+MrFish Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, phaeron said: The only issue with speaker emulation for XL/XE machines is that it would be emulating a hardware configuration that doesn't exist. There is no XL/XE machine with an internal console speaker. But otherwise, the only reason you can't enable the speaker emulation in XL/XE mode in Altirra is that I put in a check to force disable it. Alright, so at least the unreality is possible without much difficulty. Edited August 28, 2022 by MrFish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, phaeron said: The only issue with speaker emulation for XL/XE machines is that it would be emulating a hardware configuration that doesn't exist. There is no XL/XE machine with an internal console speaker. But otherwise, the only reason you can't enable the speaker emulation in XL/XE mode in Altirra is that I put in a check to force disable it. I feel that's the right decision. As much as I like to play with fantasy hardware in emulation, like a 1GHz Apple II, having added a XL/XE speaker would have felt wrong. Somehow. Like adding DHGR to an Apple II+. The feature is simply not part of the real machine's personality. It was one of the first things I looked at, could it be enabled on the 130XE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 hours ago, phaeron said: The 800 speaker emulation (Configure System > Outputs > Audio > Simulate console speaker) modifies the sound rendering of console speaker sounds to simulate the acoustics of the 2" speaker inside of the 800's case, which has some significant muffling and resonance. It's implemented by FFT convolution of the raw output with a step impulse that I recorded from an 800 with a microphone. Wow. You are getting a little bit carried away my friend! That's just insane, and you have made me add to my list of things to do the following: "Get out my 800 and model the speaker next to Altirra in several configs"!. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 One of the first things I did after trying the internal speaker was to see if it worked on the XL / XE range and was happy to find it didn't. I prefer that my big old beast 800 is the only machine that can do it..Makes it a wee bit more special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canalboy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I have never been able to open Atirra in either 4.0 or 4.1 versions on Windows 10. Whatever I do it always crashes with "The emulated system has stopped due to a program error." The debugger provides Target: Main CPU PC = 0055 (0055) A = FE X = 01 Y = AA S = FF P = B1 N----C and COLCRS KIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Canalboy said: I have never been able to open Atirra in either 4.0 or 4.1 versions on Windows 10. Whatever I do it always crashes with "The emulated system has stopped due to a program error." The debugger provides Target: Main CPU PC = 0055 (0055) A = FE X = 01 Y = AA S = FF P = B1 N----C and COLCRS KIL. Tools > Options > Settings > Reset All Settings. You've got something screwed up in your config, like either an extraneous device or cartridge, or an invalid firmware selected. Out of the box the emulator should boot to the boot / self-test screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Landing on a KIL instruction, never good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsCool Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 hours ago, phaeron said: Tools > Options > Settings > Reset All Settings. You've got something screwed up in your config, like either an extraneous device or cartridge, or an invalid firmware selected. Out of the box the emulator should boot to the boot / self-test screen. This procedure saved my ass multiple times, haha. When in doubt, always reset the configuration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Speaking of resetting all setting. I've just set up a new PC, clean OS install. On my emulation laptop I'd been using for coding, I have a nice profile for an Atari which matches my ultra modded 1088XLD (VBXE, U1MB, stereo, etc.) Is there a way I can copy that profile onto this new machine rather than setting it up again? not that it takes very long to setup, but if possible, I will make that part of my backup so I can always have it handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Stephen said: Speaking of resetting all setting. I've just set up a new PC, clean OS install. On my emulation laptop I'd been using for coding, I have a nice profile for an Atari which matches my ultra modded 1088XLD (VBXE, U1MB, stereo, etc.) Is there a way I can copy that profile onto this new machine rather than setting it up again? not that it takes very long to setup, but if possible, I will make that part of my backup so I can always have it handy. Just switch Altirra to Portable mode and you can copy your settings file over to your new system. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Or export the registry key and then import it on the new machine, the portable mode is easier (and safer) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 https://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-4.10-test19.ziphttps://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-4.10-test19-src.7z Custom devices can now set the priority of memory layers created. VFS path syntax is now documented in command-line help, and the .loadmem and .loadobj debugger commands now take VFS paths. Alt+click error decoding now works with MyDOS errors. New debugger .error command to do the same error code decoding as Alt+click. Speaker emulation sample updated with a better sample. Turns out that the sample used in the previous version for 800 speaker emulation had been written out at the wrong sampling rate, so it was higher in pitch than it should have been. 4.10-test19 has the sample redone at the correct pitch. 7 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, phaeron said: Turns out that the sample used in the previous version for 800 speaker emulation had been written out at the wrong sampling rate, so it was higher in pitch than it should have been. 4.10-test19 has the sample redone at the correct pitch. can you rip it to mp3 and compare it? I put the binary. I have to admit that 800 sounds great ... xxl800test.mp3 xxl800test.obx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Music coming out of an emulated mini speaker sounds great? I love the fact the speaker is emulated but playing music on it sounds a bit odd to me.. Horses for courses I guess.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 small issue: -enable stereo mode -enable downmixing to mono -disable stereo mode -OK ->crash using 4.10 test 18 (doesn't seem to save the downmixing setting either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, xxl said: can you rip it to mp3 and compare it? I put the binary. I have to admit that 800 sounds great ... xxl800test.mp3 xxl800test.obx 16.11 kB · 1 download Here are four recordings: Atari 800, recorded with a Blue Snowball iCE above the keyboard. Atari 130XE through a Commodore 1702, recorded with a Blue Snowball iCE. Altirra running with speaker emulation off. Altirra running with speaker emulation on. Having trouble with the Editor widget screwing up the audio clips, so check the filenames. Note that the hardware recordings are open-air recordings through a mic while the emulator recordings are tapped off the emulator's mixer, so they don't quite compare. xxltest-hardware-130xe.mp3 xxltest-hardware-800.mp3 xxltest-altirra-130xe.mp3 xxltest-altirra-800.mp3 Edited September 8, 2022 by phaeron buggy editor widget 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) Crash confirmed...(Not that I don't believe Rensoup, just a different machine confirmation) Edited September 8, 2022 by Mclaneinc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 8:15 PM, pseudografx said: Just switch Altirra to Portable mode and you can copy your settings file over to your new system. Thanks again - finally did this and it worked great. I've also added the .ini to my backups, and this is forcing me to standardize my file locations for coding across multiple machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 https://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-4.10-test20.ziphttps://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-4.10-test20-src.7z Fixed a crash when disabling stereo with the downmix-stereo-to-mono option enabled. Optimizations and fixes to FLAC decoding. Added 8bpp graphics visualization mode to debugger memory pane. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Any chance of having a breakpoint summary window ? with the ability to enable/disable them. It's difficult to keep track of them right now as you have to use a command line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Possible bug? Altirra seems to have lost the remembering last ATR loaded, if I change from PAL to NTSC or vice versa it just clears the drive.. Bug or design? Ignore, managed to get it set to temporary profile again.. Unticked, all good... Edited September 18, 2022 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Ok, Got some strange things happening. Ever since Updating to test 20, WHenever I try to load the cart version of Miner 2049er it switches the system (be it 400/800, XL, XE, XEGS or 1200XL) to 5200, and the start button and the joysticks do not work. Have not tried a disk version, but the cart version is driving me nuts. UPDATE: Found the problem. Apparently the version in the archive I was using, whoever put it together did slip the 5200 version in with all the others being 8-bit roms. Went to another archive I had, loaded it in and it worked fine. Sorry for wasting time and bandwith. Edited September 20, 2022 by scotty Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Hey, we all make mistakes, no harm, no foul.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Mclaneinc said: Hey, we all make mistakes, no harm, no foul.. Hi Paul! Long time no talk. Hope you are doing well over there. Sorry about the passing of the Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Hello back...We are all doing the best we can, all this war and supply issues do not help, but we crack on. To be honest, I'm not really a Royalist, I'm not anti the Queen, she seemed a nice lady, but I look at the monarchy ad see many a person that would push you under a bus sooner than look at you. For me, they have lost a bit of the shine they had. I hope Ohio is keeping you and yours well. Turned on my Atari the other day and it would not boot, it had been sat unused so long some oxidation had set in, a little reseat and all was well..Gave me a mini scare.. You take care... Paul.. Best greetings from a mild old UK.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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