+Allan Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 And while I'm at it, how the $&*@*$! do I get that expansion port cover off? I swear to god it doesn't want to come off by any means known to man! Tempest Push the two bottom tabs out from the back. You have to be a bit firm but it will pop out. One other thing. When putting the wire into the expansion cover, pull the wires the the expansion HOLE and then put the wires through the cover. Getting the cover with the wires on it through the expansion hole is very difficult. Doing it the first way is much easier. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRetroGamer Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 This may sound like a dumb question, but after the mod what cables connect all this to my TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Gah! Ok I guess I'm an idiot, because I can't figure this out from the pictures. Can someone give me some step by step instructions? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 LOL Tempest, it's not too difficult. It really depends on how you want to wire it, but it comes with everything you would need for a stereo (thru the 1/8 headphone jack) and a composite video RCA, and separate Chroma & Luma (also thru RCA) The separate chroma & luma are only good for the old Commodore monitors, or you can use those wires if you are using s-video. Basically with this mod you would need a 1/8 headphone jack to dual rca spliter for the stereo output on a TV, and then basic red/white/yellow rca cables. For the RF shielding I used needle nose pliers to bend up the tabs, then a pocket knife to break loose, it came up easily enough. I used 1/4" drill bit on the rca jack openings on the expansion port cover. I used the templete, name plate sticker as a guide for spacing but didn't care for it back there, so I removed once I but my pieces in. And yeah it's a good idea to pay attention to how it hooks up, as I don't believe those wires come back out of that molex connector thingie once they are pushed in. There are 2 wires on each rca that you use, a main & a ground, the ground is looped together and wired to the washers that are used on the inside to mount the rcas on the expansion port cover. And you have the wire that passed thru the center of the rca, and is already soldered up, and it simply plugs into the molex deal on the other side. The ground goes to all of them when it's put together. So basically you open it up Remove RF shielding Remove Exp cover Remove GTIA cip as pictured Install on video mod board Install video mod board in it's place on the 5200 The take the drill bit to the expansion cover, as needed to put all the ports you want back there. Pull out all your wiring stuff and separate it. He's got a color code by which is going to which on the video mod board thing, but it's not too important, but may make you're connects off by however you've got it placed on the expansion cover, your video could be a luma, or a chroma a composite, or whatever. Again that all depends on how and what you use anyway, you may only want composite video & stereo. Pass the rca jacks thru the holes you drilled, and then pass the ground washers on them, then the nut to hold in place. Then snap the other ends to the molex connector. plug the molex into the video mod board. connect the jumper lead, to the pin as marked in the other picture I posted. Put the RF shielding back on. Assmeble. Test. Play. This is what mine will look like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Looks like yours has an S-video jack. Mine came with Composite jacks, but since there are games that use artifacting that's probably for the best. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Ok I think I have it hooked up right, but I have two questions: 1. Does the clip go on the third or fourth pin of the Pokey chip? 2. What kind of cable do I use for the composite? It looks like I just need three wires to plug into the RCA jacks (Video, and the two sound). If I wanted to use S-Video would I use the Chroma and Luma jacks? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRetroGamer Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I didn't get an S Video connector either - did you customize yours further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nope I just used what came in the kit. Like I said, there are a few games that use Artifacting (Choplifter, AE, Microgammon, Mini Golf) so I'm not sure I'd want to use it anyway (although it would be nice to have the option). I tested the mod and it works, except I have one complaint. Everything seems a little too dark. The whites especially (like in the spash screen letters) seem "dingy" and almost gray. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a pot or something I can use to adjust the color brightness? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Yeah I'm not doing it exactly like the instructions. I use S-video on most everything, so I decided I'd use S-video on the 5200 as well. As far as artifacting goes, I plan on using one of these on any games that require it. It's a simple inline deal that gives me a composite output. I could add another composite video rca to the back, but not with the way it's spaced currently not enough room. Would have to be on the back of one of my other 5200s. @Tempest, I don't believe there are two rcas for sound! It's one 1/8" headphone jack! Those other rcas are for separate chroma & luma outputs not sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 @Tempest, I don't believe there are two rcas for sound! It's one 1/8" headphone jack! Those other rcas are for separate chroma & luma outputs not sound. Yeah yeah I know, I used a headphone to rca adapter I had lying around for that. Anyone else had the dark color problem I had? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Anybody? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Anyone else had the dark color problem I had? Tempest Nope, mine looks and plays fine. A great picture. Even with S-Video, the artifacting you speak of isn't a big deal. As soon as Sean fixes my multi-cart, I'll be a "happy 5200 camper". -Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Just installed mine. Can't get a proper display off the video out though. I'm pushing the output in through a computer into wintv.. works fine for the little atari-controller with 11 games, but when I switch in the 5200 i just get black or green screens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Ok, After going over everything, and reseating stuff it works! w00h00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Now I need to find out more about the 'adapter required' to do actual s-video as well as sound. Can anybody point me in the right direction here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABombjoy Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Look at the bottom of this page: http://12.129.78.160/iwwida.pvx?;PRODUCTS_...%20%20%20%20%20 Orders over a certain amount get free shipping too (I think $10) That page is from http://www.cableconn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 So no one is having the "dark" problem I am? Is there a pot I can adjust in the 5200 to brighten things up? I assume I have the mod installed right or I wouldn't see anything. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Look at the bottom of this page: http://12.129.78.160/iwwida.pvx?;PRODUCTS_...%20%20%20%20%20 Orders over a certain amount get free shipping too (I think $10) That page is fromhttp://www.cableconn.com That first link doesn't work for me.. Is it basically the '12' S-Video to 2x RCA ? Thanks -miah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 So no one is having the "dark" problem I am? Is there a pot I can adjust in the 5200 to brighten things up? I assume I have the mod installed right or I wouldn't see anything. Tempest I might be, not sure yet. I only played it on the projector last night. Nothing like Centpede on a projector =) I'll test again with my tv when I get home tonight and let you know. -miah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I'll test again with my tv when I get home tonight and let you know. Yeah Centipede looked alright from what I remember (and so did Pole Position). Try some games that aren't normally so bright. Also take a look at the text on the start up screen. That's where I first noticed that it was a dingy white rather than the bright white it normally is. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABombjoy Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 That first link doesn't work for me.. Is it basically the '12' S-Video to 2x RCA ? That, or there is a 6' version too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 That first link doesn't work for me.. Is it basically the '12' S-Video to 2x RCA ? That, or there is a 6' version too I don't understand how thats going to get me audio, because the audio out on this mod is similar to a headphone jack. a RCA cable is not big enought 'snap' into it. Video out works fine though. The way this cable looks to me is that on one end it has 2 RCA jacks, and on the other it has one SVIDEO jack. I don't know lots about these types of hookups, but looking at the cable I get confused. The colors on the RCA jacks are Red and White, which are generally used for AUDIO, and then it has the Svideo connector. Maybe the picture just sucks. I just tested a bunch of games Galaxian, Pac-Man, Defender, Countermeasure, and QIX and they all worked great. *awesome* picture. But playing without sound sucks. So I need to figure that part out. I guess thats the part I wish was better about the documentation. Or if this requires some special adapter, I wish he listed which adapter it needed to do SVIDEO so that I could buy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddUGA Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 To get audio, you need a cable like the one below... They are often used to connect a computer sound card to a set of speakers. It has a headphone plug on one end and stereo RCA plugs on the other. The single end plugs into the audio jack on the new 5200 cover and the two RCA ends go to your television's left and right audio in plugs. The cable below is the s-video cable that connects to the seperate chroma and luma outputs. You plug the two RCA ends into the chroma and luma jacks on the back of the 5200 cover and the s-video end into the s-video input on your television. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x6d696168 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 To get audio, you need a cable like the one below... They are often used to connect a computer sound card to a set of speakers. It has a headphone plug on one end and stereo RCA plugs on the other. The single end plugs into the audio jack on the new 5200 cover and the two RCA ends go to your television's left and right audio in plugs. The cable below is the s-video cable that connects to the seperate chroma and luma outputs. You plug the two RCA ends into the chroma and luma jacks on the back of the 5200 cover and the s-video end into the s-video input on your television. Hope this helps! That makes much more sense. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 I haven't noticed any darkness. It looks great on mine. There is one adjustment pointemeter right beside the power led, that adjusts the tint I believe I was playing with it before I closed it up. Not sure there is a brightness thou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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