SirEdward Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I got a 2600+ for Christmas and I brought Pitfall. Some reason i am getting a tap tap sound. You can see it in the video. I brought the game back to the local store and we tried out a another cartridge and the same thing happened. Any idea what this could be or is anybody else having this issue? Thanks. ed IMG_5504.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Some kind of dumping error? Have you tried cleaning the contacts? I’ve had bad audio with games that didn’t get dumped properly, though they weren’t playable and either needed further cleaning or reseating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSword Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Pitfall plays fine and without any odd noise on my 2600+. As Sean mentions, try giving the contacts a good cleaning and that might fix the issue. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Others have posted similar issues with their Pitfall on the 2600+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 My Pitfall is NTSC and I’ve played it a couple of times on my 2600+ without issues. I’d be more inclined to think cart is the issue, but I suppose it’s not impossible there is a bug in the dumper that the impending firmware update could address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmop69 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I've just updated to the V1.1Beta and I have now the same noise with Pitfall NTSC. I've not used an original cart, but a multicard I've made (brand new pcb and eprom). With the 1.0 it was working fine, without any noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSword Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tmop69 said: I've just updated to the V1.1Beta and I have now the same noise with Pitfall NTSC. I've not used an original cart, but a multicard I've made (brand new pcb and eprom). With the 1.0 it was working fine, without any noise. Bummer about that strange noise issue. Thanks for the info. I was sort of considering to update the 2600+ firmware with the current beta, but I figured it would be best to wait until feedback came in about it and that a stable release build was ready which will hopefully have fixes for various issues (such as the strange noise with Pitfall that's maybe caused by the beta update). As Pitfall is one of my fav 2600 games I have, and most of my current games collection I don't really have any issues with, I think for the time being I'll just stay with the default v1 build of the firmware that the 2600+ shipped installed with. Edited December 31, 2023 by MysticSword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, MysticSword said: Bummer about that strange noise issue. Thanks for the info. I was sort of considering to update the 2600+ firmware with the current beta, but I figured it would be best to wait until feedback came in about it and that a stable release build was ready which will hopefully have fixes for various issues (such as the strange noise with Pitfall that's maybe caused by the beta update). As Pitfall is one of my fav 2600 games I have, and most of my current games collection I don't really have any issues with, I think for the time being I'll just stay with the default v1 build of the firmware that the 2600+ shipped installed with. I might wait as well. After looking at the instructions for the update, it's more involved than I thought. I was hoping there were less steps to do the update. Maybe when the final version is out, the update process will be simpler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haxxon Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) I’m having the same issue myself. I even cleaned the cart multiple times too! 😩 Edited December 31, 2023 by haxxon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Intellivision Master said: I might wait as well. After looking at the instructions for the update, it's more involved than I thought. I was hoping there were less steps to do the update. Maybe when the final version is out, the update process will be simpler. Don't be afraid, it's not that difficult. Some of it (installing the device driver) only has to be done once. Edited December 31, 2023 by tradyblix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonw Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Does it fix this issue, however? I have tried 2 different cartridges. Both make noise. The same carts do not generate the clicking on other RF mod'd machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 No, I have a cart with the issue with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GcMcM Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) I have same problem with my Pitfall cartridge. The frequency of the sound is slower on mine. Edit: Never mind, I just checked it again, the frequency is the same. Edited January 10 by GcMcM Correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockduck Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Yeah, I've been hearing this as well on my Pitfall! even after a few cleanings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM_ Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I have the clicking sound in Pitfall! as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorkbot Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I wonder why Pitfall makes a weird noise for so many of you. Mine behaves totally normally. Are there different versions of the cart? I’d kinda love to get a good recording of that sound to sample and maybe try to use it in a music composition. (The first post’s audio is unusable for that since there’s radio or something playing in the background.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It's not the cart fault. I made a cart that worked perfectly fine with my Atari 2600+ unit, but not with the friend's unit. I suspect the problem appears on some 2600+ <-> HDMI <-> TV combinations... But I have no idea to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Dalton said: I suspect the problem appears on some 2600+ <-> HDMI <-> TV combinations... But I have no idea to be honest... You may be on to something. I have a Collectorvision Phoenix and there are known issues with some modern tvs with regard to sound. My issue was similar to this pitfall sound. By the way none of these Phoenix issues has ever been resolved even though it's been years but that's another subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GcMcM Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dalton said: It's not the cart fault. I made a cart that worked perfectly fine with my Atari 2600+ unit, but not with the friend's unit. I suspect the problem appears on some 2600+ <-> HDMI <-> TV combinations... But I have no idea to be honest... I just tried my Pitfall cart on a different TV and different HDMI cable with same result. When playing on my Atari Jr (hooked up RCA to coax adapter) I noticed this Pitfall cart seems to have more static in the video and audio compared to my other carts. I'm beginning to think it's something with the cartridge causing the sound. Edited January 11 by GcMcM Correction: RCA to Coax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonw Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Quote There was something in another thread about PitFall using a different register for silent than 99.9% of other games. I believe some copies of HERO have this problem too. The PitFall sound sounds to me the same as Choplifter 7800s chopper. It sucks because my 2600+ suffers from it (I have tried different carts, different cables and monitors,) and PitFall is the game I most wanted to play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorkbot Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) On 1/11/2024 at 11:15 AM, GcMcM said: I just tried my Pitfall cart on a different TV and different HDMI cable with same result. Well that rules that out, I guess. Are there different versions of the Pitfall cart? That could explain why some people get the weird sound and others do not. Maybe someone with the weird sound could send their Pitfall cart to @Ben from Plaion for testing…Would that be appropriate? Edited January 23 by Glorkbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSetIlly Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 hours ago, jasonw said: There was something in another thread about PitFall using a different register for silent than 99.9% of other games. I believe some copies of HERO have this problem too. Yes. It affects Fishing Derby too. It's definitely not a problem with cartridge cleanliness or HDMI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GcMcM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 hours ago, Glorkbot said: Well that rules that out, I guess. Are there different versions of the Pitfall cart? That could explain why some people get the weird sound and others do not. Maybe someone with the weird sound could send their Pitfall cart to @Ben from Plaion for testing…Would that be appropriate? If he wants to do that, I'd be willing to send mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 hours ago, Glorkbot said: Well that rules that out, I guess. Are there different versions of the Pitfall cart? That could explain why some people get the weird sound and others do not. Maybe someone with the weird sound could send their Pitfall cart to @Ben from Plaion for testing…Would that be appropriate? I am afraid it would make more sense to send the console... A few people always have the noise issue even with different carts and if so, they have more disappearing sprites than the majority🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorkbot Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said: I am afraid it would make more sense to send the console... A few people always have the noise issue even with different carts and if so, they have more disappearing sprites than the majority🤔 Maybe they'd need to look at a cart and the console, then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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