Fadest Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Yesterday, I made a little experience (again) with JagStudio. My goal was to rework with the tool after last year experiments, and get back a bit to Jag programming. The best way to do so is to work on a tiny prototype, with clear objectives. First, let me explain the differences I make between a game and a game prototype. A game prototype has to be : (barely) playable, its goal is to demonstrate/validate a gameplay idea, a graphical asset, or whatever you want to check if it can work or not, and don't want to spend weeks on it to know. It will of course not be as good as a full game, the code can be crappy, there is no optimisation in assets or code (will come back to this point later) So once this point is cleared (do no expect a full game in this first iteration), let's start the journey. It all started with a mail received from itch.io on tuesday, that I have read only yesterday morning : Ansimuz is a great artist, providing free and paid assets for developpers on itch.io. And sometimes, he creates simple games to showcase his assets. It was the case in this release which includes 'nearly) all needed stuff : - background - sprites - sound effects (in WAV) - background music (in ogg or WAV) - Godot source code The game is fun, reminds a bit Joust, Flappy bird & co I played a bit the game, thought it would be nice to use assets for a Jag prototype, noted some ideas, and downloaded the asset archive. So let's start the hard fun work Preliminary point: I work in C, but most of the tutorial is suitable to Basic & ASM. Only the gameplay code will have to be adapted to your selected language. Of course, every assets and declarations/source file is included in the archive. Just unzip it inside your JagStudio/projects/c folder For obvious reasons, I do not distribute ansimuz original archive, you can find it at his itch.io page. 1st step: creating the project You obviously need Jagstudio to be installed on your computer, if you have not do it already, go and get it on JagStudio (reboot-games.com) . I won't comment this point as this is quite straightforward, and there are already lot of topics covering this. Open a script command tool (DOS/Powershell/...) and navigate inside the JagStudio folder To create a new project called "flappyChicken" in C, you need to type : build.bat flappyChicken newc Then, when you will want to test your game, your will just have to type one of this command, depending on your setup (Virtual Jaguar, Jag GD or Skunkboard) build.bat flappyChicken to launch game with Virtual Jaguar build.bat flappyChicken jaggd to launch game on a connected Jag GD build.bat flappyChicken skunk to launch game on a connected Skunkboard If everything is correct, the project is compiled, and the game starts automatically on selected device. 2nd step: working on graphical assets Ansimuz provides his assets in png format, with alpha layer for transparency, and use different spritesheets for each elements. Here are the main assets files provided : Each file is color indexed. To be honest, I don't know if Jagstudio can handle them directly, I prefer to work with my own habitudes, so it means BMP format, and for sprites, transparent color is color 0 in the palet. So this means a bit of rework. It also has the advantage of letting me know how much colors each asset use. On color number, ansimuz usually do a great optimisation job, let's check the main title screen : During the conversion process, I also reput spritesheet in vertical format. Don't know if this is really mandatory for JagStudio but I think it is (looking at how we describe assets later), and I find it more convenient. So here is typical before/after asset spritesheet file : Pink is for transparency. Note the crappy work in palette (after all, this is just a prototype) Once every assets have been converted (side note, there were no spritesheets for eggs, so I created one based on individuals sprites ansimuz is also providing), I put them in my <project folder>/assets/gfx folder : I also created a dead_chicken.bmp file which is barely the first chicken sprite with a vertical mirror (when player dies) that was not included (Godot probably has a vertical mirror option) 3nd step: working on SFX & musical assets Nothing special here, I just took the .wav sound effects from ansimuz "Godot Project/Audio" folder and putted them in my assets/sfx folder For music, I downloaded a mod file and putted it inside assets/music folder. I chosed a very old MOD from dms-sc : Rainbows Factory [dma-sc music factory] works (atari.org) dma-sc was kind enough to let me include this mod inside this tutorial 4th step: setting up project Now, the real work inside Jagstudio is about to start. All we need is a text editor (I am using Visual Studio Code, but there are many other great tools, just chose the one you are more efficient with) There are 6 files that we will have to edit in order to make our prototype : First thing, we need to decide if we go with Zerosquare player or U235 player for music/SFX pay routines, but also jagpad routines (as this is done by DSP, this part in included inside the player) There is no good or bad choice, I guess it is up to everyone to test and choose. I personnally use U235 for this project, so I had to edit rapapp.s to declare U235 player (on line 10) : DO NOT TOUCH SOMETHING ELSE IN THIS FILE, AND SAVE IT 5th step: declaring assets files used by the projet So, in steps 2 & 3, we prepared our graphical, SFX and musical assets. Now it is time to tell Jagstudio where to find them, and also give some informations about them. Open assets.txt in your text editor : As you can see, there is 1 line per asset, and depending on type of asset, the declaration will differ. The assets file by default is self-explanatory, but remember this for graphical assets : If you use color indexed files, you must use gfx_clut, otherwise, you use gfx_noclut Save the file 6th step: SFX assets - declaring objects As I use U235, I have to declare every SFX asset inside the rapu235.s file this is the bank of samples. For each sample, I need to create a bloc, with the sample tag (I just numeroted them from sample0 to sample5 as I have 6 samples) and a tag for volume (can be usefull if we want to change it during the game). Once again, I used s0_vol to s5_vol In code, I just have to call the routine : u235PlaySampleFreq(4,1,8000) to play on voice 4 the sample n°1 (death.wav) with a replay routine of 8000hz 7th step: graphical assets - declaring music Nothing special to do, the MOD replay routine will be called in code by: u235PlayModule((int)STRPTR(MOD_ROCK),MOD_STEREO); u235ModuleVol(32); 8th step: graphical assets - declaring objects list Here is starting the real conception work. And here is where prototyping a game is different from thinking of a real game. My goal is to get quickly a satisfying visual aspect. I don't really care about memory consumption or optimisation (I mean I do not really care but I want the prototype to remains playable...) The objects list is declared inside rapinit.s which is the main file of JagStudio. The difference between a well thought and defined rapinit.s and a badly done can be very important on the fianl game result. So you need to think about it very carefully. But first, I think I should barely explain what is the list and object list. When you want to display something on screen, you send the Jaguar video processor a list of objects, and this list is processed in order. So first object is displayed, then 2nd one and so on. So you can see it as a stack. The last object is displayed on top of the other ones and can of course hide them. An object is a sprite. It can be of whatever size you want, it also has some attributes, like position on screen, visible/not visible, mirrored or not, zoom, and so on. JagStudio also add other properties like automated movements, automated animations, collisions, life point management, ... Once again, as we are working on a tiny prototype, let's keep the object list simple. We need to display a background (obviously) and sprites. Also maybe some informations like number of life or score. First gameplay decisions: All ennemies (chicks, bomb) will move only on 6 possible lines If we collide with a bomb, it explodes and we lose a life If we collide with a chick from top (jump on head, like in joust), it collapses and an egg is created If we collide with a chick from bottom, we close a life If we catch an egg, we get some rewards So for sprites, we have on screen: our chicken chicks: I decided to put them on 6 lines, and 3 chicks per lines max (so 18 sprites) bombs: 1 per line (so 6 bombs) eggs: 1 egg can be created per chick, so 18 eggs on screen max eventually, dead chicken falling while we are playing next life eventually bombs explosions Eggs management is a choice to make. It could be probably better to just change the chick sprite by an egg one, and change setup of movement. Would also require to keep trace of kind of sprite displayed (egg or chick) when collision occur as management is different. So a bit more complexity in code. So, as this is a prototype, I choosed the most convenient solution: I consider they are different objects (so 18 chicks + 18 eggs). Can't tell which solution is the best (or if there is a better solution), just choosed the easier for me in a limited time. Same for bombs vs bombs explosion. As we can collide with bombs but not with explosion, it is better to manage them in different objects. So he is what my object list looks like: 2 x background (as bg.bmp does not cover the whole screen, I need to display it twice) 18 x eggs 18 x chicks 6 x bombs 1 x title screen (we obviously need a title screen - as it is putted here in the list, it will hide all previous sprites at no cost) 1 x chicken (also used as selector on main title) 1 x dead chicken (this is not optimised to put it here, as when you lose a game, it still fall on title screeen, after all, this is nice unwanted effect - easy to correct) 6 x bombs explosion (idem) Text/particle layer (stand from JagStudio, allow to display information on screen - once again, maybe better to put it before title screen ,as it remains displayed after death) This has to be configured inside rapini.s You will notice rapini.s has a lot a comments Each type of object in my object list has to be defined in 1 bloc in rapini.s (thankfully, the 18 chicks objects do not need 18 declaration but only 1 ) Here is the background bloc as example: As you can see, there is a lot of informations. Also, on the right of each data, there is the Raptor (the libray under JagStudio) name, this will be very usefull when we will start to code) between value and description, there are also the possible values, also very useful in code. I suggest you to read the documentation, but here is a little overwiew Now, let start to describe a bit this definition list. First we define the number of objects with the same description to create The object can be active (visible) or inactive (not visible) Then we define the position x,y (also with subpixel if needed), and automatic offsets to move in x & y We give Jagstudio the size of 1 sprite (not the spritesheet if it has many sprite, but a single sprite) Then display mode : normal or horizontal flip Collision informations will be describe later the adress of the graphical assets (remember, it is the name we used in assets.txt) display mode : we have 16 colors files, so 4bits, in RGB Opaque for background, and transparent for sprite (index 0 of the palette in transparent for color indexed sprites - the pink in our assets) Then we have some byte size deplarations and calculations. It is to help Raptor display sprites and manage animations. This is quite straightforward. I usually keep my sprite size and divide by the correct number depending on bits of the filte type, rather than making calculations by hand. Here, we have a 192pixels x 240pixels sprites in 4bits (so divided by 2) Animations informations, tells how many frame to wait between 2 aprites, how many additional sprites to use in asset file, and what Raptor must do with the object once animation is ended (loop or once). Tells Raptor what to do with objects when they go out of the screen (wrap to the opposite side or kill). Beware, killing means the object status will be incative automatically, and so will no more be displayed. Also possible to define a more complex movement via a tracking table Zoom informations The R_sprite_was_hit will be very important in code when using automatic collision, wil come back to it later clut is the palet description to use for color indexed objects. As every asset can have a different palet (limited by number of available palet), we have to tell each object which clut to use (will see more about it later in the code section) Once again, some collision informations, and how the object must react after collision (raptor can manage automatically life points, and kill object when they have 0 point) Lest information is probably when you manage your spritesheet horizontally So we just saw that JagStudio can manage collisions. Do we need them in our prototype : YES The player can collide with : chicks / bombs / eggs So for each of those object, we must setup the collision data First, we need to define the collision box. By default, it use center point of sprite as base, then definf a rectangle shape. I used 10x10 pixel here. Of course, we must define object as can_hit. I don't want JagStudio to remove automatically object or manage life points in this prototype (but it works very well - just easier to do by hand when debugging) Here we are with the rapini.s file. As said before, this is probably the main point to apprehend when learning Jagstudio. But it is also a real time-saver when you manage to use it efficiently. 9th step - the code Have you noticed ? We have write no line of code yet, but if you run your project, you should have the title screen displayed... Jagstudio create a template for code that displays object list (so title screen + chicken in front of play if you look carefully rapini.s and also a bit of text) But now, it is time to code our prototype. As I said before, this is in C, but a really basic C, so probably easy to convert in Basic (and I think ASM coders do not need me to do this kind of job) First thing to do, and to ease life is to declare the object list inside the code. I usually put them in common.h So now, if I want to adress the chicken object, i can use CHICKEN instead of 45 And if I change my object list, I just need to change this 45 value by the correct one instead of going though the whole code to do so I won't comment all the code. Just note it is ugly, and not something to base your future work on (please make a real conception before starting to code) unless you want to make a quick & dirty prototype of course. I tried to include lots of comments (for me) inside the code I will just comment here some important points related to JagStudio First of all, there is this inside the basicmain() procedure (main C routine) It initialise the differents clut with the objects palets Jagstudio retrieved from the graphical assets files. These values (from 0 to 5) have to be associated in rapini.s to the corresponding objects in order to display them with the correct palet. Note that ansimuz only use 4-6 colors per spritesheet, so it could be easy to associate different spritesheets with the same palet (just combine them) in order to limit number of palet. There is no need here as we only need 6 clut over a limit of 16 IIRC Also initialise the 2 backgrounds (remember, bg.bmp is smaller than a screen, wo we need to display it twice) one for all. You see we can adress the rapini.s structure element with the sprite[] array Remember the Raptor names inside rapini.s tagged as R_sprite_<property> ? We can adress them with sprite[<number>].property Also, we can use the Raptor predefined value (is_flipped, is_normal, ...) just by adding R_ in front of them, for example, how to set a sprite as active and flipped: sprite[CHICKEN+1].active = R_is_active; // active dead chicken object sprite[CHICKEN+1].flip = R_is_flipped; // set directionas flipped The main gameplay is done in the game() procedure Nothing really fancy, I think comments will be useful. Just note that the flapping and jumping gameplay is really miles away from standard process (no inerty, no acceleration due to gravity, only +1 or -3). As said before, it is enough for a prototype, but not for a real game. Just a focus on collisions : As said before, we need to declare objects as can_hit in rapini.s and define a collision box. But JagStudio will not automatically check collision, you need to call the rapCollide procedure rapCollide (CHICKEN,CHICKEN,CHICKS,CHICKS+18); // call collision routine between chicken (only) and the 18 chick It takes 4 parameters : objects list to test 1 - start number objects list to test 1 - end number objects list to test 2 - start number objects list to test 2 - end number So it will make collision tests between every object insed the "objects list to test 1 - start to end number" and the "objects list to test 2 - start to end number" Here, as I want to test my main character sprite with the 18 chicks, I declare CHICKEN as start and end of list 1, and CHICKS and CHICKS+18 as start and end of list 2 If Jagstudio detects a collision, it will set the was_hit property at 1, in order to let me know. I manually reset the value to -1, but I am not sure it is really useful OK, this is a very long post, I hope someone wil find some useful informations in it. You can also just download the archive and try the rom inside flappyChicken.zip Edited January 18, 2023 by Fadest multiple typos... 14 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Great job, this is a very helpful tutorial for anyone who wants to get started with Jagstudio. It explains very well the specifics of the engine that I struggled with when I looked at it the first time! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Mag Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Nicely detailed,thank you Fadest 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkdue Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) This is really awesome...thanks so much. I am having a go at manipulating the code to help me understand it. My thinking is that if i change the number of bombs in rapinit.s this should control how many are in the game? If i change it to 1 i still see 6 bombs when i build the program. What am i missing? Thanks Edited January 18, 2023 by mdkdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) That was well said, but there are still some typos that you didn't get the first time. Update: @CyranoJ mentioned that you can use HWIDTH if you want to use horizontal strip spritesheets. Edited January 18, 2023 by SlidellMan Quick update. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, mdkdue said: This is really awesome...thanks so much. I am having a go at manipulating the code to help me understand it. My thinking is that if i change the number of bombs in rapinit.s this should control how many are in the game? If i change it to 1 i still see 6 bombs when i build the program. What am i missing? Thanks It could if my code was clever (ie not using fixed values) Right now, I am using 6 as fixed number of bombs in the code. If you want to change it for more bombs: You have to change in common.h the offset for elements (as obviously, TITRE, CHICKEN & BOMBS_EXPLOSION value will change as they are the offset of the first element of this kind in the object list defined in rapini.s) In flappyChicken.c, you would have to change theses lines (twice in the the code) : for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+6;i++ as they consider there are 6 and only 6 bombs. Also, you probably would have to change the y definition sprite[i].y_ = 40+32*(i-BOMBS); // - y position depends on sprite number (1 bomb per line / 6 lines) as it would be off screen for bombs n°7, 8 and so on (or in fact would cycle them around the screen, so they would retart from top but on another line offset) And of course tell rapCollide that there are more than 6 bombs to consider for collision rapCollide (CHICKEN,CHICKEN,BOMBS,BOMBS+6); // call collision routine between chicken (only) and the 6 bombs Other points, you should also declare the same potential number of boms explosion than the number of bombs... If you want to change it for less bombs: Just keep the 6 value in rapini.s, the best way is to set objects as inactive while initialisation. So in flappyChicken.c, for example, if you want only 2 bombs, add a first loop to inactivate all bombs, then activate only the desired one // initialise bombs for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+6;i++) sprite[i].active = R_is_inactive; // put all bombs as inactive for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+2;i++) // Only activate 2 bombs { sprite[i].active = R_is_active; // - all are visible in prototype (set some as inactive for easier mode) sprite[i].was_hit = -1; // - reset collision status sprite[i].x_ = rand()%320; // - x position is random sprite[i].y_ = 40+32*(i-BOMBS); // - y position depends on sprite number (1 bomb per line / 6 lines) if (sprite[i].x_ < 160) { sprite[i].flip = R_is_normal; // for sprites on the left side of screen, move to the right sprite[i].xadd_ = 2; } else { sprite[i].flip = R_is_flipped; // for sprites on the right side of screen, move to the left sprite[i].xadd_ = -2; } } No need to change the bomb management routine, it will check against the 6 bombs, but as we have put some of them as inative, it is not an issue. Better option would be to define meta informations for level (n° of chicks, n° of bombs, starting positions, move template...) and use them for initialising each level. This is what I will probably do if I put a little more effort in this for a ROM public release. Edited January 18, 2023 by Fadest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkdue Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fadest said: It could if my code was clever (ie not using fixed values) Right now, I am using 6 as fixed number of bombs in the code. If you want to change it for more bombs: You have to change in common.h the offset for elements (as obviously, TITRE, CHICKEN & BOMBS_EXPLOSION value will change as they are the offset of the first element of this kind in the object list defined in rapini.s) In flappyChicken.c, you would have to change theses lines (twice in the the code) : for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+6;i++ as they consider there are 6 and only 6 bombs. Also, you probably would have to change the y definition sprite[i].y_ = 40+32*(i-BOMBS); // - y position depends on sprite number (1 bomb per line / 6 lines) as it would be off screen for bombs n°7, 8 and so on (or in fact would cycle them around the screen, so they would retart from top but on another line offset) And of course tell rapCollide that there are more than 6 bombs to consider for collision rapCollide (CHICKEN,CHICKEN,BOMBS,BOMBS+6); // call collision routine between chicken (only) and the 6 bombs Other points, you should also declare the same potential number of boms explosion than the number of bombs... If you want to change it for less bombs: Just keep the 6 value in rapini.s, the best way is to set objects as inactive while initialisation. So in flappyChicken.c, for example, if you want only 2 bombs, add a first loop to inactivate all bombs, then activate only the desired one // initialise bombs for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+6;i++) sprite[i].active = R_is_inactive; // put all bombs as inactive for (i=BOMBS;i<BOMBS+2;i++) // Only activate 2 bombs { sprite[i].active = R_is_active; // - all are visible in prototype (set some as inactive for easier mode) sprite[i].was_hit = -1; // - reset collision status sprite[i].x_ = rand()%320; // - x position is random sprite[i].y_ = 40+32*(i-BOMBS); // - y position depends on sprite number (1 bomb per line / 6 lines) if (sprite[i].x_ < 160) { sprite[i].flip = R_is_normal; // for sprites on the left side of screen, move to the right sprite[i].xadd_ = 2; } else { sprite[i].flip = R_is_flipped; // for sprites on the right side of screen, move to the left sprite[i].xadd_ = -2; } } No need to change the bomb management routine, it will check against the 6 bombs, but as we have put some of them as inative, it is not an issue. Better option would be to define meta informations for level (n° of chicks, n° of bombs, starting positions, move template...) and use them for initialising each level. This is what I will probably do if I put a little more effort in this for a ROM public release. Brilliant explanation, thank you so much. I am going to test this out and see how i go One other question, how would you make the chicks and bombs regenerate once they are all gone? Edited January 18, 2023 by mdkdue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) You want a kind of infinite game ? Right now, the gameloop ends if the 18 chicks are gone. So you would have to remove this test. And add code to regenerate chicks. It depends of the gameplay option you choose, you could : respawn a chick each time the player catch an egg: it is probably the easiest solution, just set corresponding chick to is_active when you set the egg to is_inactive (so just the reverse of what is done when an eg pop_up). No need to set x,y and xadd as they are already done, the chick would just spawn at the position it has been destroyed (or set x to a value outside screen to make it enter) add a timer to inactive chicks and respawn them... better gameplay option in my opinion: add a timer to eggs, and after a while, respawn the chick (like a new birth). This is something I plan to add (you need to catch the egg soon enough, otherwise, the chick reappears). This is also compatible with the current end game (you just have to compare with eggs catched to end game instead of chicks destroyed). But be careful, this would broke the crappy code part I commented as "do not do this at home". As the chicks would not be on the same line... For bombs, just check inactive bombs, and set them to active after a timer or with a random test. One easy thing to do with bombs is also to change their direction, vertical instead of horizontal for example. In the initialise bomb part, replace sprite[i].xadd_ by sprite[i].yadd_ (edit - I have just tested, it is not fun ) Edited January 18, 2023 by Fadest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkdue Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Fadest said: You want a kind of infinite game ? Right now, the gameloop ends if the 18 chicks are gone. So you would have to remove this test. And add code to regenerate chicks. It depends of the gameplay option you choose, you could : respawn a chick each time the player catch an egg: it is probably the easiest solution, just set corresponding chick to is_active when you set the egg to is_inactive (so just the reverse of what is done when an eg pop_up). No need to set x,y and xadd as they are already done, the chick would just spawn at the position it has been destroyed (or set x to a value outside screen to make it enter) add a timer to inactive chicks and respawn them... better gameplay option in my opinion: add a timer to eggs, and after a while, respawn the chick (like a new birth). This is something I plan to add (you need to catch the egg soon enough, otherwise, the chick reappears). This is also compatible with the current end game (you just have to compare with eggs catched to end game instead of chicks destroyed). But be careful, this would broke the crappy code part I commented as "do not do this at home". As the chicks would not be on the same line... For bombs, just check inactive bombs, and set them to active after a timer or with a random test. One easy thing to do with bombs is also to change their direction, vertical instead of horizontal for example. In the initialise bomb part, replace sprite[i].xadd_ by sprite[i].yadd_ (edit - I have just tested, it is not fun ) I was thinking more simply, if you clear the screen of chicks and eggs and still have lives left it just regenerates everything (bombs, chicks) so you can keep going till all lives are lost? Is that easier maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 So you should put the initialise eggs and chicken and initialise bombs inside an init() procedure And call it a beginning of game, and when you detect screen is cleared of eggs & chicks. Just be careful, as it done now, it would respawn in middle of screen, not sure it is what you want (would have to change the initial coordinate setup) I also found a bug in my code, and use of rapCollide() (and also explanations in 1st post, but I can't edit it anymore) The explanation is correct (it takes from start number to end number). But, when you have 18 chicks to test, you must make CHICKS+17 (as 1st value is consider as 0, so 0 to 17 = 18 values). Stupid coder Quote rapCollide (CHICKEN,CHICKEN,CHICKS,CHICKS+17); // call collision routine between chicken (only) and the 18 chick It takes 4 parameters : objects list to test 1 - start number objects list to test 1 - end number objects list to test 2 - start number objects list to test 2 - end number So it will make collision tests between every object insed the "objects list to test 1 - start to end number" and the "objects list to test 2 - start to end number" Here, as I want to test my main character sprite with the 18 chicks, I declare CHICKEN as start and end of list 1, and CHICKS and CHICKS+18 as start and end of list 2 If Jagstudio detects a collision, it will set the was_hit property at 1, in order to let me know. I also find it more enjoyable is you set bomb move speed at +1 or -1 I also corrected the crappy part, I will probably repush a new sourcecode, probably tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkdue Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fadest said: So you should put the initialise eggs and chicken and initialise bombs inside an init() procedure And call it a beginning of game, and when you detect screen is cleared of eggs & chicks. Just be careful, as it done now, it would respawn in middle of screen, not sure it is what you want (would have to change the initial coordinate setup) I also found a bug in my code, and use of rapCollide() (and also explanations in 1st post, but I can't edit it anymore) The explanation is correct (it takes from start number to end number). But, when you have 18 chicks to test, you must make CHICKS+17 (as 1st value is consider as 0, so 0 to 17 = 18 values). Stupid coder I also find it more enjoyable is you set bomb move speed at +1 or -1 I also corrected the crappy part, I will probably repush a new sourcecode, probably tomorrow Thank you for this. I really appreciate your detailed explanations. I actually have zero coding experience and am learning everything from scratch which is very daunting. I tend to find things make more sense to me if I have something to reference, such as your code, that I can manipulate. I change and add things and see if it works. For me this is how I learn best. I have no idea how to do an init procedure so will study your code and see if it has one for reference. Thank you Edited January 18, 2023 by mdkdue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Excellent. C'mon folks, jump onboard and make something! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 9:26 AM, SlidellMan said: That was well said, but there are still some typos that you didn't get the first time. Update: @CyranoJ mentioned that you can use HWIDTH if you want to use horizontal strip spritesheets. I actually meant to say gwidth, and you can also write a proper sprite table with each sprite having an index. @Fadest This looks like something you can look into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Thanks, yes, gwidth should work, you just need to set the gfxbase accordingly to start adress + id of sprite*size of a line sprite, but from my understanding, RAPTOR API is the underlying API of JagStudio, and CJ explicitely say vertically is the way he choosed for RAPTOR API And it makes sense if you look at animation & R_sprite_framesz (size of byte to load next sprite in animation), it is the size of 1 sprite line multiply by number of lines. So referring to my very old Atari ST/68000 ASM memory, it seems to me it is done for maximum performance, so spritesheet should be vertical (ie the width of sprite sheet = the width of 1 sprite) if you want to use it, and RAPTOR "just" have to add the size of a sprite in bytes to the file pointer to get next sprite. Putting them horizontal even in JagStudio seems to be possible with gwidth, but I am not sure automatic animations could be done via RAPTOR API. Maybe by setting framesz with same value than gwidth should be enough... if framesz is only used via the animation routine, and not by something else. If it does not work, this would means setting the graphical pointer manually at each frame (not a big deal, after all, this is what I used to do when I used the SebRMV libraries - putting all sprites adress inside an array to access them, but when things can be done hidden and optimised, it is still better) So probably it would work, I don't know, my mind says maximum performance with Jagstudio/Raptor API is via using vertical spritesheet (if you need automatic animation, or easy way to jump to a given sprite frame without storing each sprite adress or rewriting internal Raptor routines), and I am too lazy to test other method... I guess it depends which part of the API you want to use, if you don't care for animations (for items spritesheet for example), putting them horizontal can make sense. You can also put the sprite where you want in the bitmap file, you just need to know how to calculate the offset from the start of the file in bytes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric M Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Great job, Thanks Il va vraiment falloir que je m'y mette 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Merci Eric. Can't wait for Do The Same on Jaguar More seriously, I think Where Is It? could be fun on Jag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 If you set the sprite sheet width as gwidth and the sprite size and dwidth to the width of the sprite it should work horizontally although I haven't tested it. Note the sprites animate last to first frame, so store them in reverse order. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Thanks for the clarification, Cyrano. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric M Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Thanks to Reboot for this great piece of tool Thanks to Fadest for its tuto I just did a test. I'm a bit confused but the compilation works! However, I think it is not the correct output... strange (see screenshot) This is my very first test on Jaguar I continue to search see you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Welcome! Feel free to ask away in another thread, or joing the AtariJaguarFans discord where we have a channel for JagStudio! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmOneGarand Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 On 5/7/2023 at 6:17 PM, Eric M said: Thanks to Reboot for this great piece of tool Thanks to Fadest for its tuto I just did a test. I'm a bit confused but the compilation works! However, I think it is not the correct output... strange (see screenshot) This is my very first test on Jaguar I continue to search see you Have you tried running the binaries in BigPEmu? Sometimes it something going wrong with Virtual Jag from what I've encountered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric M Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Hi I don't know why but when I start command prompt in adm mode, it compiles and... I can play 🤔👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ZeroPage Homebrew Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 ZeroPage Homebrew is playing Flappy Chicken on tomorrow's ZPH stream LIVE on Twitch, hope you can join us! Tue Jul 25, 2023 | LIVE @ 6PM PT | 9PM ET | 1AM GMT+1Day WATCH LIVE: https://www.twitch.tv/zeropagehomebrew/WATCH LATER: https://youtube.com/zeropagehomebrew/ Games: Backlash (2023 Exclusive Premiere | Jag) by Lawrence Staveley @CyranoJ Encounter! (2023 Exclusive Premiere | Jag) by Lawrence Staveley @CyranoJ Block'em Sock'em (2023 | Jag) by Second Dimension / Reboot / Lawrence Staveley @CyranoJ (Code) / Roald Strauss (Music) / J. Leal (Graphics) / John Hancock @swlovinist Flappy Chicken (2023 WIP | Jag) by Frédéric Descharmes @Fadest (Code) / ansimuz (Graphics & Sound Effects) / dma-sc (Music) WATCH AT 1080P FOR BEST QUALITY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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