ColecoDan Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Excellent! Glad you got it so fast. What do you think of the overlays, by the way? Actually I am glad you asked. The overlays are amazing and I want you to produce them for every game including super action football (soccer). I believe coleco should have created their overlays with whatever you used they are definately stronger and will last longer than colecos produced overlays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Actually I am glad you asked. The overlays are amazing and I want you to produce them for every game including super action football (soccer). I believe coleco should have created their overlays with whatever you used they are definately stronger and will last longer than colecos produced overlays. Yeah, they're more durable, but there's a minor problem with these homebrew overlays: The silver back can peel off a little bit along the edges. It's definately not a big problem, especially when the overlay is actually installed on a Super Action Controller. I'm just saying you should handle the overlays with care, to keep them in pristine condition. If I do more SAC overlays, for whatever the game, I'll have to check for this slight defect with the silver back. I'll discuss it with my contact in Germany when the proper time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega_SHARK Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 If I do more SAC overlays, for whatever the game, I'll have to check for this slight defect with the silver back. I'll discuss it with my contact in Germany when the proper time comes. It's called "Delam" and the ink chips off the plastic due to the die cutting process. A laser cut label should have less chance of this problem, the burn from the laser will partially melt the ink to the plastic. If they are cutting the labels with steel rule die, you could also switch to a color of ink that has better adhesion properties. White is more commonly used as a "Back-up" color, and has less of a chipping problem. Any metallic ink has adhesion problems. Hope this helps in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 It's called "Delam" and the ink chips off the plastic due to the die cutting process. A laser cut label should have less chance of this problem, the burn from the laser will partially melt the ink to the plastic. If they are cutting the labels with steel rule die, you could also switch to a color of ink that has better adhesion properties. White is more commonly used as a "Back-up" color, and has less of a chipping problem. Any metallic ink has adhesion problems. Hope this helps in the future. Um, I just want to be absolutely clear on this: I'm talking about the back side of the overlay, not the front side. The back side of these homebrew SAC overlays have a silver finish, and that's where the chipping problem occurs. The front side has no chipping problem at all, and I expect the colors will last for many years. Anyway, I'll definately give this problem proper consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleco_master Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Could that be a real prototype? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 181049396394 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Could that be a real prototype? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 181049396394 A silver label for a prototype...Right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoDan Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Could that be a real prototype? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 181049396394 It could be a real prototype rom that they put in a cart but usually the prototypes didn't bother making labels for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 A silver label for a prototype...Right... My thoughts exactly. If there was even a remote chance that this was a real prototype, it would have been long gone by now. Unfortunately, someone will eventually bite on this and if they see this message, contact me so that I can dump it to prove that it's nothing more than the commercially released version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymiester Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Any idea as to what makes this R5 copy of Super Cobra so ULTRA Rare? Call me stupid...but it looks just like my $37 copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Any idea as to what makes this R5 copy of Super Cobra so ULTRA Rare? Call me stupid...but it looks just like my $37 copy. It called salesmanship. It works a lot of the time, especially when it's for something that someone really needs and wants for their collection, and I'm a prime example of this "when you gotta have it, you just gotta have it" thought process. Thankfully, I don't need this one as I got mine from Yurkie a couple years ago for roughly $24. $339 is ridiculous, however, and you'll see this one re-listed at a lower price when the auction ends without any takers and then re-listed again and again before the seller brings down the price to a more reasonable amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Any idea as to what makes this R5 copy of Super Cobra so ULTRA Rare? Call me stupid...but it looks just like my $37 copy. Even the salesman's name is to get attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymiester Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Yeah, I suspect we would find a dick under that skirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoDan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Nah I have talked to this girl before on email. I guess I have no proof it is a girl She overprices everything she wants to sell. She wanted to sell me Jungle hunt in a box without instructions and I was like well they can go to 300 on ebay sometimes but you don't have a manual so would you take $200. She was like I am not giving this stuff away and wanted $350. I was like if you hope to get those prices then you shouldn't talk to people you should just put your stuff on ebay. So I am not surprised that she wants a lot of money for a fairly common game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelliK111 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Nah I have talked to this girl before on email. I guess I have no proof it is a girl She overprices everything she wants to sell. She wanted to sell me Jungle hunt in a box without instructions and I was like well they can go to 300 on ebay sometimes but you don't have a manual so would you take $200. She was like I am not giving this stuff away and wanted $350. I was like if you hope to get those prices then you shouldn't talk to people you should just put your stuff on ebay. So I am not surprised that she wants a lot of money for a fairly common game. That's funny because she bids $0.99 on all of my auctions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Extremely rare Venture label variant here: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 380542249762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Extremely rare Venture label variant here: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 380542249762 It's amazing that for almost 30 years, we didn't know that this label variation existed (well some people obviously did) and now IIRC this will be the fourth one that I know to exist. Anyway, glad I have it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoDan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Extremely rare Venture label variant here: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 380542249762 Thanks alot J-F so much for my cheap purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Thanks alot J-F so much for my cheap purchase. Doesn't your heart just sink into oblivion when you see something of interest posted in this thread... especially when you already know about it! For some reason, I don't doubt that you will be the winner of this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Thanks alot J-F so much for my cheap purchase. I do have those wich I will soon sell - Venture "For CV & ADAM" label variant - Victory "For Colecovision" label variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I do have those wich I will soon sell - Venture "For CV & ADAM" label variant - Victory "For Colecovision" label variant I have them already, so it's all your's for the taking ColecoDan. I was hoping to get my other "stuff" before X-Mas, but I guess that will have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Who knew.. I've sold that version of Venture twice and only asked a couple bucks each time. I think I got $2 the first time in 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Could that be a real prototype? eBay Auction -- Item Number: 181049396394 This could be a real prototype. The Odyssey 2 protos for games like KC Munchkin look like this one, which is a Probe 2000/Odyssey game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoDan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Extremely rare Venture label variant here: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 380542249762 Well you didn't cost me as much money as I thought you were going to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 A silver label for a prototype...Right... What does the color of the label have to do with anything? My thoughts exactly. If there was even a remote chance that this was a real prototype, it would have been long gone by now. Unfortunately, someone will eventually bite on this and if they see this message, contact me so that I can dump it to prove that it's nothing more than the commercially released version. I'm sure that it is the final version, not a WIP, but it's real nonetheless. More of a sample copy than a true "prototype", but that's subjective. This could be a real prototype. The Odyssey 2 protos for games like KC Munchkin look like this one, which is a Probe 2000/Odyssey game. Exactly. And so does this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 WOW!!! I'm thinking after some quick addition that there is $1200 RETAIL worth of goods in this auction. Seeing that we're not dealing with retail and one large lot... maybe $750 max should do the trick. eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170972272441 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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