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1 hour ago, PacManPlus said:

Ben, you finished it already?  Damn - I should have made it more difficult :P

 

The game started out with the same button layout as SMB, as I figured that's what most people were used to: A to jump, and B to run and throw crystals.  As the game progressed and I was posting demos, people were asking me for other configurations such as reversing the button layout (B to jump and A to run and throw crystals).  Finally someone asked about the CX-40, so I made the option to have 'Up' jump and the single button to run and throw crystals.  I think I finally have everyone covered now :)

 

Thank you for responding. You made the 7800+ launch lineup freaking awesome! While I got you. Will the "hidden" game Asteroids be on the new Asteroids Deluxe cart?

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2 hours ago, PacManPlus said:

Ben, you finished it already?  Damn - I should have made it more difficult :P

 

The game started out with the same button layout as SMB, as I figured that's what most people were used to: A to jump, and B to run and throw crystals.  As the game progressed and I was posting demos, people were asking me for other configurations such as reversing the button layout (B to jump and A to run and throw crystals).  Finally someone asked about the CX-40, so I made the option to have 'Up' jump and the single button to run and throw crystals.  I think I finally have everyone covered now :)

 

 

 

Its so weird realizing this community is interwoven enough that the creator of a console's pack-in game will just casually pop-in :)

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Dunno why but the way the buttons / the mold of the body around the buttons, it doesnt look like they wanted you to use two thumbs on each button and your third thumb on the stick, it looks like it was designed to be used with your pointer and middle fingers... like the optimal speedboard controller or whatever that plastic thing AVGN covered in an NES accessories that was just a plastic thing you put on a table.

 

Or maybe Atari of Europe really did have three thumbs, i cant confirm or deny that.

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2 minutes ago, Trebor said:

You spelled wonderful incorrectly. ;)

Truly weird is a word that has every meaning :)

 

Yes i did mean the wonderful weird not the bad weirds or the less sensical neutral/good weirds :D

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Hello all!

 

10 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

@PacManPlus Don't you have the one and only patch?  I vaguely remember ShyOne making one.  You should post a pic of that, maybe Atari could do something like it.

@CPUWIZ I believe so... I need to find it, although we've moved 3 times since then, and I'm missing some of my stuff :( 

 

 

9 hours ago, swiller said:

Thank you for responding. You made the 7800+ launch lineup freaking awesome! While I got you. Will the "hidden" game Asteroids be on the new Asteroids Deluxe cart?

Thank you for the kind words!  It should be; I didn't remove it.

 

 

8 hours ago, Maztr_0n said:

Its so weird realizing this community is interwoven enough that the creator of a console's pack-in game will just casually pop-in :)

LOL - thank you!

I'm on a lot :D 

 

 

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11 hours ago, PacManPlus said:

Ben, you finished it already?  Damn - I should have made it more difficult :P

 

The game started out with the same button layout as SMB, as I figured that's what most people were used to: A to jump, and B to run and throw crystals.  As the game progressed and I was posting demos, people were asking me for other configurations such as reversing the button layout (B to jump and A to run and throw crystals).  Finally someone asked about the CX-40, so I made the option to have 'Up' jump and the single button to run and throw crystals.  I think I finally have everyone covered now :)

 

No it was difficult enough thanks! Luckilly I found quite a few warps. And I found the bonus level!

 

I think I'll go back to it and try and playthrough without doing any warps. 

 

Looking forward to seeing your next new game! If there is one, I wouldnt know 😁

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3 hours ago, PacManPlus said:

Hello all!

 

@CPUWIZ I believe so... I need to find it, although we've moved 3 times since then, and I'm missing some of my stuff :( 

 

 

Thank you for the kind words!  It should be; I didn't remove it.

 

 

LOL - thank you!

I'm on a lot :D 

 

 

Thank you for your games !!! Never seen you on here but your games are amazing !

 

I'm just sad I had to pay insane aftermarket prices to obtain them ! Do you know how much they go for now ?!

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Hey!

1 hour ago, JetmanUK said:

Ooh, do we need to run and check what else Bob has made? Or is this a new game or port? 🤔🤔🤔😁

Thank you :) I've made some others - if you frequent the 7800 forum you can see a few :) 

 

42 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said:

 

My heartfelt congratulations, Bob! I am happy for you, you truly deserve it, and it is a privilege for Atari to have you on their team. I wish you all the best! :)

 

Thanks, man - and thank you for your help on a few of them! :D 

 

16 minutes ago, tradyblix said:

Thank you for your games !!! Never seen you on here but your games are amazing !

 

I'm just sad I had to pay insane aftermarket prices to obtain them ! Do you know how much they go for now ?!

Thank *you*! I haven't really been looking...  [*goes and checks eBay, sees Baby Pac-Man for a $470.00 buy it now..., Space Invaders for $300] 

...Seriously?  I hate price gouging :mad:  

 

@Ben from Plaion I hoping there are more... ;) 
 

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9 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said:

Yeah I know. it's great some of them are getting official re-releases and will be more affordable ! Waiting on Space Duel and BBCQ myself, gotta wait for the 7800+ bundle tho. The art looks nice and clean on all these too. I was referencing more about games like you know. Jr Pac Man, Baby Pac Man, and SI 7800. Holy grails :) 

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46 minutes ago, PacManPlus said:

Thanks, man - and thank you for your help on a few of them! :D 

 

It was an honor and a privilege, Bob. :)

So much excitement seeing the development behind the scenes, so many great memories. You were a beautiful person to many of us, we will not forget it.

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59 minutes ago, JetmanUK said:

Ok, we clearly need to list all of his games so we can speculate what may be next. 😁

Here's the list, sit back and enjoy... :)

 

By PacManPlus:


Adventure III: The Race For The Chalice | Aug 29, 2016 | Dormant
Armor Attack II* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Asteroids/Asteroids Deluxe* | Oct 14, 2007 | Done
Asteroids (Vector Edition Hack)* | Jul 24, 2005 | Done
Astro Blaster* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Astro Fighter* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Battlezone | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest¹ | Dec 20, 2015 | Done
BMP7800 (Utility) | May 23, 2016 | Dormant

Bounty Bob Strikes Back | Aug 20, 2024 | Done
Clean Sweep | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Crazy Brix* | Apr 27, 2016 | Done
Crazy Otto (Hack)* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Dark Tower (Demo) | May 06, 2013 | Dormant
Defender | Mar 15, 2022 | Dormant
DLLTemplate (DL & DLL Template) | Jul 23, 2008 | Done
Dual Pac-Man (Hack)* | Sep 02, 2005 | Done
FailSafe* | Feb 27, 2010 | Done
Frenzy (w/Berzerk)* | Oct 25, 2021 | Done

Galaxian* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Hangly-Man (Hack)* | May, 31, 2005 | Done
Jr. Pac-Man* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
KC Munchkin | Jun 27, 2023 | KC Munchkin (Alt Movement) Apr 09, 2017 | Done
Meteor Shower* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Moon Cresta* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Ms. Pac-Attack (Hack)* | May 31, 2005 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man (Fast Hack)* | Mar 04, 2006 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man (Hack)* | May 01, 2009 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man 320*¹ | Aug 08, 2011 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man Twin* | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Pac Pollux (Hack)* | Mar 05, 2006 | Done
Pac-Man - Energy Drink Edition | Jul 07, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man (Hack)* | May 30, 2005 | Done
Pac-Man 320*¹ | Aug 10, 2011 | Done
Pac-Man Collection*¹ | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man Collection - 40th Anniversary Edition*³ | Jun 27, 2023 | Short Mazes | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man Plus 320¹ | Jun 25, 2019 | Done
Pac-Man Plus (Hack)* | Jun 02, 2005 | Done
PinOut | Jan 29, 2011 | Dormant

Plutos (XM Required Version) | Jun 27, 2020 | Done
ReZolve | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Rip-Off* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Scramble* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Sirius (XM Required Version) | Jun 27, 2020 | Done
Source Code List | Sep 30, 2012 | Done
Space Duel* | Oct 14, 2007 | Done
Space Invaders* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Super Circus AtariAge (POKEY 0450) / (POKEY 4000) | Jun 11, 2017 | Done
Super Pac-Man* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Ultra Pac-Man (Hack)* | Jun 19, 2005 | Done

UniWarS* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done

 

PacManPlus / Defender_2600 / RevEng / Trebor / tep392 / Atariboy2600

Pac-Man Collection - Ultimate Edition¹ | Dec 29, 2023 | Done
Pac-Man Collection - Remastered Edition | Dec 29, 2023 | Done


PacManPlus / Kurt_Woloch
Baby Pac-Man | Feb 08, 2019 | Done

 

PacManPlus / RevEng

KiloParsec | Jun 21, 2021 | Done

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The problem with 2600+ collecting is that, while most of us can get these via ROM, many of us want cart copies. In particular, pac man collection is something I wish I could have on cart, have on my little mobile emulator device, but it goes for 300 dollars on eBay, on the rare times it even comes up for sale. Sadness. 

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52 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said:

 

It was an honor and a privilege, Bob. :)

So much excitement seeing the development behind the scenes, so many great memories. You were a beautiful person to many of us, we will not forget it.

Thank you, as are you! 🙂

 ... although that almost sounds like an eulogy, which worries me, as I'm getting on a plane tomorrow morning 😱

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17 minutes ago, PacManPlus said:

Thank you, as are you! 🙂

 ... although that almost sounds like an eulogy, which worries me, as I'm getting on a plane tomorrow morning 😱

Damn, my bad English! I try again...

 

It's always an honor and a privilege, Bob. How exciting to see the development behind the scenes! You are truly a beautiful person, we love you! :)

 

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17 hours ago, PacManPlus said:

Ben, you finished it already?  Damn - I should have made it more difficult :P

 

The game started out with the same button layout as SMB, as I figured that's what most people were used to: A to jump, and B to run and throw crystals.  As the game progressed and I was posting demos, people were asking me for other configurations such as reversing the button layout (B to jump and A to run and throw crystals).  Finally someone asked about the CX-40, so I made the option to have 'Up' jump and the single button to run and throw crystals.  I think I finally have everyone covered now :)

 

If you swap buttons on a CX78, it plays well👍

 

I use an arcade stick which makes it even more playable and I enjoyed it very much🤙

 

If I use a Mega7800 with Genesis 8bitdo receicer and an 8bitdo controller, I remap one button on R1🤗

 

@Ben from Plaion

The game offers to play it with one button (left difficulty switch) to run and throw.

Jump is done with up🏃‍♂️

I can imagine this control scheme works well for many.

The 2600+ console always emulates a CX78 with two buttons, so the one button option of BBCQ does not work.

If a hidden menu might be introduced in the future, an option to force a CX40 (one button!) joystick emulation might solve this issue and some others (Stay Frosty2).

Just an idea😊

 

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6 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said:

Damn, my bad English! I try again...

 

It's always an honor and a privilege, Bob. How exciting to see the development behind the scenes! You are truly a beautiful person, we love you! :)

 

Ha ha - thank you!  You guys have always been like a second family to me...  for over 20 years now ❤️

5 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said:

If you swap buttons on a CX78, it plays well👍

 

I use an arcade stick which makes it even more playable and I enjoyed it very much🤙

 

If I use a Mega7800 with Genesis 8bitdo receicer and an 8bitdo controller, I remap one button on R1🤗

 

@Ben from Plaion

The games offers to play it with one button (left difficulty switch) to run and throw.

Jump is done with up🏃‍♂️

I can imagine this control scheme works well for many.

The 2600+ console always emulates a CX78 with two buttons, so the one button option of BBCQ does not work.

If a hidden menu might be introduced in the future, an option to force a CX40 (one button!) joystick emulation might solve this and some others (Stay Frosty2).

Just an idea😊

 

That actually might solve the (retail) Asteroids issue as well...

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1 hour ago, Defender_2600 said:

Here's the list, sit back and enjoy... :)

 

By PacManPlus:


Adventure III: The Race For The Chalice | Aug 29, 2016 | Dormant
Armor Attack II* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Asteroids/Asteroids Deluxe* | Oct 14, 2007 | Done
Asteroids (Vector Edition Hack)* | Jul 24, 2005 | Done
Astro Blaster* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Astro Fighter* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Battlezone | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest¹ | Dec 20, 2015 | Done
BMP7800 (Utility) | May 23, 2016 | Dormant

Bounty Bob Strikes Back | Aug 20, 2024 | Done
Clean Sweep | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Crazy Brix* | Apr 27, 2016 | Done
Crazy Otto (Hack)* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Dark Tower (Demo) | May 06, 2013 | Dormant
Defender | Mar 15, 2022 | Dormant
DLLTemplate (DL & DLL Template) | Jul 23, 2008 | Done
Dual Pac-Man (Hack)* | Sep 02, 2005 | Done
FailSafe* | Feb 27, 2010 | Done
Frenzy (w/Berzerk)* | Oct 25, 2021 | Done

Galaxian* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Hangly-Man (Hack)* | May, 31, 2005 | Done
Jr. Pac-Man* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
KC Munchkin | Jun 27, 2023 | KC Munchkin (Alt Movement) Apr 09, 2017 | Done
Meteor Shower* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Moon Cresta* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Ms. Pac-Attack (Hack)* | May 31, 2005 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man (Fast Hack)* | Mar 04, 2006 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man (Hack)* | May 01, 2009 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man 320*¹ | Aug 08, 2011 | Done
Ms. Pac-Man Twin* | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Pac Pollux (Hack)* | Mar 05, 2006 | Done
Pac-Man - Energy Drink Edition | Jul 07, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man (Hack)* | May 30, 2005 | Done
Pac-Man 320*¹ | Aug 10, 2011 | Done
Pac-Man Collection*¹ | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man Collection - 40th Anniversary Edition*³ | Jun 27, 2023 | Short Mazes | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Pac-Man Plus 320¹ | Jun 25, 2019 | Done
Pac-Man Plus (Hack)* | Jun 02, 2005 | Done
PinOut | Jan 29, 2011 | Dormant

Plutos (XM Required Version) | Jun 27, 2020 | Done
ReZolve | Feb 08, 2016 | Dormant
Rip-Off* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Scramble* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done

Sirius (XM Required Version) | Jun 27, 2020 | Done
Source Code List | Sep 30, 2012 | Done
Space Duel* | Oct 14, 2007 | Done
Space Invaders* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done
Super Circus AtariAge (POKEY 0450) / (POKEY 4000) | Jun 11, 2017 | Done
Super Pac-Man* | Jun 27, 2023 | Done
Ultra Pac-Man (Hack)* | Jun 19, 2005 | Done

UniWarS* | Aug 26, 2023 | Done

 

PacManPlus / Defender_2600 / RevEng / Trebor / tep392 / Atariboy2600

Pac-Man Collection - Ultimate Edition¹ | Dec 29, 2023 | Done
Pac-Man Collection - Remastered Edition | Dec 29, 2023 | Done


PacManPlus / Kurt_Woloch
Baby Pac-Man | Feb 08, 2019 | Done

 

PacManPlus / RevEng

KiloParsec | Jun 21, 2021 | Done

I own 14 of this list and can't wait until I can preorder Bounty Bob🤙

 

Many thanks for your incredible work🙏

Amazing🤗

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17 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said:

I own 14 of this list and can't wait until I can preorder Bounty Bob🤙

17 for me, including KiloParsec, so really 16 actual carts. Bobs games have always made up a large percentage of my 7800 homebrew library.
 

I look forward to adding BBSB.

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