Plumbob Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) I recently picked up a copy of Dark Chambers for the 7800. Overall I like it a lot but it also has a lot of untapped potential. @Ben from Plaion I would like to suggest that Plaion release an enhanced version that has at least two improvements: first, there needs to be a boss battle after level ‘Z’. Simply starting over at level ‘A’ after completing ‘Z’ is so anticlimactic, especially after picking up all the power ups on level ‘Z’. and second, the ability to run, which could be implemented in various different ways. One way would be while your elf has more than 90% health he can run a little faster. The reason why I’m suggesting these enhancements is because I believe it would sell really well. Edited August 25 by Plumbob Added nice colorful picture! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 4 minutes ago, Plumbob said: I recently picked up a copy of Dark Chambers for the 7800. Overall I like it a lot but it also has a lot of untapped potential. @Ben from Plaion I would like to suggest that Plaion release an enhanced version that has at least two improvements: first, there needs to be a boss battle after level ‘Z’. Simply starting over at level ‘A’ after completing ‘Z’ is so anticlimactic, especially after picking up all the power ups on level ‘Z’. and second, the ability to run, which could be implemented in various different ways. One way would be while your elf has more than 90% health he can run a little faster. The reason why I’m suggesting these enhancements is because I believe it would sell really well. Yes, Dark Chambers gets a lot of love here on AA. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass this onto Atari. Pretty sure they own the IP. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbob Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Yes, Dark Chambers gets a lot of love here on AA. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass this onto Atari. Pretty sure they own the IP. See, this is what I love about AtariAge, Plaion, Atari, and Ben: even if my suggestion never makes it to production, at least someone is listening and considering community ideas. In my experience, I can’t think of any other company who embeds someone into the community and listens to customers. This community relationship is awesome, keep up the great work Ben and team and everyone here on AtariAge! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 i just hope we get more games on 7800, at least some more "experimental ones" sprinkled in for genre variety to stand out from the standard addictively simple, yet fun Atari stuff. also on dark chambers maybe at least do the more standard thing, if possible of increasing difficulty when sent back to Level A, if that isn't already the case and if it is then maybe make a secret super hard mode that you only get from beating the hardest mode, boss fight too but it is fun to have a game you can endlessly play. It is why i am a fan of many text based, simulation titles. But that'd make this game more interesting to 100%. Also Karateka 7800, make it outdo the famicom version, control more like the original Apple II version and you'll have the best version of the game even if without HOKEY/POKEY sound. And maybe if Air Raiders is re-released maybe add a mode like the unlimited ammo romhack that adds some kind of "marathon run" appeal. Still have fuel and the possibility of crashing there and all of that, perhaps even different rates of fire or other additional modes and you'd have a must-have Air Raiders +. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy princess Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just tried to clean my copy of klax. Now my 2600+ is failing every game... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 14 hours ago, Maztr_0n said: i just hope we get more games on 7800, at least some more "experimental ones" sprinkled in for genre variety to stand out from the standard addictively simple, yet fun Atari stuff. It would be neat if Atari released some 7800 games that were cancelled back in the day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atari_7800_games#Cancelled_games 14 hours ago, Maztr_0n said: And maybe if Air Raiders is re-released maybe add a mode like the unlimited ammo romhack that adds some kind of "marathon run" appeal. Still have fuel and the possibility of crashing there and all of that, perhaps even different rates of fire or other additional modes and you'd have a must-have Air Raiders +. This is MrChickenz favorite game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DhaemonX Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 @Ben I'm guessing that since you said DK and DKjr for the 7800 would be a no-go for a reissue from Atari, I'm assuming Xenophobe, H.E.R.O., Private Eye and Mario Bros would also be a no go? I see the publisher for those were Atari but I'm assuming, just like DK AND DKJR they are not easy to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, fairy princess said: Just tried to clean my copy of klax. Now my 2600+ is failing every game... Get a flashlight and check if all the pins of the cartridge slot are still up. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy princess Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 14 minutes ago, Fred_M said: Get a flashlight and check if all the pins of the cartridge slot are still up. Good luck! I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Would this help??? VID_20240826_154921_966.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 16 hours ago, Maztr_0n said: And maybe if Air Raiders is re-released maybe add a mode like the unlimited ammo romhack that adds some kind of "marathon run" appeal. Still have fuel and the possibility of crashing there and all of that, perhaps even different rates of fire or other additional modes and you'd have a must-have Air Raiders +. 1 hour ago, Intellivision Master said: It would be neat if Atari released some 7800 games that were cancelled back in the day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atari_7800_games#Cancelled_games This is MrChickenz favorite game. You know, I never even thought of the possibility of releasing a 7800+ version of Air Raiders and possibly other M-Network titles. The graphics would look great and possibly AI, I believe AI has been mentioned before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 30 minutes ago, fairy princess said: I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Would this help??? VID_20240826_154921_966.mp4 It is hard to see on a video. But when you look at the shiny pins, you can see that the ones on the right look fine (see picture below). Now, compare these pins with all other pins. When one or more of them have been pushed to the bottom, those pins will not make a good contact with a cartridge. It is possible to bend them back up by using a needle, it is much easier when you open up the console and get the cartridge slot out of the housing. But I can understand that doing this is not your thing. You can take a look at this topic and ask Ben for a replacement. But, if all pins look fine, the problem lies somewhere else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 12 hours ago, MrChickenz said: You know, I never even thought of the possibility of releasing a 7800+ version of Air Raiders and possibly other M-Network titles. The graphics would look great and possibly AI, I believe AI has been mentioned before. 7800 air raiders is a different beast to consider... i'd almost wonder if the polygonal esque style of F-18 Hornet would actually work for it or not, depends on how crunchy the res is made, maybe it would be easier to tell whats firing at you and from where, shoot down ground targets? Hmmmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 14 hours ago, Intellivision Master said: It would be neat if Atari released some 7800 games that were cancelled back in the day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atari_7800_games#Cancelled_games Totally, i also wanna see a few simulation, rpg or even strategy titles and perhaps even mature titles on the consoles. As long as it proves to be worthwhile i'd love to see something relatively absurdist. But lynx games... oh yeah... cancelled stuff yes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy princess Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I've took the back off my 2600+. I don't know what I'm doing. I might buy a cheap jnr off eBay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, fairy princess said: I've took the back off my 2600+. I don't know what I'm doing. I might buy a cheap jnr off eBay.... I assume you did that because your 2600+ does not load any games? Did you check if you actually do have bent pins? If you do not know what you are doing, then it is better to stop and send @Ben from Plaion a message 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) On 8/25/2024 at 7:29 PM, Ben from Plaion said: Yes, Dark Chambers gets a lot of love here on AA. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass this onto Atari. Pretty sure they own the IP. Surely this will be one of the next batch of carts. It's Atari IP, much loved, and not easy to get hold of an affordable CIB copy. I don't mind if it'd not enhanced in any way either, slap that old ROM in a cart and take our money! 😃 Atari are already selling an XP cart version of it too: Dark Chambers - Limited Edition - Official Atari Video Game Cartridge – Atari® Edited August 27 by JetmanUK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 hours ago, JetmanUK said: Surely this will be one of the next batch of carts. It's Atari IP, much loved, and not easy to get hold of an affordable CIB copy. I don't mind if it'd not enhanced in any way either, slap that old ROM in a cart and take our money! 😃 Atari are already selling an XP cart version of it too: Dark Chambers - Limited Edition - Official Atari Video Game Cartridge – Atari® They should do a limited edition for the 7800 version. As well as a standard edition re-release for the 7800 version. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 On 8/6/2024 at 7:26 AM, JetmanUK said: My CX24 finally arrived today. Here it is just before I cleaned it up. Beat Electronics has NOS of the CX24, Lifetime! https://www.best-electronics-ca.com/joystick.htm#CX24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 A loose cart arrived today. I'll show a photo of it later on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 On 8/26/2024 at 1:55 PM, fairy princess said: Just tried to clean my copy of klax. Now my 2600+ is failing every game... What did you use to clean the cart. Isopropyl alcohol on a q-tip/cotton bud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, MrChickenz said: Beat Electronics has NOS of the CX24, Lifetime! https://www.best-electronics-ca.com/joystick.htm#CX24 Good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, MrChickenz said: Beat Electronics has NOS of the CX24, Lifetime! https://www.best-electronics-ca.com/joystick.htm#CX24 My favourite controller at the mo. I use it pretty much for all my 2600/7800 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 6 hours ago, fairy princess said: I've took the back off my 2600+. I don't know what I'm doing. I might buy a cheap jnr off eBay.... I wouldn't go messing about with 2600+ internally, unless you know what you're doing. Were all your other carts working before you tried cleaning the Klax cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) On 8/25/2024 at 1:22 PM, Plumbob said: I recently picked up a copy of Dark Chambers for the 7800. Overall I like it a lot but it also has a lot of untapped potential. @Ben from Plaion I would like to suggest that Plaion release an enhanced version that has at least two improvements: first, there needs to be a boss battle after level ‘Z’. Simply starting over at level ‘A’ after completing ‘Z’ is so anticlimactic, especially after picking up all the power ups on level ‘Z’. and second, the ability to run, which could be implemented in various different ways. One way would be while your elf has more than 90% health he can run a little faster. The reason why I’m suggesting these enhancements is because I believe it would sell really well. You wanna a real killer app game cart that has wide appeal ? Just get someone to develop Gauntlet with 4 player simultaneous for the 7800+ Release it in a pack with dual joysticks per port, like the paddles, lol. "Wizard is about to die" "Don't shoot food !" etc. lol Edited August 27 by tradyblix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, shane857 said: What did you use to clean the cart. Isopropyl alcohol on a q-tip/cotton bud? Both 2600 and 7800 Klax work on this machine, once cleaned. Just as a reference. I have both. It is the 90s, and it is time for .... Klax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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