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On 7/17/2023 at 12:45 PM, SoulBuster said:

Pogo Joe (1983)(Intelligent Statements)(US)[disk]

Not sure what the sticker means, "XL MASTER 3/9/84"

 

Just in case, might be a good idea to dump the back side.

 

 

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I like it.  Unfortunately, the disk in question is completely blank and I am returning it for a refund.  Good for future reference.

 

(Re: Dumping disks with multiple index holes)

Are you sure it is blank? Did you try reading the disk with an Atari drive? Or you just made an image with SCP using Splice mode?

 

If it was the latter, then it is possible that your HD drive is refusing to work without detecting an index pulse at a reasonable rate. This is similar as if you would try to read the flippy side. You will get no data at all from the drive.

 

In such case you can either make a simple ATR image with Atari hardware. Or either use an older PC (not HD) drive with SCP and Splice mode. Most older 360K PC drives don't require any index pulse at all. Of course, if you are willing to somehow hide the extra index holes as suggested, then that would be great.

 

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Shooting Arcade (1982)(Datasoft)(US)[cassette] - Set #2

 

Included is a non-original disk that came in the package. I did not test anything on it, except pulling up a directory to make sure it copied. 

 

Autoload cassette without BASIC.

 

Shooting Arcade (1982)(Datasoft)(US)[cassette] - Set #2.zip

Shooting Arcade Instructions.pdf

Shooting Arcade Warranty.pdf

 

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30 minutes ago, ijor said:

 

Just in case, might be a good idea to dump the back side.

 

 

 

(Re: Dumping disks with multiple index holes)

Are you sure it is blank? Did you try reading the disk with an Atari drive? Or you just made an image with SCP using Splice mode?

 

If it was the latter, then it is possible that your HD drive is refusing to work without detecting an index pulse at a reasonable rate. This is similar as if you would try to read the flippy side. You will get no data at all from the drive.

 

In such case you can either make a simple ATR image with Atari hardware. Or either use an older PC (not HD) drive with SCP and Splice mode. Most older 360K PC drives don't require any index pulse at all. Of course, if you are willing to somehow hide the extra index holes as suggested, then that would be great.

 

Backside of Pogo Joe has 720 missing sectors, so unformatted.

 

I tried to copy Invasion Orion on real hardware using Copymate and every sector is bad or unformatted, returning.  Same with Math Busters, returning that one too.

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20 hours ago, SoulBuster said:

Here is a Re-Record.  Copymate XE still shows 1 bad sector.

 

BackTalk 1.2.zip 4.79 MB · 3 downloads

This was expected.

That mastering error is on the disk and therefore it doesn't matter how you dump it. There will always be a second t30 sector 16 and thus a missing sector 18.

I suspect that my comment in this posting confused you (as it did ijor).
I did not question the missing sector 18 but only saw a very small chance that the duplicate sector 16 was caused by the "splice-read" - which meanwhile is proven to be wrong.

Inline with your latest dump from 4h ago, a fixed ATX which reflects the differences in track alignment between the "slice-dump" and the new "index-dump":

Backtalk v1.2 (1985)(Antic Software)(US)(Side A)[f].atx

(Sector data is identical to my first fix and thus also the derived ATR.)

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4 minutes ago, SoulBuster said:

I just downloaded it and it is fine.  Try again.

Downloaded it three times with no success.

7Zip tells me about header errors and creates all files but all except three with 0 bytes size.
Windows Explorer also gives an error.

 

Linux unzip: 

# unzip hi.zip
Archive:  hi.zip
  inflating: Home Inventory Box Back.jpg
  inflating: Home Inventory Box Bottom.jpg
  inflating: Home Inventory Box Front.jpg
file #4:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  5985911
file #5:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  6697359
file #6:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  7365044
file #7:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  7877376
file #8:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10595726
file #9:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10639361
file #10:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10685204
file #11:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10732390
file #12:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10773952
file #13:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  10804883
file #14:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  37833260
file #15:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  37875434
file #16:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  64734047
file #17:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  64734187
file #18:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  65358397

 

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On 4/4/2023 at 4:01 PM, SoulBuster said:

APX 20083 - My First Alphabet (1982-03)(APX)(US)[BASIC][disk]

 

Requires BASIC. I do not know how to configure Altirra to boot it.  Please reply with your configuration if you can get it to boot.

Does the physical disk work?

 

This is the copy protected version as it was released by Atari but without sector 367 being bad.

Therefore it fails protection and keeps rebooting.

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On 7/23/2023 at 11:37 AM, DjayBee said:

Does the physical disk work?

 

This is the copy protected version as it was released by Atari but without sector 367 being bad.

Therefore it fails protection and keeps rebooting.

It does the same thing on real hardware.

 

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On 7/17/2023 at 5:42 PM, SoulBuster said:

Maxi Golf (1984)(Adventure International)(US)[disk]

 

Boot without BASIC.

 

This disk has physical damage on the surface of both sides.  I took several recordings.  I hope these can help with another set.

Yep, they could.

I had created a pair of Frankendisks six years ago and could happily repair your dumps taking the needed 13 sectors from them.
In the end only the two bad sectors differ between my handcrafted disks and your repaired dump. :)

 

Maxi Golf Side 1 Try 1[f].atx

Maxi Golf Side 2 Try 1[f].atx

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On 7/7/2021 at 3:14 PM, SoulBuster said:

Concorde's Atari Compatible DOS XL 2.30 - My side B was unformatted, but the label was there.

Do you have a DD capable drive and did you try to boot side B there?

 

ATX currently does not support DD disks. I have not tried to convert a DD flux image but not detecting anything on a DD flux dump would be a valid option in this case.

 

On 5/23/2023 at 4:57 PM, SoulBuster said:

CPS 1050 Diagnostic Disk Rev. 02 (198x)(Atari)(US)[BASIC][disk]

 

Boot with BASIC.

 

Can you please redo this disk in INDEX mode?

For a diagnostic disk this might be worth the effort.

 

Oh, and I see no need for BASIC with this title.

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On 3/7/2023 at 7:31 PM, SoulBuster said:

Forms Generator (1986)(Twenty-Fifth Century)(US)[disk]

This disk misses the needed copy protection which should be a bad sector. If you select a printer, a copyright screen shows up and the system reboots.

Forms Generator (1986)(Twenty-Fifth Century)(US)[disk][f].atx

 

Weird-o-Fact:

This is the second dump of this program and the third from this company which shows this error.

 

Can you please try if this disk works on hardware?

I really don't want to believe that several non-working disks were sold.

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