Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’

[Steven Pendleton]

9 minutes ago, Rev said:

Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain are allegedly getting released on at least Nintendo Switch by Limited Run Games by the developer. 

That's some monkey's paw shit right there for sure considering that it will take like a year and a half for them to ship those after preorders close.

Edited January 7, 2023 by Steven Pendleton

[MrBeefy]

2 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

It's a miracle the Amico didn't outsell the Switch!

Well you got me there!

 

You know, I wonder how many people that were diehard for this console gamed regularly with anyone beyomd themselves? At the family Christmas get together I had one Switch and got at least 12 of us in the action.

 

Don't worry unlike what Tommy would say, it didn't cost thousands to do it. actually it didn't even cost more than $320. It would have cost me over $1000 to do that on Amico.

1 hour ago, Mik's Arcade said:

I'm at least hoping the games can be released on other systems.  They had quite a lot of titles I wanted to play

Well some are already available. Fox n Forest, Ridged Force Redux, Evel Knievel, and Emoji Charades are ones you can buy right now. Dynablasters is listed to come out on every device under the sun. Bomb Squad is also supposedly coming out on other platforms. 

Graviators (space strikers on Amico is hopefully coming out soon on other platforms. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1958540/GRAVIATORS/

Dolphin Quest is suppose to be more more than just Amico. 

 

It is less likely you see any of the Intv specific games, but it isn't like their aren't similar games to them already on the market.

 

If you count them stealing assets then you can also play World of Tanks on other platforms. Same thing with Moon Patrol and Star Fox. 🤣

 

There really is very little reason to have an Amico when a majority of the exclusively not exclusive games are elsewhere. The only ones you are missing are the retro games which you could find a modern version of anyways.

16 minutes ago, Rev said:

Atari announced a new console.  
 

Atari Gamestation. 
 

Where is Amico 2?  

 

 

Our focus testing has shown that soccer dads have loved the Amico 2! It will be the perfect mate for Amico. Just you wait and see what we have in store!

13 minutes ago, Rev said:

Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain are allegedly getting released on at least Nintendo Switch by Limited Run Games by the developer. 

I've heard the same things. While I was interested in seeing Cloudy Mountain, I doubt it's worth the price they will be asking for it. If it's a digital game at $5 then I may pick it up.

[Steven Pendleton]

57 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

You know, I wonder how many people that were diehard for this console gamed regularly with anyone beyomd themselves?

I did. Sample size of 1 person is essentially a useless sample size, but that is how it is in this case.

 

One of my friends used to regularly come to my house to play games prior to him locking himself in his house for a year and a half due to coronavirus. We always used to lament the fact that the only modern local multiplayer games that I had were Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and... well, that was pretty much it and neither of us really wanted to play that, so we ended up mostly playing my Neo Geo AES instead since that system remains the ultimate local multiplayer system to this day. As you can imagine, Amico was a rather attractive system to me at the time, especially given my (still, even now) growing hatred of companies intentionally removing content to sell as DLC at launch and all of that garbage associated with modern games and the system's supposed focus on ensuring that type of thing wouldn't happen.

 

Aforementioned friend has since returned to his home country, sadly, and I still pretty much hate modern games in general, so the only things I really play now are 80s/90s arcade games. Interestingly, things reminiscent of 80s/90s arcade games are that which I was mostly interested in getting on the Amico, as I saw it as essentially a modern host for those types of games, not necessarily exactly like what you'd see on the Neo Geo, but close enough.

[Mik's Arcade]

1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

Well you got me there!

 

You know, I wonder how many people that were diehard for this console gamed regularly with anyone beyomd themselves? At the family Christmas get together I had one Switch and got at least 12 of us in the action.

 

Don't worry unlike what Tommy would say, it didn't cost thousands to do it. actually it didn't even cost more than $320. It would have cost me over $1000 to do that on Amico.

Well some are already available. Fox n Forest, Ridged Force Redux, Evel Knievel, and Emoji Charades are ones you can buy right now. Dynablasters is listed to come out on every device under the sun. Bomb Squad is also supposedly coming out on other platforms. 

Graviators (space strikers on Amico is hopefully coming out soon on other platforms. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1958540/GRAVIATORS/

Dolphin Quest is suppose to be more more than just Amico. 

 

It is less likely you see any of the Intv specific games, but it isn't like their aren't similar games to them already on the market.

 

If you count them stealing assets then you can also play World of Tanks on other platforms. Same thing with Moon Patrol and Star Fox. 🤣

 

There really is very little reason to have an Amico when a majority of the exclusively not exclusive games are elsewhere. The only ones you are missing are the retro games which you could find a modern version of anyways.

Our focus testing has shown that soccer dads have loved the Amico 2! It will be the perfect mate for Amico. Just you wait and see what we have in store!

I've heard the same things. While I was interested in seeing Cloudy Mountain, I doubt it's worth the price they will be asking for it. If it's a digital game at $5 then I may pick it up.

all of this is at least some good news.  I took my refund money and put it towards a Nintendo Switch.  I will happily buy anything that shows up there.  Waiting for Moon Patrol....

[MrBeefy]

4 hours ago, Rowsdower70 said:

They had two I was interested in.  The rest of it was low quality mobile games level crap.  
From my understanding they never had "quite a lot of titles."  Maybe 5 or 6 (being generous) were anything more than a tech demo. 

Tommy was trying to convince people they were going to break the launch games record of PS2 at one point. The guy really should have shut his mouth amd got to work. He obviously could back up all his talk.

2 minutes ago, Mik's Arcade said:

all of this is at least some good news.  I took my refund money and put it towards a Nintendo Switch.  I will happily buy anything that shows up there.  Waiting for Moon Patrol....

When I talked to the wife about the raising price of Amico she told me to buy a Switch. None of the Amico games appealed to her as she's not big into retro games. She knew there were some casual games she would like on Switch.

 

While the Switch has caused me to game the most I have in a long time, she's actually logged more time on the Switch.

 

1 data point but an example as to how goofball didn't know what he was talking about. I think his issue is he took "Oh yes I like casual games I can play with my kids. Oh yes I do not want gore or porn in my games!" As "We love Amico!"

 

This goes back to all that stuff was just talk. It wasn't the actuality and didn't prove it was any of that stuff. Same thing with Guido. There's talk and there's action. All they sold was an idea. As an idea I like it. Actuality of it? No because it isn't what they sold it as. It is as expensive as a Switch, has fewer games, games aren't exclusive, and has fewer options. Fewer option in terms of multiplayer, simple games, indie games, or AAA games.

 

Switch even has arcade and retro games on it if I choose to play it. Amico was dead as soon as they wanted to sell it at $230 (per their pitch deck).

 

If they kept it at $150 and striped it of unnecessary stuff, (leds on console and controller, scrapped stupid controller for NES pad, rfid, one board inside the case instead of at least 4, contact charging) they may have been able to carve out a small niche. At the price they landed on they can't say they aren't competing with the big 3.

[Steven Pendleton]

15 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

Tommy was trying to convince people they were going to break the launch games record of PS2 at one point. The guy really should have shut his mouth amd got to work. He obviously could back up all his talk.

To be fair, the NA PS2 launch library is probably one of the worst in history unless you like generic EA Sports games (exception: SSX is awesome and I really want to see more of them!) and stuff that was already on PC years prior and better there.

[Rev]

50 minutes ago, Mik's Arcade said:

all of this is at least some good news.  I took my refund money and put it towards a Nintendo Switch.  I will happily buy anything that shows up there.  Waiting for Moon Patrol....

Check out the Limited Run Games physical releases of the Atari VCS games. Like Tempest 4000 and Black Widow. 

[Rev]

2 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

Well you got me there!

 

You know, I wonder how many people that were diehard for this console gamed regularly with anyone beyomd themselves? At the family Christmas get together I had one Switch and got at least 12 of us in the action.

 

Don't worry unlike what Tommy would say, it didn't cost thousands to do it. actually it didn't even cost more than $320. It would have cost me over $1000 to do that on Amico.

Well some are already available. Fox n Forest, Ridged Force Redux, Evel Knievel, and Emoji Charades are ones you can buy right now. Dynablasters is listed to come out on every device under the sun. Bomb Squad is also supposedly coming out on other platforms. 

Graviators (space strikers on Amico is hopefully coming out soon on other platforms. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1958540/GRAVIATORS/

Dolphin Quest is suppose to be more more than just Amico. 

 

It is less likely you see any of the Intv specific games, but it isn't like their aren't similar games to them already on the market.

 

If you count them stealing assets then you can also play World of Tanks on other platforms. Same thing with Moon Patrol and Star Fox. 🤣

 

There really is very little reason to have an Amico when a majority of the exclusively not exclusive games are elsewhere. The only ones you are missing are the retro games which you could find a modern version of anyways.

Our focus testing has shown that soccer dads have loved the Amico 2! It will be the perfect mate for Amico. Just you wait and see what we have in store!

I've heard the same things. While I was interested in seeing Cloudy Mountain, I doubt it's worth the price they will be asking for it. If it's a digital game at $5 then I may pick it up.

You forgot the cell phone app ports of Care Bears, Sesame Street, and some other App shovelware “exclusive” Amico games. 

[Tommy2D]

3 hours ago, Rev said:

Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain are allegedly getting released on at least Nintendo Switch by Limited Run Games by the developer. 

That's cool; they looked decent. 

[Wayler]

7 hours ago, mr_me said:

17 hours ago, Rev said:

Do you have time to define scam, pretty please?  

I did comment with things that might get the company in trouble but you weren't paying attention.  Either way, there's no need to repeatedly harass with the same question over and over again.

Gee, have you ever thought that answering the question might resolve this issue? It's really astonishing how people stop asking when they have received the answer. "No, I won't" would also be a direct response. 

 

And just FYI, every person here knows why you won't define a scam and so do you. 

[roots.genoa]

3 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said:

To be fair, the NA PS2 launch library is probably one of the worst in history unless you like generic EA Sports games (exception: SSX is awesome and I really want to see more of them!) and stuff that was already on PC years prior and better there.

Yeah, Fantavision was PS2's Cornhole to some extent! 😅

[MattPilz]

7 hours ago, Rev said:

Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain are allegedly getting released on at least Nintendo Switch by Limited Run Games by the developer. 

Unless this is a super recent development, as of mid-November Mike Mika said there was nothing on the table at all and Night Stalker was never finished. "We want these games to come out, so ideally at some point we'd like to have that conversation of 'let's see what this looks like on all platforms...' we have nothing to announce but if that opportunity comes along we'd love to take it." I don't think a LRG release would help in getting these in the hands of many (I just got my Quake LRG boxset after 15 months.)

  

On 1/5/2023 at 3:03 PM, MrBeefy said:

He's trying to argue that their only marketing done in the retro world is not who it is for. Reality, they marketed it to retro. Retro they haven't marketed it in any realms as much as retro. Reality they pimped their old retro IPs. Reality, look at this old trailer, retro themed and presented at a retro gaming convention. 

Guido has been adamant about that since 2019, but I'm not sure why so fiercely. "Retro reimagined" console is what it's often been referred to including by Tommy and others at Intellivision. In one interview with Tommy he was asked if Amico was mildly successful but only with retro gamers would he be upset and he said: "If retro gamers are the only ones who love it and play it, I'm a happy person. I'm building a machine that I want myself, too."

 

I'm sitting here looking at my stack of physical games, and here are my observations:

 

• They all have cover art designed to mimic the 1980s Intellivision style.
• They all include an RFID card modeled off of the 1980s Intellivision cartridges.
• They all include a token with the 1980s running man graphic embossed.
• They all include lenticular cards, often with trivia throwbacks to the retro originals ("The 1982 original Moon Patrol was the first game to create an illusion of 3D motion via parallax scrolling.")
• Moon Patrol, Dynablaster, Biplanes and Missile Command are all direct remakes from the retro era.
• Rigid Force Redux is described specifically as "Classic shoot'em up action is back!" directly inspired by Gradius and others (recently it was also made available on Android for $2.99.)
• Finnigan Fox (Fox N Forests) is an homage to 16-bit retro platformers: "a nostalgic 16-Bit style action platformer...the golden era of video gaming and the team behind FOX n FORESTS grew up on it."

In Tommy Tallarico's Best Buy interview following the launch of these titles, he specifically emphasized a lot on retro. "we looked at the demographics of who we felt, because these are only the first eight right we're going to be doing a lot more, but the first eight we decided okay you know there's going to be a lot of retro and old school gamers who are watching us now who've already pre-ordered the console already...so we kind of our first ones that came out are really more focused on retro gamers because those are the people who are buying the console already..."

[MrBeefy]

5 hours ago, Rev said:

You forgot the cell phone app ports of Care Bears, Sesame Street, and some other App shovelware “exclusive” Amico games. 

Dag nabbit I knew I had missed some! I can confirm that a lot of the SS games are good kid fun. You can also get some of them through the PBS kids app if you don't want to use the web browser.

 

Brain Duel is an old game too. I don't remember if it is still available.

33 minutes ago, MattPilz said:

Unless this is a super recent development, as of mid-November Mike Mika said there was nothing on the table at all and Night Stalker was never finished. "We want these games to come out, so ideally at some point we'd like to have that conversation of 'let's see what this looks like on all platforms...' we have nothing to announce but if that opportunity comes along we'd love to take it." I don't think a LRG release would help in getting these in the hands of many (I just got my Quake LRG boxset after 15 months.)

  

Guido has been adamant about that since 2019, but I'm not sure why so fiercely. "Retro reimagined" console is what it's often been referred to including by Tommy and others at Intellivision. In one interview with Tommy he was asked if Amico was mildly successful but only with retro gamers would he be upset and he said: "If retro gamers are the only ones who love it and play it, I'm a happy person. I'm building a machine that I want myself, too."

 

I'm sitting here looking at my stack of physical games, and here are my observations:

 

• They all have cover art designed to mimic the 1980s Intellivision style.
• They all include an RFID card modeled off of the 1980s Intellivision cartridges.
• They all include a token with the 1980s running man graphic embossed.
• They all include lenticular cards, often with trivia throwbacks to the retro originals ("The 1982 original Moon Patrol was the first game to create an illusion of 3D motion via parallax scrolling.")
• Moon Patrol, Dynablaster, Biplanes and Missile Command are all direct remakes from the retro era.
• Rigid Force Redux is described specifically as "Classic shoot'em up action is back!" directly inspired by Gradius and others (recently it was also made available on Android for $2.99.)
• Finnigan Fox (Fox N Forests) is an homage to 16-bit retro platformers: "a nostalgic 16-Bit style action platformer...the golden era of video gaming and the team behind FOX n FORESTS grew up on it."

In Tommy Tallarico's Best Buy interview following the launch of these titles, he specifically emphasized a lot on retro. "we looked at the demographics of who we felt, because these are only the first eight right we're going to be doing a lot more, but the first eight we decided okay you know there's going to be a lot of retro and old school gamers who are watching us now who've already pre-ordered the console already...so we kind of our first ones that came out are really more focused on retro gamers because those are the people who are buying the console already..."

They can talk all they want. The evidence is there that it was geared towards retro.

 

Oh don't forget where they posted it in the stores...

It was listed under retro on Gamestop too. Tommy would always talk about how closely he worked with retailers so you know they had the input to put it under retro.

 

Only idiots with wishful magical thinking complexes who believe it otherwise.

1 hour ago, Wayler said:

Gee, have you ever thought that answering the question might resolve this issue? It's really astonishing how people stop asking when they have received the answer. "No, I won't" would also be a direct response. 

 

And just FYI, every person here knows why you won't define a scam and so do you. 

Notice how he can't deny that he approves of child exploitation. 

Best way to enjoy a thread right there.

 

[MrBeefy]

So who thinks it was a good idea to sink $100,000 in Evel Knievel to make the family friendly baseball bat assailant a little thinner?

 

[Tommy2D]

I've said this before but I would consider buying these Amico games, on PC, if they were reasonably priced. 

 

Skiing 

Biplanes 

Astrosmash 

Moon Patrol 

Night Stalker

Cloudy Mountain 

 

 

[Rev]

26 minutes ago, Tommy2D said:

I've said this before but I would consider buying these Amico games, on PC, if they were reasonably priced. 

 

Skiing 

Biplanes 

Astrosmash 

Moon Patrol 

Night Stalker

Cloudy Mountain 

 

 

Even with the plain brown muddy GFX and stolen assets, I still thought the Tank game looks fun.  

[Rev]

Sad, it was only a tech demo and the description eludes to that as well.  
 

Recorded directly from an Amico system?  I dont believe that. 

[MrBeefy]

46 minutes ago, Tommy2D said:

I've said this before but I would consider buying these Amico games, on PC, if they were reasonably priced. 

 

Skiing 

Biplanes 

Astrosmash 

Moon Patrol 

Night Stalker

Cloudy Mountain 

 

 

Look at that healthy list of totally not retro titles! Skiing may have been one of the cleaner looking ones.

10 minutes ago, Rev said:

Sad, it was only a tech demo and the description eludes to that as well.  
 

Recorded directly from an Amico system?  I dont believe that. 

Banana Pi in a shell counts right? None of the Amicos they showed off were production ready hardware. So at best it was prototype stuff that wasn't final and probably only optimized for certain games.

 

As we would later know that wasn't on final hardware as that wasn't done until late 2021 at best. Or a week before DJC and Mullis got theirs. Unless they fins a bug amd have to go through formal formal formal production again.

[Pink]

1 hour ago, Tommy2D said:

I've said this before but I would consider buying these Amico games, on PC, if they were reasonably priced. 

 

Skiing 

Biplanes 

Astrosmash 

Moon Patrol 

Night Stalker

Cloudy Mountain 

 

 

Just type edge://surf/ into Microsoft Edge and you can play a free surf/skiing game (I tihnk they alternate the skin from surfing to skiing and vice versa) It's free, actually exists and probably more fun too.

 

That's the entire issue with Amico, it's all garbage shovelware and you can literally find free very similar games with a <60 second google search. If any of the Amico games get released, I wouldn't even pay 99 cents for them. Heck, I probably wouldn't even add them to my steam library if they were free. If they would've had a much bigger emphasis on making SNES/Genesis style platformers like Earthworm Jim for what was originally supposed to be a $150 console (Or was it $180?) that would've actually been kind of cool and interesting and if it would've had a halfway decent library of decent platformers, could've very been well worth $150-180.

[mr_me]

7 hours ago, MattPilz said:

Guido has been adamant about that since 2019, but I'm not sure why so fiercely. "Retro reimagined" console is what it's often been referred to including by Tommy and others at Intellivision. In one interview with Tommy he was asked if Amico was mildly successful but only with retro gamers would he be upset and he said: "If retro gamers are the only ones who love it and play it, I'm a happy person. I'm building a machine that I want myself, too."

 

I'm sitting here looking at my stack of physical games, and here are my observations:

 

• They all have cover art designed to mimic the 1980s Intellivision style.
• They all include an RFID card modeled off of the 1980s Intellivision cartridges.
• They all include a token with the 1980s running man graphic embossed.
• They all include lenticular cards, often with trivia throwbacks to the retro originals ("The 1982 original Moon Patrol was the first game to create an illusion of 3D motion via parallax scrolling.")
• Moon Patrol, Dynablaster, Biplanes and Missile Command are all direct remakes from the retro era.
• Rigid Force Redux is described specifically as "Classic shoot'em up action is back!" directly inspired by Gradius and others (recently it was also made available on Android for $2.99.)
• Finnigan Fox (Fox N Forests) is an homage to 16-bit retro platformers: "a nostalgic 16-Bit style action platformer...the golden era of video gaming and the team behind FOX n FORESTS grew up on it."

In Tommy Tallarico's Best Buy interview following the launch of these titles, he specifically emphasized a lot on retro. "we looked at the demographics of who we felt, because these are only the first eight right we're going to be doing a lot more, but the first eight we decided okay you know there's going to be a lot of retro and old school gamers who are watching us now who've already pre-ordered the console already...so we kind of our first ones that came out are really more focused on retro gamers because those are the people who are buying the console already..."

The boxed rfid cards are clearly designed for collectors, it says so on each box.  However, their primary target market of families and casual gamers is overwhelmingly likely to purchase games digitally. During development they may have  been talking to retro gamers but ultimately they would have to target a larger audience.  They would need to sell somewhere in the order of a half million consoles or more to be successful. And it would only be a smaller subset of retro gamers that would be interested in remakes rather than the old classics. 

 

It would have been much easier and cheaper for them to put classic retro games on the system but they chose not to. Of the first twenty Amico games on their release list, not including the young children's titles, only five have retro video game titles, three or four more might have retro style gameplay.  Ported games like Finnigan Fox and Rigid Force Redux, for example, were modified to appeal more to families and casual gamers.  They removed the pixel art graphics that many retro gamers would have preferred, made the gameplay easier in Finnigan Fox.  Controls are simplified in Rigid Force Redux and a second player was added that cannot die.  Then you have pure casual games like Back Talk Party, Cornhole, Farkle, Pool, Blank Slate, Emoji Charades, Brain Duel, again for their target audience of casual gamers.  Most of the retro reimagined games are also suited for family and casual gaming.

 

6 hours ago, Rev said:

Sad, it was only a tech demo and the description eludes to that as well.  
 

Recorded directly from an Amico system?  I dont believe that. 

Amico Night Stalker likely runs more efficiently than any other Amico game.  The graphics are all 2D and it was developed using proprietary tools rather than the Unity engine used for developing most other Amico games. 

 

In a recent interview, the developer described this Amico Night Stalker demo as pretty far along with four levels, development has been off and on since.  He also said Cloudy Mountain is done.  He also said at the time he had a dev kit and now has a final unit.

[MattPilz]

49 minutes ago, mr_me said:

The boxed rfid cards are clearly designed for collectors, it says so on each box.

Tommy made it clear these physical boxes would be for "everyone" and "will be able to buy everywhere." He even emphasized that they were in biodegradable packaging, something I never heard anyone else mention in the scope of selling a collectable. The collector indicator on the cover was for the first 50,000 run, but he announced plans for many subsequent runs that'd omit that label while still offering digital enhancements in the Amico UI for all who bought it, and the same physical package.

 

> The  phyical games will be duplicated and reprinted... but not with the "Collector's Edition" markings.  We wanted to make the first print runs a little special by including the "Limited Collector's Edition" on the front covers.

 

49 minutes ago, mr_me said:

They would need to sell somewhere in the order of a half million consoles or more to be successful.

So this quote from Tommy clearly hasn't aged well...

 

“If we sell 100,000 we're high-fiving like crazy. To be frank, if we sell 35,000 or 50,000 units we're totally fine. Our break-even point for the entire project is about 180,000 units, over the lifetime of the thing, to be able to continue doing this for many years. We're going to blow that out of the water. We are very confident,” he remarked."

 

49 minutes ago, mr_me said:

It would have been much easier and cheaper for them to put classic retro games on the system but they chose not to.

But they chose not to even while catering 99% to the retro gamer communities exclusively. I get the hypothetical "in the future" casual gaming talk, but fact is the Amico has barely ever been mentioned anywhere outside of the retro communities. Renewing trademarks specifically to capitalize off of 1980s Intellivision name brand nostalgia and calling it a retro reimagined system but then claiming it isn't a retro console is just shooting its own demographic. I do not personally believe there is any other demographic for this. I don't think any casual audience that already has phones or a television set would gravitate toward this versus any plug-n-play or a Switch. I do think it appeals to the retro crowd, or at least did until other indie consoles and platforms like Evercade came around to fill that intrigue.

Edited January 8, 2023 by MattPilz

[atarifan88]

20 hours ago, Mik&#x27;s Arcade said:

all of this is at least some good news.  I took my refund money and put it towards a Nintendo Switch.  I will happily buy anything that shows up there.  Waiting for Moon Patrol....

I would be surprised if we see the Amico Moon Patrol. In the meantime, you can play this...

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/arcade-archives-moon-patrol-switch/

[atarifan88]

20 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

Tommy was trying to convince people they were going to break the launch games record of PS2 at one point. The guy really should have shut his mouth amd got to work. He obviously could back up all his talk.

When I talked to the wife about the raising price of Amico she told me to buy a Switch. None of the Amico games appealed to her as she's not big into retro games. She knew there were some casual games she would like on Switch.

 

While the Switch has caused me to game the most I have in a long time, she's actually logged more time on the Switch.

 

1 data point but an example as to how goofball didn't know what he was talking about. I think his issue is he took "Oh yes I like casual games I can play with my kids. Oh yes I do not want gore or porn in my games!" As "We love Amico!"

 

This goes back to all that stuff was just talk. It wasn't the actuality and didn't prove it was any of that stuff. Same thing with Guido. There's talk and there's action. All they sold was an idea. As an idea I like it. Actuality of it? No because it isn't what they sold it as. It is as expensive as a Switch, has fewer games, games aren't exclusive, and has fewer options. Fewer option in terms of multiplayer, simple games, indie games, or AAA games.

 

Switch even has arcade and retro games on it if I choose to play it. Amico was dead as soon as they wanted to sell it at $230 (per their pitch deck).

 

If they kept it at $150 and striped it of unnecessary stuff, (leds on console and controller, scrapped stupid controller for NES pad, rfid, one board inside the case instead of at least 4, contact charging) they may have been able to carve out a small niche. At the price they landed on they can't say they aren't competing with the big 3.

You and I have similar stories with the exception that my adult kids decided to buy me a Switch for Father's Day last year. At that point I was all in with the Switch and beyond out with the Amico. I've logged more gaming on the Switch than I have with my retro systems. It's nice because anyone can jump on and play together. We love playing Switch Sports! Even the reimagined retro games are fun as you can play co-op instead of waiting for your turn. Recently I've bought 5 games for $30, which is a steal. It's nice that Nintendo puts their games on sale periodically. I can't imagine the Amico measuring up to the Switch so it worked out better for me anyways...

[jerseystyle]

23 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said:

That's some monkey's paw shit right there for sure considering that it will take like a year and a half for them to ship those after preorders close.

Monkey’s Paw? We’re in talks with the developers and they are very excited about getting involved with Amico. You could make a wish and tap the touchscreen. Wouldn’t that be something?

[MrBeefy]

9 hours ago, MattPilz said:

Tommy made it clear these physical boxes would be for "everyone" and "will be able to buy everywhere." He even emphasized that they were in biodegradable packaging, something I never heard anyone else mention in the scope of selling a collectable. The collector indicator on the cover was for the first 50,000 run, but he announced plans for many subsequent runs that'd omit that label while still offering digital enhancements in the Amico UI for all who bought it, and the same physical package.

 

> The  phyical games will be duplicated and reprinted... but not with the "Collector's Edition" markings.  We wanted to make the first print runs a little special by including the "Limited Collector's Edition" on the front covers.

 

So this quote from Tommy clearly hasn't aged well...

 

“If we sell 100,000 we're high-fiving like crazy. To be frank, if we sell 35,000 or 50,000 units we're totally fine. Our break-even point for the entire project is about 180,000 units, over the lifetime of the thing, to be able to continue doing this for many years. We're going to blow that out of the water. We are very confident,” he remarked."

 

But they chose not to even while catering 99% to the retro gamer communities exclusively. I get the hypothetical "in the future" casual gaming talk, but fact is the Amico has barely ever been mentioned anywhere outside of the retro communities. Renewing trademarks specifically to capitalize off of 1980s Intellivision name brand nostalgia and calling it a retro reimagined system but then claiming it isn't a retro console is just shooting its own demographic. I do not personally believe there is any other demographic for this. I don't think any casual audience that already has phones or a television set would gravitate toward this versus any plug-n-play or a Switch. I do think it appeals to the retro crowd, or at least did until other indie consoles and platforms like Evercade came around to fill that intrigue.

Yup physical games weren't for collectors, but for all that awesome retail space they would have! Basically they probably had a deposit down and a time frame to make them, so they did instead of losing the deposit. They knew there were enough people who would buy them before they could even figure out a launch.

3 hours ago, atarifan88 said:

You and I have similar stories with the exception that my adult kids decided to buy me a Switch for Father's Day last year. At that point I was all in with the Switch and beyond out with the Amico. I've logged more gaming on the Switch than I have with my retro systems. It's nice because anyone can jump on and play together. We love playing Switch Sports! Even the reimagined retro games are fun as you can play co-op instead of waiting for your turn. Recently I've bought 5 games for $30, which is a steal. It's nice that Nintendo puts their games on sale periodically. I can't imagine the Amico measuring up to the Switch so it worked out better for me anyways...

It's a great little device. Have you found porn on it yet? I sure haven't.

2 hours ago, jerseystyle said:

Monkey’s Paw? We’re in talks with the developers and they are very excited about getting involved with Amico. You could make a wish and tap the touchscreen. Wouldn’t that be something?

Intellivision has been wishing for a long time. If they used those years of wishing and turned to doing we'd all have an Amico! Well approximately 7000 would.

 

The CEO speaks. I removed the irrelevant talk from his post.

It's been 3 years and they don't have a production solution. It has been three years and he admits these units that DJC and Mullis have are the only final hardware to be tested. This means they were never ready to make anything in 2020, 2021, nor 2022. Yet the former CEO kept acting like it was a possibility despite NEVER HAVING DONE FINAL TESTING.

 

This is a two year old video but just as relevant today as it was back then.

They should stop making excuses, hiding behind others  and put their big kid pants on.