TwoShedsWilson Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 12:37 PM, Gemintronic said: I suspect fans will find a way to transplant the OS to new hardware before Atari gambles on an actual VCS 2. This has already happened. I'm trying to figure out how to add drivers (I really haven't put much effort into it honestly), but it is working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 8:27 PM, MrBeefy said: Adventure vs Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom I honestly have more fun playing Adventure 1 & 2 than I ever did Zelda. Slicing every bush looking for something got annoying. Breath of the wild had some good ideas, but was mostly boring. Haven't bothered getting Tears of the Kingdom... but having a blast playing Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 8:38 PM, bluenomadgaming said: Ouch. That is a terrible loss. I didn’t know it was that terrible. The VCS is a boondoggle that cost the company a chunk of change. My idea is It is already there though. The VCS exist. Payed out the booty for. It has more game than any other system than the 2600. It is still going. So can they do something with this system to make it less of a loss. Goodness, I hope so. I still say that continuing to support it will help. Making it a retro hub will help too. It won’t make money but the loss is already there. What can it do for them now? They need to figure out overseas distribution. With it only selling in the USA... the place that stopped giving a crap about Atari since the 5200's release... they were far more successful in other places after the debacle of 2600 Pac-Man. By the time the Jaguar came out people thought Atari had stopped making things, and only knew of the 2600 because their parents had one... Atari also had just enough delays to then get caught in the mother of delays that affected everyone. Had they announced their plans to get back into the game like 3-6 months before release, didn't do an IndieGoGo campaign, and did a world wide distribution, maybe, just maybe, they would have had a shot... the timing was right to slide in before the next gen (which is frankly lackluster as far as the trickle of games that truly benefit from new hardware). Unfortunately with years of delays (not all their own fault), and lack of world wide sales... they are kind of screwed. Pretty sure the Atari name is cursed. Much like Commodore. The actual hardware itself is quite good, it is open so even if Atari fails, and no new games come out for it, it will be more useful than when say a PS3 can't log into a PSN account. That will become a loud bluray player at that point. Hell, an Atari VCS can be upgraded more than a modern macbook... where you are stuck with what you buy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, leech said: I honestly have more fun playing Adventure 1 & 2 than I ever did Zelda. Slicing every bush looking for something got annoying. Breath of the wild had some good ideas, but was mostly boring. Haven't bothered getting Tears of the Kingdom... but having a blast playing Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom. And yet Zelda has around 20 games now, and Adventure has officially 2? And that's being generous with saying there are two games in the series. I wouldn't consider homebrews as official entries. Are we counting the 5200 or Flashback 2 one? On a side note the EMR series make playing Adventure boring. One of my favorite homebrews. As far as Zelda goes, Wind Waker is underrated and Ocarina is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, leech said: Slicing every bush looking for something got annoying. I've never played a Zelda where you have to do that, but whatever. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo graphics 220 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 They should call it the Atari Jaguar 3. As for them losing $10m on the system, well thats not my problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Seems like set top boxes are out of style. Remember the Nvidia Shield handheld, tablet, and TV box? It did everything the VCS could do and more but they haven’t seen fit to make a new one. That’s a much bigger/stronger company than Atari and I assume they know something about what will make them money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) IMHO, Atari should just license a PC OEM company to make & sell Atari branded mini PCs with Ryzen chips. It's just easier to slap a Fuji logo and woodgrain on an existing design then to waste money doing custom cases & motherboards. That way there would be more to ship out and sell through Amazon or whatever. (Still include Atari OS but maybe add an option for an additional SSD with Windows or Ubuntu). Since currently Atari has better luck with licesencing than actual manufacturing, just go with that instead... Edited August 10, 2023 by MrMaddog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Helper Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 They should just issue an Atari Linux with the store built in 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Flojomojo said: Seems like set top boxes are out of style. Remember the Nvidia Shield handheld, tablet, and TV box? It did everything the VCS could do and more but they haven’t seen fit to make a new one. That’s a much bigger/stronger company than Atari and I assume they know something about what will make them money. Look what you can do with the latest iterations of the Firestick and Chromecast. They're pretty much on par with what the Shield TV could offer - in terms of games and media streaming at least - but you'll get change from fifty bucks, and sales that take the prices even lower aren't uncommon. It's nigh impossible for anyone who isn't in the business of selling their own streaming services to compete with them though. There just isn't room to get any margin worth speaking of on the hardware. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyindrew Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Here is a radical thought. Suppose in the future Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo bought Atari. Imagine an Atari inspired variant of the next gen X Box console. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 This is my reckless speculation... the Atari store will be ported over to other platforms like Windows and Linux. This will likely be later, rather than sooner. There are so many mini-PCs out there. This seems to be the hot new trend. They could release Atari OS so people can roll their own Atari box out of these mini-PCs. Atari could also establish a partnership with one of these manufacturers and do a limited Atari VCS 2 run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Gunther said: Now that’s a teaser! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Possibly the Polymega Remix 2600/7800. Tomorrow cannot come sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX-1138 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Gunther said: Possibly the Polymega Remix 2600/7800. Tomorrow cannot come sooner. It's clear what it is, they're SHOWING it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, THX-1138 said: It's clear what it is, they're SHOWING it. There's no indication that it has anything to do with Polymega, unless you can see things others are missing. Only ATARI's logo is shown... Edited August 21, 2023 by Gunther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX-1138 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gunther said: There's no indication that it has anything to do with Polymega, unless you can see things others are missing. Only ATARI's logo is shown... Correct. It is not a Polymega and Atari's logo IS shown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, THX-1138 said: Correct. It is not a Polymega and Atari's logo IS shown... What is it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, THX-1138 said: It's clear what it is, they're SHOWING it. All I see is a gadget with weird 1970's style levers, a woodgrained panel with an Atari logo and some kind of cartridge like thing sticking out, no idea what it could be... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you will, but I'll wait for an announcement as to what it actually is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt_B said: Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you will, but I'll wait for an announcement as to what it actually is. This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt_B said: Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you will, but I'll wait for an announcement as to what it actually is. I belong to the reckless speculation crowd. It's a lifestyle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Zoyx said: I belong to the reckless speculation crowd. It's a lifestyle! 12 hours ago, Gunther said: Possibly the Polymega Remix 2600/7800. Tomorrow cannot come sooner. At no point did I say it was the Polymega Remix, so don't get your panties in a twist. Since when has the word possibly ever been used to confirm anything as a concrete fact? Stay salty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX-1138 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gunther said: What is it then? Really? 🙂 You're not seeing the console they are clearly showing you? Look again, carefully. It's not the original one, looks slightly different around the switches. We'll know for sure later today. Edited August 22, 2023 by THX-1138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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