Dino Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Exactly like the one on the picture above? Yes. I know there are a lot of variations of this but they are definately the Bitcorp ones like in your picture. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1525823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 (edited) Thanks, Dino. Well, I would very much like to know who owns an original Bit Corp. Sea Monster besides Marco. Edited May 26, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1525945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Thanks, Dino. Well, I would very much like to know who owns an original Bit Corp. Sea Monster besides Marco. I'd be interested to see these too. Maybe the next category should be Fuji/bitcorp, since we're on the topic Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1525956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 (edited) Ah, the Italian rip-offs. I believe Rick and Marco own the complete series and I also saw someone selling a couple of these on the net once. Maybe Tom owns them too. And look what we got here: http://cgi.ebay.it/console-ATARI-2600-con-...8QQcmdZViewItem Nice Junior Black too. Edited May 26, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1525997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Ah, the Italian rip-offs. I believe Rick and Marco own the complete series and I also saw someone selling a couple of these on the net once. Maybe Tom owns them too. And look what we got here: http://cgi.ebay.it/console-ATARI-2600-con-...8QQcmdZViewItem Nice Junior Black too. How come you only have 8 of them listed on AA? What about Space Tunnel? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1526313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Ah, the Italian rip-offs. I believe Rick and Marco own the complete series and I also saw someone selling a couple of these on the net once. Maybe Tom owns them too. And look what we got here: http://cgi.ebay.it/console-ATARI-2600-con-...8QQcmdZViewItem Nice Junior Black too. How come you only have 8 of them listed on AA? What about Space Tunnel? Very interesting question. CVA 202 is indeed missing. It seems I never found any evidence of that one. I'll dig for it. Edited May 27, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1526517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Found this: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=942232 Must be something like: Tunnel Spazio (CVA202) Does anyone own this one? Please let me know. I'll be damned: The building is owned by Fujifilm Italia: http://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/inv...03_part_014.pdf Figures. Edited May 27, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1526519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Found this:http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=942232 Must be something like: Tunnel Spazio (CVA202) Does anyone own this one? Please let me know. I'll be damned: The building is owned by Fujifilm Italia: http://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/pdf/inv...03_part_014.pdf Figures. I have it Rom. I don't have it in front of me but I'll dig it out. In fact I have only ever seen 2, but I'm sure there are more. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1526958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 You have it? That's great. Please dig it up for me. I'm very curious about that label. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1527130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Ok, while Dino is searching for his Spazio, what company is next? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1528303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Ok, while Dino is searching for his Spazio, what company is next? Not the best scans, i admit. But it gives you an idea. I will do proper ones for your database soon. How about Spacevision/Supervision? Or are we not up to the pirate companies yet? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1529209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the picture, Dino! The title is added to our database now. No R10's for Bit Corp. and Fujistyle. About SpaceVision and Supervision: I really have no idea how many of each title are floating around. Perhaps Sandy or Marco can tell us more about that. What about Puzzy? Some of these are extremely rare. http://atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-TYPE...I-SOFT_LIB.html Especially the non Canadian PAL ones. Edited June 3, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1529457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Oh yeah I remember Marco showing me those stickered boxes. Rom, why do you have them listed under the box name? I think the sticker on the box is the actual name of the game, no? Is it Mission 3,000 A.D. on the cart or Phantom Tank? Is it Bobby is Going Home on the cart or is it Sea Monster? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1529512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Also why are they listed as Pal when the stickers say NTSC ?? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1529690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) In this case, I'm looking at the box only, not the sticker that's on it. They used these boxes to send away sone NTSC samples, but originally these boxes belonged to the Puzzy PAL versions of the titles that are printed on the box. Look at GameReset to see them. Edited June 4, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1529692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Rom, in all respect (and I mean it) I find this to be very confusing. The games are NTSC, but listed under PAL. The actual games are Mission 3,000 A.D. and Bobby is Going Home, but are listed under Phantom Tank and Sea Monster. If I used advance search for an NTSC Bobby is Going Home this will never turn up. I feel the sticker is the important part, just like an Atlantis II sticker on an Atlantis box. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1530043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) I can understand you're confused about this, but I think they just grabbed a (different titled) box and put a sticker on it to make clear which NTSC sample game was in it, before sending it away. It could have been any empty Bit Corp or Puzzy box lying around. These boxes were originally Puzzy PAL game boxes and they are my only reference at this moment, so I'll leave it like this. I asked Jens to dig up his sticker-less Puzzy PAL boxes (and their carts) and scan them for me. As soon as I receive these scans, I'll move the stickered ones to their stickered NTSC sample carts: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=18790 http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=19852 which, as you can see, were already correctly listed as NTSC games. So, what do you think? R10 for the PAL Puzzy carts? Edited June 5, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1530371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) I can understand you're confused about this, but I think they just grabbed a (different titled) box and put a sticker on it to make clear which NTSC sample game was in it, before sending it away. It could have been any empty Bit Corp or Puzzy box lying around. These boxes were originally Puzzy PAL game boxes and they are my only reference at this moment, so I'll leave it like this. I asked Jens to dig up his sticker-less Puzzy PAL boxes (and their carts) and scan them for me. As soon as I receive these scans, I'll move the stickered ones to their stickered NTSC sample carts: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=18790 http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=19852 which, as you can see, were already correctly listed as NTSC games. So, what do you think? R10 for the PAL Puzzy carts? I must admit I too thought they were NTSC when Marco posted them here years ago. If they are PAL, then they are R10s Edit: Out of curiosity Marco, where did you pick them up - Europe or the US? Edited June 6, 2008 by Dino Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1530798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 After reading Rom Hunter's post I think what he is saying is the sample carts are NTSC, but he's using the photo's of the boxes of them as fillers for the PAL carts that aren't associated with these sample carts. Back to Funvision. I have acquired a PAL V-Case Busy Police. I opened it up and found a Funvision chip inside. In the lot was a Dragon Attack that also had a Funvision chip. I would not be surprised if a lot of the Hi-Score/Action Hi-Tech Carts had Funvision chips inside. The PAL Busy Police is just another link in the long chain of Funvision/2600 Compatible/Zellers/Halley's Comet/K-Tel/Ultravision. Who else owns one? BTW I tried uploading a pic of Dragon Attack but this god damn software won't let me. It just stalls indefinitely althought my pic is only 306kB in size and it says the max single upload is 2MB. This really frustrates me. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1530843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) After reading Rom Hunter's post I think what he is saying is the sample carts are NTSC, but he's using the photo's of the boxes of them as fillers for the PAL carts that aren't associated with these sample carts. The perfect words. Thanks for the V-case info, Omega. BTW, I found this one on Ebay: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=20774 Any idea which game it is? I made the Puzzy PAL carts R10. Edited June 6, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1530984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 The second and third Time Warp scans were donated by FND. I don't remember where the first one came from. That's ok. that means there are <=3. Pangasinan's T Hnadle Time Warp now makes the tally 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1533003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Yep. Still R10. Ok, what's next? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1533194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 What about Concorde games ?? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1533631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 What about Concorde games ?? You and a collector in Netherlands have Grand Prix and another collector from here (can't remember who) has River Raid Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1533654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 What about Concorde games ?? You and a collector in Netherlands have Grand Prix and another collector from here (can't remember who) has River Raid And you my friend have a good memory Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/125289-pal-rarity-guide-r10s/page/4/#findComment-1533799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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