Atari's Landfill Adventures, I now have the proof it's true.

[NovaXpress]

The ET carts are buried next to Jimmy Hoffa.

[Spud]

It probably didn't happen. Someone would have video or photo's of this SEA of millions of carts LOL and yeah if it existed there would be a book on Amazon for $19.99 right now. E.T. : THE EVIDENCE AT LAST! Aint gonna happen.

 

Let me make this suggestion again, anyone here with some writing skills, (I'm out) I write about as good as I videotape. Type up a little article for the Alamogordo paper asking if anyone remembers it, has any info, pictures, knows anyone who may have helped pour the concrete etc... It's still a small town and has a lot of older people who have lived there forever. Never know. Might get something,

 

or...

 

to actually have an Ataricon or whatever there in town annually, advertise it in the local paper. May get some locals bringing in crushed carts or something, doubtful but who knows. If nothing else there is a casino to visit, ski resort, White Sands, the Air Forse base is flying the Stealth fighter every day almost, in other words, it's not Vegas but there are some things to see and do close by. Another thought is Roswell isn't but an hour away I think, maybe plan it at the same time as the UFO shin dig they throw every year and hit that too, could be fun.

Just a thought

[TheRedEye]

Having an Atari get-together near the landmark site is quite possibly the coolest idea I've ever heard. It's not practical, at all, but it would be awesome.

[Shawn]

Having an Atari get-together near the landmark site is quite possibly the coolest idea I've ever heard. It's not practical, at all, but it would be awesome.

 

If I was allowed in the USA I would go for sure, But alas your country doesn't like me cause I was a bad teenager back in the day . Take some pics for me boys.

[Esc]

Doesn't seem like a bullshit story to me. Those articles are real, so what's not to believe? The company that is mentioned of handling the disposal is real, and does handle industrial and commerical waste. The company is based out of Texas (and they still exist), and the article says the "defective" merchandise loaded on the trucks came from an Atari warehouse in Texas.

 

Well you would have to sift through the thread there for the details.

 

I did, and that's how I've come to the conclusion that this story is true.

 

Seems even though people here have been in touch with folks who worked for Atari at the time...and people who were living right down the road from the landfill at the time, none of the stories we have heard can be verified. I know, I know folks are gonna say...big companies do this all the time, it's no big deal, thats why mutilple truck loads of millions of carts wasnt a big deal to the people that work at Atari....It's BS, If you work for a big company you know that if something as mundane as a co-worker failing a certification test happens, everyone in the company knows about the next day.

 

I totally disagree. The bigger the company, the less you know. A lot of stuff goes on internally in a company that the low level employees never hear about. Atari had many locations and many employees, they don't know what went on at other locations. Plus, why would they want to spread the news that they dumped these carts? So employees currently working there start questioning the security of their jobs? Hey they dumped carts, they're gonna dump me next (which is WHAT happened)

 

Even if you talk to some resident that was living across the street from the dump at the time, how would that person know that a waste disposal company dumped stuff from Atari there unless they heard it on the news, heard it from someone else or read the newspaper article? Its not like 18 wheeler tractor-trailers had the big Atari logo and flashing neon lights. It's a dump. They see trucks and bull-dozers there everyday, and they're pissed off all the time because they live near a dump.

 

Unless you subscribe to the SUPER SECRET COVER UP theory....someone would be able to verify this happened. It would take a crew of people to accomplish this and it's well known enough that if at this date no-one has tried to profit off of the evidence they have...It probably didn't happen. Someone would have video or photo's of this SEA of millions of carts LOL and yeah if it existed there would be a book on Amazon for $19.99 right now. E.T. : THE EVIDENCE AT LAST! Aint gonna happen.

 

There were even reporters on site and enough locals that security was supposedly hired...but amazingly...no evidence exists. LOL Yeah. You know they faked the moon landing too ...right?

 

No evidence exists? How do you conclude that? If no one investigates, how are you going to find evidence. I think part of the problem is that you can't believe that no one hasn't investigated this further. Maybe because no one really cares, or wants to dedicate time & effort to do so. Someone with some time and little investigative skills could verify this happened. Contact the people that were hired by Atari to dump the stuff. Check their records. Did they have a contract with Atari on that date? Did they dump what was said in New Mexico? For me, reading those articles are enough proof that Atari at least did plan on dumping something (or at least said they would) . There are pictures that appear to show remains of Atari carts in the article, you think this is fake?

 

You are right though...The landfill is real. That in my opinion is less than compelling evidence however. In fact one of the guys that worked for Atari said at the time the rumor was going around that the landfill they gave was a fake and the carts were really buried in another location!! LOL Sure they were. More like someone started to snoop and realized the event didnt happen so they switched gears.

 

If you read the article, you can conclude they didn't want anyone scavaging the merchandise. They probably didn't sent it to someone to recycle for the same reason. They probably wanted the dump site secret, and didn't want it publically known that they dumped all the stuff.

 

So what do you believe? You don't believe anything was dumped, but you believe that Atari conspired with a waste disposal company to tell them to pretend to dump defective product in order to commit tax fraud? I'm not saying that's not possible but highly unlikely.

Edited June 12, 2006 by Esc

[homerwannabee]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but aparently the band winter green has been to the site. Well atleast they made a video of it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2Euyz5W3wc&search=atari%202600

[moycon]

If you read the article, you can conclude they didn't want anyone scavaging the merchandise. They probably didn't sent it to someone to recycle for the same reason. They probably wanted the dump site secret, and didn't want it publically known that they dumped all the stuff.

 

First of all, there are already stories of all the local kids and pawn shops having free E.T's like I said none of which can be verified because everyone...even the people that used to "hang out" at the landfill as a kid.... Just heard the stories like us.

 

If security was needed to keep away the flood of reporters and scavengers....there would be more evidence. Reporters don't go out to a site to get a story and say...ooooo security...oh well boys...pack it up. Doesn't happen. They would camp out as close to the site as they could...they would fly helicopers over the site. This would have been news. If it had happened a shitty $8.50 an hour security guard would not have stopped the media...sorry.

 

Why would they want it to be a secret again? They wrote all that merchendise off....Seems to me if it had happened, they wouldn't care who would know. Wasn't much of a secret if it was in the paper....with inconclusive photo's I might add. Like I said, the images of the "Burial" look like the pictures/video's you see of Bigfoot. Hard to believe a professional reporter couldn't get a shot of a million fricken carts laying in a pit. LOL

 

Believe it if you want ....in my opinion based on the information we have now...didn't happen.

I'd believe, even if the carts were never found if the evidence was over-welming....But it aint.

Keep digging though!!! LONG LIVE THE ET THREAD!!!!

[else]

They would camp out as close to the site as they could...they would fly helicopers over the site.

 

Oh come on already!!!! You can't tell me you actually expect reporters to get helicopters and fly them over a dump to see Atari throw out some trash. Give me a break.......

[Esc]

If you read the article, you can conclude they didn't want anyone scavaging the merchandise. They probably didn't sent it to someone to recycle for the same reason. They probably wanted the dump site secret, and didn't want it publically known that they dumped all the stuff.

 

First of all, there are already stories of all the local kids and pawn shops having free E.T's like I said none of which can be verified because everyone...even the people that used to "hang out" at the landfill as a kid.... Just heard the stories like us.

 

If security was needed to keep away the flood of reporters and scavengers....there would be more evidence. Reporters don't go out to a site to get a story and say...ooooo security...oh well boys...pack it up. Doesn't happen. They would camp out as close to the site as they could...they would fly helicopers over the site. This would have been news. If it had happened a shitty $8.50 an hour security guard would not have stopped the media...sorry.

 

Why would they want it to be a secret again? They wrote all that merchendise off....Seems to me if it had happened, they wouldn't care who would know. Wasn't much of a secret if it was in the paper....with inconclusive photo's I might add. Like I said, the images of the "Burial" look like the pictures/video's you see of Bigfoot. Hard to believe a professional reporter couldn't get a shot of a million fricken carts laying in a pit. LOL

 

Believe it if you want ....in my opinion based on the information we have now...didn't happen.

I'd believe, even if the carts were never found if the evidence was over-welming....But it aint.

Keep digging though!!! LONG LIVE THE ET THREAD!!!!

 

 

It was in the paper in Alamogordo because it was NEWS in Alamogordo. No one else outside the city cared that industrial waste was being dumped in the town of Alamogordo. Atari's not going to issue a press release that they are dumping defective merchandise in a landfill for the world to know about. I am referring to at the time they dumped the merchandise they wouldn't want people to know about it, not now. The reasons were probably to prevent 1) scavengers at the landfill site 2) a low company morale 3) a bad public image of the company. As for keeping it a secret? Who says they are? Remember the Atari from 1983 is not the same as the Atari today. If they were still around, I am sure they would hesitate to promote the fact that they did it.

 

You seem to believe that this would be some big news event in a small town of 35,000+, and that loads of people should remember it. The only reason it made the news (and probably only for a couple of days) probably because the type & amount of waste that was being dumped, and where it originated from. Not because it was Atari, or because it was video game cartridges. The concern from these local towns people was why was garbage from Texas being dumped in New Mexico? That landfill was for New Mexico trash, and not out of state. In fact, there are many local government disputes today over garbage landfills and where the garbage originates from.

 

I think the assumption that this is some sort of big story in 1983, that everybody would recall the events is wrong.

[Lord Thag]

Ah, the ol' ET thread is alive and well I see. Just like herpes and the next door neighbors abandoned dog, it just..keeps..coming..back.....

[moycon]

The reasons were probably to prevent 1) scavengers at the landfill site 2) a low company morale 3) a bad public image of the company. As for keeping it a secret? Who says they are? Remember the Atari from 1983 is not the same as the Atari today. If they were still around, I am sure they would hesitate to promote the fact that they did it.

 

Well since the reporters story supposedly took place BEFORE and during the burial. I'd say it wasn't all that secret of an event. Which is why it's suprising no-one can collaborate it. And I relize the company these days is a tad different than in the 80's, which is also suprising considering that we have been in contact with employee's of Atari.....at that time, and none of them have any more information. No one saw anything. Hell the programmer of E.T. thinks that if it had happened...he'd have known about it. As it stands, even he thinks the story is made up. That is more intriguing evidence then the "bigfoot" photo's we have to convince us.

 

It was in the paper in Alamogordo because it was NEWS in Alamogordo. No one else outside the city cared that industrial waste was being dumped in the town of Alamogordo.

 

Heh....Wrong it was in the news everywhere. I lived in VA. The story was on TV and in magazines at the time....minus any evidence other than the story. We've been talking about this since grade school and yes I firmly believe that thousands of people remember this!! Everyone I talked to as a matter of fact. Though as I've said countless times...They only heard the story just like everyone else. Even a dude who worked for Atari but in England that I corresponded with had heard the story back in the day. Sorry...Atari was news back in the 80's. I can fondly recall news reports on the latest Atari games. I can distinctly remember an interview with the guy who programmed Porky's on the local news in VA!! And yes believe it or not, news reporters fly around in helicopters daily, just look up in the sky on your way to work....This isn't new...it's part of the job. That's what they are paid for.....and as far as I know. It's not absurd that they would do a fly-by over a landfill for a story. Convince yourself otherwise if you want. You won't convince a sensible person unless you go dig them carts up.

 

Have at it.

Edited June 13, 2006 by moycon

[Esc]

The reasons were probably to prevent 1) scavengers at the landfill site 2) a low company morale 3) a bad public image of the company. As for keeping it a secret? Who says they are? Remember the Atari from 1983 is not the same as the Atari today. If they were still around, I am sure they would hesitate to promote the fact that they did it.

 

Well since the reporters story supposedly took place BEFORE and during the burial. I'd say it wasn't all that secret of an event. Which is why it's suprising no-one can collaborate it. And I relize the company these days is a tad different than in the 80's, which is also suprising considering that we have been in contact with employee's of Atari.....at that time, and none of them have any more information. No one saw anything. Hell the programmer of E.T. thinks that if it had happened...he'd have known about it. As it stands, even he thinks the story is made up. That is more intriguing evidence then the "bigfoot" photo's we have to convince us.

 

It was in the paper in Alamogordo because it was NEWS in Alamogordo. No one else outside the city cared that industrial waste was being dumped in the town of Alamogordo.

 

Heh....Wrong it was in the news everywhere. I lived in VA. The story was on TV and in magazines at the time....minus any evidence other than the story. We've been talking about this since grade school and yes I firmly believe that thousands of people remember this!! Everyone I talked to as a matter of fact. Though as I've said countless times...They only heard the story just like everyone else. Even a dude who worked for Atari but in England that I corresponded with had heard the story back in the day. Sorry...Atari was news back in the 80's. I can fondly recall news reports on the latest Atari games. I can distinctly remember an interview with the guy who programmed Porky's on the local news in VA!! And yes believe it or not, news reporters fly around in helicopters daily, just look up in the sky on your way to work....This isn't new...it's part of the job. That's what they are paid for.....and as far as I know. It's not absurd that they would do a fly-by over a landfill for a story. Convince yourself otherwise if you want. You won't convince a sensible person unless you go dig them carts up.

 

Have at it.

 

I don't understand then why you are so skeptical if you remember it being on the news when you lived in VA? I've never heard about this back in 1983, the first I heard of this story was shortly after visiting AtariAge the first time. Unless you subscribe to the theory I don't believe it unless I see it myself.

 

News media share a news story, its not like every single media outlet is going to go out to a dump site and verify if the story is true. Why would the Alamogordo news reporter want to do a fly by (if they even have a helicopter), when all he said to the people at the dump was let me in to take some pictures? Why would other media question the fact that, hey, something is fishy about this story, lets verify it some more and do a fly-by with a helicopter. That's crazy. Do you think every single media outlet in the world headed to New York after 9/11 to confirm that the Twin Towers were still standing? I doubt it. I would have to say on a scale of importance, the 9/11 story is a 10 and the Atari is a 0. If the Atari story was on national news like you say, it was just passed around from media outlet to media outlet and reported just like most of the news reported today. We just have to put enough trust in the original story being true.

 

The guy who wrote the article provided enough information for us to believe that the story is true. What not is known is the exact contents of what was dumped, or exactly how much of it was dumped there.

 

So there are a bunch of Atari employees that don't remember the story, or don't believe it happened. So what? It doesn't mean it never happened. I think I should have heard of the story between 1983-2001, but I didn't. Talk to the right people, the people who handled the contract with the disposal company. Talk to the people at the disposal company that finalized the deal with Atari, they are the people to talk to, not the low level Atari employee at sector 7-G, or the guy who programmed the E.T. cartridge. All these people THINK they should have heard about something about the company they worked for, and rather than admit that "I didn't know that" or "I'm not sure", they'd rather say "It didn't happen."

[Spud]

That was a cool music video. Guess we have a band for Ataricon eh?

 

Helecopters for the Alamogordo Paper, heh, uh no, I don't think so, maybe a beat up jeep or something to go scope out a story. Besides the Holloman AFB is a a few miles down the road, there is no air traffic that wouldn't get shot down.

 

I wonder if there are siblings of the reporter, maybe she kept some of her photos over the years, there had to be more of them that the paper didn't run, maybe they are even hanging in a class room at a school where she apearantly was working before her death. Maybe look up the McQuiddy clan?

[moycon]

If the Atari story was on national news like you say, it was just passed around from media outlet to media outlet and reported just like most of the news reported today. We just have to put enough trust in the original story being true.

 

I don't trust it. Contrarary to what you might think...false stories get passed around THE WORLD. I think it's more likely that Atari pulled a fast one to get a huge tax write off that's all. They were probably party buddies with that reporter and had em whip up a false story after smoking some pot. It's funny, because I myself have done actual research...more-so in an effort to prove the story is true...and came up empty. You sit there arguing over and over why you think it's true...Honestly I don't care what you think. Get off your ass and prove it's true if you're so passionate about it.

 

You wont convince me by saying "It's true because I think it's true" and your excuse that there would be no proof is just lame. If it happened you should be able to find the evidence. We have evidence of crimes that happend decades ago, we can find proof that indians roamed this land hundreds of years ago, we have evidence that suggest dinosaurs ruled the Earth millions of years ago...proving your beliefs shouldn't be that hard. Less yappin, more action.

 

And Spud, I realize Alamogordo might have been in the boonies, but is there some law that says neighboring area's can't cover a story? I'm confused. So all the news that pertains to my county of Acworth, GA HAS to be covered by the Acworth Reporters Union??? No of course not. Where were all these reporters coming from that had to be kept in check??? Surely they all didnt all work for the Alamogordo Paper. Too many questions here unanswered to accept blindly. Even if it was lawfully impossible to fly a helicopter in that area, I still think someone could get a decnt photo or video ....and the evidence should be around. See this is my point, the true believers have to come up with some pretty far fetch theories on why there is no evidence. I dont care if there were zero reporters (Although according to the report there were so many reporters, security had to be hired) locals would have snapped pictures. When I was that age I took more pics than I do now as an adult. You dont think while all the local kids were stealing from this sea of ET's their wouldn't have captured a pic or two and after all these years...in spite of the fact they were obviously Atari fans, and I suspect would know of the conroversy....no one has come forward? Don't get me wrong. I have no problem believing a company would throw away still working equipment....we used to throw away dumb termals and old PC when i worked for NationsBank...I do not believe however Atari dumped millions of unopened perfectly good Atari carts....and then produced more of them a few months later. Trying to convince me otherwise without some tangible proof is futile.

 

You gotta know I love this thread!!!!

Edited June 13, 2006 by moycon

[Esc]

Sure, unchecked reporting goes on all the time. The story could be completely false. So what makes you claim that the story is false? Do you have any evidence otherwise? Talking to some former employee from England who doesn't remember it happened is your evidence? You make other claims, but you don't back them up with any evidence.

 

I'd love to see what information you have to prove the article is totally false. The original poster made me a believer, so, make me a non-believer with your "actual" research.

 

By the way, how come with your "actual" research you never came up with those newspaper stories from Alamagordo? Missed those?

Edited June 13, 2006 by Esc

[moycon]

The answers to all your question in that post you just made are scattered throughout this very thread!! LOL

 

I can see now that you are just being silly...and haven't even read the thread or not all of it. Granted it is pretty long. Please read the thread before engaging in additional conversation...and then I will be happy to provide the information I have via email so you can verify it your self...also I would be more than happy to help you research any new leads you come across.

 

Thanks.

[Esc]

The answers to all your question in that post you just made are scattered throughout this very thread!! LOL

 

I can see now that you are just being silly...and haven't even read the thread or not all of it. Granted it is pretty long. Please read the thread before engaging in additional conversation...and then I will be happy to provide the information I have via email so you can verify it your self...also I would be more than happy to help you research any new leads you come across.

 

Thanks.

 

Ok, I put my Sherlock cap on and spent another 2 hours re-reading the entire thread. Here's what I've found out.

 

1. You've found an image of big foot at the landfill (you're good).

2. You told all your friends you kissed Rosa, but she doesn't even know you exist.

3. You managed to find some left over Atari debris at the landfill by using google maps.

4. The reporter was going to finally spill all the details on the true story, but Sammy "The Bull" Gravano got to her first and whacked her.

 

Ok, I made up #4...

[moycon]

2. You told all your friends you kissed Rosa, but she doesn't even know you exist.

 

Rosa Laspina???

 

LOL That was in like 3rd grade. I had forgotten about that one.

 

I wonder if it would be feasable to write a book on this. The Atari E.T. Burial : Fact or Fiction.

I know Atari and E.T. are trademerked....but this would be non-fiction and writing about history so could you use the names and images in a book?

 

Idealy the book would be in 4 parts. The story as it was presented and some background. People who believe listing why they believe, people who don't believe listing why they don't believe, and a wrap up pretty much stating that the world may never know.

 

Hell Bigfoot has sold books by the millions..... Of course a bipedal apeman is more exciting than a landfill.

[HP Atari King of Michigan]

The ET carts are buried next to Jimmy Hoffa.

THERE YOU GO!!!

[Alamogordo Bound]

Hey. I'm really sorry, but I had big problems with the internet. Anyways, I'm back online obviously. To answer your question, I don't exactly know what the plans are. Ideally, dig the games up. Realistically, probably realize the impossibilities of the situation and just ask around and take in other road trip sites. But, I see there are some new ideas and stuff, so who knows?

[doctorclu]

A kinda related story, my dad and I used to like to dumpster dive in the Atari trash back when the service center was here in Arlington, Texas. Man those were fun days. Found a lot of Atari 2600 stuff, and sometimes some of the 8-bit computer stuff too.

[Rik]

Didnt they recycle plastics and other recyclable things back then?im pretty sure they did,Atari would have made a mint selling all that plastic and other stuff that made up those carts,seems stupid to me that they would just "BURY' all those carts,just a thought i had on this.

Edited June 15, 2006 by Rik

[Godzilla]

seems to me that if 'something seemed stupid' that was actually a pretty good reason FOR atari to do things back then. Still, as I said way back in the thread, I've seen evidence that it's real and NONE that it's fake. The honus is on the haters and I haven't seen them produce one shred of evidence to back up their doubting.

[MayDay]

To throw a little light on the "they wouldn't throw away good stuff" arguement... the company I formerly worked for was forced to move locations (because they couldn't pay rent) last week. When they moved, they threw out 25-50 fully functional computers w/ monitors, as well as a lot of good office furntiture that there were no longer employees to fill and use. No helicopters were overhead recording the event. Did it make the local paper? Couldn't tell you, it's possible, but doubtful. Regardless, since most of the stuff was scavaged from dumpsters, I doubt there is little remaining evidence of this incident in the way of photos or video. Only the few eyewitnesses who saw the whole thing go down remain as evidence.

 

Companies throw away stuff because it's easier or cheaper for them... even if the process is dumb. It happens. Did Atari do it? I think so, because there are old stories and grainy photos that (argueably) "recorded" the event. I hope our new visitors can help resolve this once and for all when they go to New Mexico. If not, then I hope some fresh arguements pop up or a new approach to proving/disproving the event happens.

 

-JD

[Albert]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but aparently the band winter green has been to the site. Well atleast they made a video of it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2Euyz5W3wc&search=atari%202600

They've definitely been to the site, as the ET cartridge featured near the beginning of the video was taken from AtariAge. Not sure if they got the idea for the video from this (and other) threads, would be amusing though if that were the case.

 

..Al