs" utility to convert BIN+CFG roms to the BackBit format so that they support bank-switching, etc.? Is there a Mac OS X version? -dZ,. https://github.com/evietron/BackBit-Convert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8bitwidgets.com Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) Yep that be it.. . I do not believe there is a mac version available.. I remember having to run parallels to do the conversions. Edited December 26, 2023 by 8bitwidgets.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, nick3092 said: https://github.com/evietron/BackBit-Convert Thanks. Is there a binary for Mac? I tried running the python script and I get an error: dropzone:bin2ecs dz$ ./bin2ecs.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "./bin2ecs.py", line 48, in <module> from pathlib import Path ImportError: No module named pathlib -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick3092 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Thanks. Is there a binary for Mac? I tried running the python script and I get an error: dropzone:bin2ecs dz$ ./bin2ecs.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "./bin2ecs.py", line 48, in <module> from pathlib import Path ImportError: No module named pathlib -dZ. I don't think she's compiled any kind of Mac binary, just windows and python. Looks like you are missing pathlib. Not sure what version of python you have there, but a quick google shows newer versions include it, while you can tell python to insatall it on older versions (I'm not a Mac user, and have very minimal experience with python, so ymmv with what I found): In Python 3.4, pathlib is now part of the standard library. For Python 3.3 and earlier, easy_install pathlib or pip install pathlib should do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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