AtariYMás009 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dr Karnov said: Okay gang, here PAL Pole Position running in 50hz, 1080p with z26 palette, on beta firmware VID_20231219_183547.mp4 that looks awesome if we compare it to the relase firmware, the track was totally black haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microjak Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 We can now see our tyres yay! Much better . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I mean the modification here is something to respect. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protomank Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I was wondering one thing, that maybe @Ben from Plaion knows the answer to. Given that the Atari 7800 has 32 pins, and the 5200 36, but 4 can be ignored, 1 not used and 4 duplicated ground ones; would it be possible to create an adapter for the 5200 cartridges that goes into the Plus slot and the dumper to load the game? Circuit-wise it seems possible, I just do not know if the dumper could actually get the from from it. Would be really cool, as there are quite a few games int he 5200 I find better than the 7800. Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Does this mean that the update is imminent? Or will it be in the new year now with more fixes? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, protomank said: I was wondering one thing, that maybe @Ben from Plaion knows the answer to. Given that the Atari 7800 has 32 pins, and the 5200 36, but 4 can be ignored, 1 not used and 4 duplicated ground ones; would it be possible to create an adapter for the 5200 cartridges that goes into the Plus slot and the dumper to load the game? Circuit-wise it seems possible, I just do not know if the dumper could actually get the from from it. Would be really cool, as there are quite a few games int he 5200 I find better than the 7800. Just curious I've been curious about this too. We'll investigate in the New Year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: Does this mean that the update is imminent? Or will it be in the new year now with more fixes? Thanks again. Development work is done. Everything I mentioned I would do has been completed. Few additional things have been added. Only omission is no work has been done on MNetwork bank switching because I haven't yet got any carts. There was 2 developers working and now I'm waiting for their work to be merged together. Then test and release. Thinking I may release it as a beta on Atari Age first. 15 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Only omission is no work has been done on MNetwork bank switching because I haven't yet got any carts. I have a ton of M Network carts, I'd be glad to send you any of the problem carts!! Just hit me up. ..Al 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Development work is done. Everything I mentioned I would do has been completed. Few additional things have been added. Only omission is no work has been done on MNetwork bank switching because I haven't yet got any carts. There was 2 developers working and now I'm waiting for their work to be merged together. Then test and release. Thinking I may release it as a beta on Atari Age first. Wow Ben, great update. Well done to you and the team. I saw you mention Pitall 2 in a comment, could games with added chips really be made compatible? I had assumed not, unless the chip for each particular cart that has one is emulated in Stella too. I am guessing here as I am no developer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Albert said: I have a ton of M Network carts, I'd be glad to send you any of the problem carts!! Just hit me up. ..Al Nice. M Network (E7): Bump'n Jump (not the Telegames version!), Burgertime, Masters of the Universe is what's needed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, JetmanUK said: Wow Ben, great update. Well done to you and the team. I saw you mention Pitall 2 in a comment, could games with added chips really be made compatible? I had assumed not, unless the chip for each particular cart that has one is emulated in Stella too. I am guessing here as I am no developer. Thanks but I need to see it all work before I start cracking out the champers. Plus there will be more to do. Came out a couple of weeks ago that Pitfall2 maybe bootable, even Thomas seemed enthusiastic about the theory. But we've not done anything yet, after the update is out we'll test the theory 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Nice. M Network (E7): Bump'n Jump (not the Telegames version!), Burgertime, Masters of the Universe is what's needed Excellent, thanks for the list. I'll see what I have here and will send you a PM. ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Thanks but I need to see it all work before I start cracking out the champers. Plus there will be more to do. Came out a couple of weeks ago that Pitfall2 maybe bootable, even Thomas seemed enthusiastic about the theory. But we've not done anything yet, after the update is out we'll test the theory Haha, I am sure it will be a very worthwhile update, whenever it lands. Right, more great news, lets hope it can work. I don't actually own a Pitfall 2 cart myself, too expensive! Ha Perhaps now that Activision is part of MS and Phil Spencer is big into game preservation then perhaps Acti games can be licensed for re-release on the 2600. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 6:45 PM, Dr Karnov said: And here's PAL Polaris on the same firmware I just received Polaris in the post today, it loads up but is glitched and doesn't play properly, so I guess this is fixed in the new firmware too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: I just received Polaris in the post today, it loads up but is glitched and doesn't play properly, so I guess this is fixed in the new firmware too. What is the nature of the glitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Karnov said: What is the nature of the glitch? 2 minutes ago, Dr Karnov said: What is the nature of the glitch? The yellow submarine has flickering stripes underneath it and you can't move it. The planes come across but then it resets and does the same thing every few seconds. As I typed that I tried it again. It's already been cleaned three times, but I really jiggled it in the slot and flicked the power on and off. It worked! Maybe I have a flaky cartridge, I have had one good boot from around 30. Just tried again and it's glitched again. I'll try yet another clean, perhaps worn contacts? On 12/19/2023 at 6:45 PM, Dr Karnov said: And here's PAL Polaris on the same firmware I just received Polaris in the post today, it loads up but is glitched and doesn't play properly, so I guess this is fixed in the new firmware too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Okay, this is very interesting. I intermittently have the same fault. Sometimes I boot the game and get this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 But then after a clean and a few re-insertions it works fine: VID_20231220_231534.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I've cleaned the cart multiple times and I would say I have maybe one good boot out of 4 or 5 attempts. If it loads up fine then I can play it for as long as I like with no glitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Karnov said: I've cleaned the cart multiple times and I would say I have maybe one good boot out of 4 or 5 attempts. If it loads up fine then I can play it for as long as I like with no glitching I've managed two good boots. Many more tried now and nope. Glitch to the right of the text and the glitchy sub. Hmmmm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Good news on the newest beta firmware PAL Commando 7800 is fully working (with the correct buttons!) VID_20231221_182334.mp4 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Also, PAL Ballblazer working perfectly with no graphical glitches at all VID_20231221_183510.mp4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Excellent news indeed. Keep em coming! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr Karnov said: Also, PAL Ballblazer working perfectly with no graphical glitches at all VID_20231221_183510.mp4 Great, I don't have this... yet, anyway. Oh in addition to my other 7800 PAL games that don't work (Choplifter, Karateka and Ms Pac-Man) Xevious doesn't work either. Hoping they are all on the working list now too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: Great, I don't have this... yet, anyway. Oh in addition to my other 7800 PAL games that don't work (Choplifter, Karateka and Ms Pac-Man) Xevious doesn't work either. Hoping they are all on the working list now too. On the beta I'm currently testing, my PAL carts of Ms Pacman and Choplifter are not working. I know that overall 7800 emulation / compatibility is being worked on as we speak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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