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I've been trying to find a way to use my xbox 360 mortal kombat arcade stick with the supergun. Still searching.

 

This is what I have:

 

Wonder how I can get this to work with the supergun.

 

Looks good. I like it. :thumbsup: :)

 

I think Reaperman can help you out. He makes pretty cool controllers and takes a lot about super guns. I believe he can help you out Here is his profile.

 

http://atariage.com/forums/user/17659-reaperman/

 

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I've been trying to find a way to use my xbox 360 mortal kombat arcade stick with the supergun. Still searching.

 

This is what I have:

[...]

 

Wonder how I can get this to work with the supergun.

 

Good news, it's actually pretty easy, and you might not even have to give up the 360 compatibility (though it's probably easier if you do)

warning: in re-reading this, I make it sound harder than it is.

 

Most superguns are neo geo compatible at their core, though often with extra buttons (make sure to check your supergun model for pinouts)

Assuming the supergun uses a da-15 connector (pictured below) like the neo geo does, it's super easy.

(note that these are also commonly called db-15 connectors, but that's not the 'most correct' name)

nbQLrlKm.jpg

 

 

All a neo geo or supergun controller really needs to do is connect signal pins on the joystick port to the ground pin on the joystick port via the microswitches in the controller. Meaning, if you took a paperclip directly to the supergun's joystick port, and stuck one end of it on the 'ground' pin (pin1) and the other end of the paperclip on the 'up' direction pin (pin 15), you would be correctly telling whatever game is hooked to the supergun to press 'up'

 

There are a lot of ways to wire up a controller to do that connection more easily, but here's a super great and lazy way to do it:

 

 

Buy a "da-15 breakout" board, like the one below and a da-15 cable. (make sure your genders on the adapter/cable are correct to get the right gender to your supergun). These things are great because they have nice easy, well labeled screw terminals instead of fiddly soldering. It also makes it easier to change out cables if they get damaged

 

qdUrmPqm.jpg

 

I stole the idea from the guy who made this stick, which I somehow wound up with. The breakout board goes inside your stick, and its cable will probably need to have a small hole poked in the case. Make a small hole on an edge, so you don't have to make a huge one for the cable connectors to pass through. That'd be ugly.

 

Now, get some wire and quick connects of the appropriate size for the mortal kombat stick's switches.

  • ...or attach new wire (solder, crimp, whatever) to the existing quick connects that are already there.
  • ...or cut the wires right off the board that's there and use the existing wires (if this is never going to need to be a 360 stick again.)
  • ...or wiring harnesses are commonly available with 'usb encoder' kits (get one that matches your stick type)

Also use braided wire, solid core wire is a pain in the rear for this.

 

The general theory of wiring one of these up, is that each button or stick input presses an individual switch, which connects a signal to a common ground pin.

See that extra third connector on each switch?--the one that's not used--keep it unused. That's the normally-closed connector, and we don't want it either.

We care about the "common ground" pin (the one hanging out on its own), and the normally-open connection (the other one that's currently used)

What we do is wire all the common ground pins together--yes, we really do this.

Then we provide an individual wire to each normally-open connection

 

I'm making this sound hard. Look at this instead:

nRRD7Hgm.jpg

 

Remember that supergun pinout we'll want to use? Well it's probably going to look a lot one of these two that are on a pic I stole from jnx below:

wcw6eiMm.png

 

All the grounds that are wired together, connect that to pin 1

  • Now start wiring the signal pins up. The directionals are pretty easy. *note that pressing the stick in a direction actually actuates the switch on the opposite side. Just press a direction and look at the back and you'll see it. 'Up' is on the bottom, left on the right, etc.
  • Now look at the buttons. Start, A,B,and C will be easy. Find them on the chart, connect their signal cables.
  • The trick is the rest of the buttons. 'D' on neo geo checks for one of two pins (for some stupid reason) . These are pins 4&9. Your 5 button controller will ALMOST CERTAINLY use one of the two D's for some extra button (check your supergun pinout, or start making educated guesses). Pin 2 is another good guess, based on the example pinout above.
  • Your supergun probably also has a 'coin' pin. It's often pretty nice to wire that up to the controller's select button, or something that's available. then you can add coins while seated, in the games which don't have freeplay mode

other things:

  • you should not need things from the pinout like +5v unless you use advanced things that need power, like an optical stick (which this is not).
  • Do pay attention to the 'kick' markings on a supergun pinout (like the right side one above). 'Kick harnesses' are how extra buttons are often wired to arcade boards, and your supergun may label extra buttons as such.
  • If the ground wires on the switches (as they are now) aren't currently wired together as a common ground, this stick may never be a 360 controller again. (it may currently do funny things with the ground, especially if the stick has a built-in turbo function). Sometimes they may get their own wire for ease of construction, but the board still treats them as common ground--check with a multimeter if future 360 functionality is important.

 

 

 

 

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Hi guys,

 

 

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Other unique features will be included to help newcomers meet the challenges these retro games present!

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INFORMATION

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Good news, it's actually pretty easy, and you might not even have to give up the 360 compatibility (though it's probably easier if you do)

warning: in re-reading this, I make it sound harder than it is.

 

Most superguns are neo geo compatible at their core, though often with extra buttons (make sure to check your supergun model for pinouts)

Assuming the supergun uses a da-15 connector (pictured below) like the neo geo does, it's super easy.

(note that these are also commonly called db-15 connectors, but that's not the 'most correct' name)

nbQLrlKm.jpg

 

 

All a neo geo or supergun controller really needs to do is connect signal pins on the joystick port to the ground pin on the joystick port via the microswitches in the controller. Meaning, if you took a paperclip directly to the supergun's joystick port, and stuck one end of it on the 'ground' pin (pin1) and the other end of the paperclip on the 'up' direction pin (pin 15), you would be correctly telling whatever game is hooked to the supergun to press 'up'

 

There are a lot of ways to wire up a controller to do that connection more easily, but here's a super great and lazy way to do it:

 

 

Buy a "da-15 breakout" board, like the one below and a da-15 cable. (make sure your genders on the adapter/cable are correct to get the right gender to your supergun). These things are great because they have nice easy, well labeled screw terminals instead of fiddly soldering. It also makes it easier to change out cables if they get damaged

 

qdUrmPqm.jpg

 

I stole the idea from the guy who made this stick, which I somehow wound up with. The breakout board goes inside your stick, and its cable will probably need to have a small hole poked in the case. Make a small hole on an edge, so you don't have to make a huge one for the cable connectors to pass through. That'd be ugly.

 

Now, get some wire and quick connects of the appropriate size for the mortal kombat stick's switches.

  • ...or attach new wire (solder, crimp, whatever) to the existing quick connects that are already there.
  • ...or cut the wires right off the board that's there and use the existing wires (if this is never going to need to be a 360 stick again.)
  • ...or wiring harnesses are commonly available with 'usb encoder' kits (get one that matches your stick type)

Also use braided wire, solid core wire is a pain in the rear for this.

 

The general theory of wiring one of these up, is that each button or stick input presses an individual switch, which connects a signal to a common ground pin.

See that extra third connector on each switch?--the one that's not used--keep it unused. That's the normally-closed connector, and we don't want it either.

We care about the "common ground" pin (the one hanging out on its own), and the normally-open connection (the other one that's currently used)

What we do is wire all the common ground pins together--yes, we really do this.

Then we provide an individual wire to each normally-open connection

 

I'm making this sound hard. Look at this instead:

nRRD7Hgm.jpg

 

Remember that supergun pinout we'll want to use? Well it's probably going to look a lot one of these two that are on a pic I stole from jnx below:

wcw6eiMm.png

 

All the grounds that are wired together, connect that to pin 1

  • Now start wiring the signal pins up. The directionals are pretty easy. *note that pressing the stick in a direction actually actuates the switch on the opposite side. Just press a direction and look at the back and you'll see it. 'Up' is on the bottom, left on the right, etc.
  • Now look at the buttons. Start, A,B,and C will be easy. Find them on the chart, connect their signal cables.
  • The trick is the rest of the buttons. 'D' on neo geo checks for one of two pins (for some stupid reason) . These are pins 4&9. Your 5 button controller will ALMOST CERTAINLY use one of the two D's for some extra button (check your supergun pinout, or start making educated guesses). Pin 2 is another good guess, based on the example pinout above.
  • Your supergun probably also has a 'coin' pin. It's often pretty nice to wire that up to the controller's select button, or something that's available. then you can add coins while seated, in the games which don't have freeplay mode

other things:

  • you should not need things from the pinout like +5v unless you use advanced things that need power, like an optical stick (which this is not).
  • Do pay attention to the 'kick' markings on a supergun pinout (like the right side one above). 'Kick harnesses' are how extra buttons are often wired to arcade boards, and your supergun may label extra buttons as such.
  • If the ground wires on the switches (as they are now) aren't currently wired together as a common ground, this stick may never be a 360 controller again. (it may currently do funny things with the ground, especially if the stick has a built-in turbo function). Sometimes they may get their own wire for ease of construction, but the board still treats them as common ground--check with a multimeter if future 360 functionality is important.

 

 

 

 

Can I just wire it to the board itself?

 

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Can I just wire it to the board itself?

 

 

Yep, sure can, but that could get pretty annoying to use or store. Best to use the handy, built-in neo geo style connectors for tangle-free, easy-storing goodness that won't fuse itself into a giant knot, IMO.

 

There are lots of ways to handle the controller issue, and as long as you're connecting your signals to the ground in some way, it'll work out great.

 

Often times, those secondary terminal blocks are for hooking up kick harnesses to connect extra button signals from the arcade board, to pass them out the controller port. So it looks like you get your choice of which of the unused pins become your extra button(s) on that one.

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Yep, sure can, but that could get pretty annoying to use or store. Best to use the handy, built-in neo geo style connectors for tangle-free, easy-storing goodness that won't fuse itself into a giant knot, IMO.

 

There are lots of ways to handle the controller issue, and as long as you're connecting your signals to the ground in some way, it'll work out great.

 

Often times, those secondary terminal blocks are for hooking up kick harnesses to connect extra button signals from the arcade board, to pass them out the controller port. So it looks like you get your choice of which of the unused pins become your extra button(s) on that one.

Yeah, I'll only use it for testing and waiting for stock to come in when I buy it. I'll def go the connector route you posted earlier, once I get them in.

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And this as well.

 

 

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