Gunther Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 11/16/2021 at 6:19 PM, jgkspsx said: FYI, you don’t even get the download for $50. Just the cart. Yes you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+jgkspsx Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Gunther said: Yes you do. This was based on the early information they gave initially. It changed. My orders have shipped!! I am going to order the limited edition Yars Revenge and Gravitar. (Assuming the artwork is good.) I will live with the spine art OCD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadir Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 15 hours ago, jgkspsx said: This was based on the early information they gave initially. It changed. My orders have shipped!! I am going to order the limited edition Yars Revenge and Gravitar. (Assuming the artwork is good.) I will live with the spine art OCD. My order was supposed to be delivered today. Had to leave the house briefly, got home, check the mailbox. Stuffed full of junk, but no Atari package. Checked tracking and it got stalled at a nearby distribution center overnight. Sigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockduck Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) So good news is my standard edition Aquaventure arrived today, and the box looked nice along with the cart. The bad news is the cart doesn't play in any of my 2600s, tested on a long rainbow, 6 switch, 4 switch, and 7800. Additionally, the manual has a printing error where the writing about the history of Aquaventure is cut off and not completed on a subsequent page. I have video of it on a different television in an unlisted video here: I notice another person who received one, A Yars' Return, experienced a similar issue and mentioned it on Reddit: Anyone have a positive experience to share of the actual cart working through original hardware? Edited September 3, 2022 by Mockduck 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockduck Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 More indication this is widespread this person picked up all three and none work in multiple 2600s: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DamonicFury Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Good news: I got my Aquaventure cart today. Box, cart, and manual look nice. Bad news: The cart doesn’t seem to work. Tried it so far on my 7800 and 5200 with adapter. Guess I should try hooking up a 2600, but I’m not at all optimistic that will make a difference. Don’t love the manual contents either. Not only is there no explanation of the game variations, but the game factoids section is incomplete. (See photo) EDIT: Looks like I’m just confirming Mockduck’s findings. Wow, unbelievable that the non-working carts are so widespread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DamonicFury Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 A little hard to believe they didn’t test these at all… BUT maybe they installed the PCBs backwards during cart assembly? EDIT: Confirmed this is exactly what happened. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DamonicFury Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Cart works fine now post-reassembly. Pretty minimal damage to the label. Used a hair dryer to loosen the glue enough to get at the screw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsiddall Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DamonicFury said: A little hard to believe they didn’t test these at all… BUT maybe they installed the PCBs backwards during cart assembly? EDIT: Confirmed this is exactly what happened. Well, the label is rubbish anyway. Looks like they laminated it or something. I have air-bubbles in mine. Guess it wouldn't be a big deal to remove. Edited September 3, 2022 by rsiddall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Great quality control there. I really feel bad for people spending their money on this shit. I sure hope they make fix this. Should have had Albert handle the carts, labels, manuals, and boxes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Thunder Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Stephen said: Great quality control there. I really feel bad for people spending their money on this shit. I sure hope they make fix this. Should have had Albert handle the carts, labels, manuals, and boxes. Agree 100%. Really makes you appreciate the level of effort Albert goes to, with the quality of every cart he's ever sold. They all look brand new like they were manufactured yesterday, from the cases to the labels to the printing on everything. This XP crap - well, it's what you get for supporting a sloppy, questionable, pseudo-scam company selling others' work for profit with no thanks to the folks that made all this possible in the first place. I'm not saying I don't support buying retro atari stuff, I do... It's just a shame that all of our worst fears about XP turned out to be oh so true. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) The Limited editions have turned out just fine. The standard editions' though... I'm sure this will be rectified. The developers have worked on these games, and have beem credited and paid. Stop lying. This also shows that the game has been improved, proving that real effort has actually gone into these. These are unique to ATARI XP. Edited September 4, 2022 by Gunther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Just now, Gunther said: The Limited editions have turned out just fine. The standard editions' though... I'm sure this will be rectified. The devopers have worked on these games, and have beem credited and paid. Stop lying. Who is lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Hydro Thunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Just to clarify, I think ATARI have really dropped-the-ball on the standard editions, and agree that anyone woi bought them should be understandably annoyed after waiting patiently for them to arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gunther said: Hydro Thunder. I assume he's talking about the original developers of Yars' Revenge, Aquaventure, and Saboteur, but if those games were written by people employed by Atari at the time, they were already paid for working on them, so that's a non-issue. I'm sure whoever worked on Yars' Return was paid, not sure if any significant changes were done to the other two. I won't really comment on all this further except to say I'm rather astounded at what's happened here, and I would be embarrassed if I ever released games and printed materials that have these issues. ..Al 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I agree, Albert. It's sub-par, and not to Atari Age's exacting standards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadir Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Well, kind of glad I didn't get mine first. I don't think I would have even thought about the PCB being upside down. Mine's a standard edition, so we'll see when it gets here (as I go warm up my heat gun)! OK, I can get maybe not testing every single one in a large scale production, but I bet ANY sample size would have caught that issue... And yes indeed, thank you Albert for the attention to detail over all the years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 The labels even look poorly cut and peeling on the corners. It looks very close to a certain unnamed guy who puts stupid head logos in the corner *COUGHCOUGH* and not a professional production like AA's work. Real shame! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Wowee. That is a really embarrassing development and will likely be financially painful for them. I wonder how many units they will need to service… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Thunder Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Gunther said: Hydro Thunder. If you're going to call me out for "lying", I'm going to ask you again point blank - what is your financial or other professional involvement with this company? I asked you months ago and you dropped off the board suddenly. I'm not saying you're a shill - you've gone way beyond that point now by directly accusing me of lying. I'm saying you're an employee of the company representing them without admitting to it. So just admit to it. " The Limited editions have turned out just fine. The standard editions' though... I'm sure this will be rectified. The developers have worked on these games, and have beem credited and paid. Stop lying. This also shows that the game has been improved, proving that real effort has actually gone into these. These are unique to ATARI XP." I mean, I could go line by line and accuse you of the same, but there's not much point until you answer my first question and tell the truth. And get to work on interviewing each recipient of the Limited Editions to back up your first claim, then we'll move to the 2nd and so forth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SabertoothRetro Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 This is really unfortunate. I'm on the west coast so mine are still days away. I really want Atari to succeed with this initiative and hope the issue is not as widespread as it appears. I can appreciate the disappointment of the folks who have received problem carts. This should not have happened. Even the copy (manual) and reported label quality issues are unacceptable. Let's see how Atari responds. Also, on the VCS Discord, Atari reps have indicated that they are aware of the issue(s) and said to contact them. "If you purchased one and have an issue make sure to send in a support request so we can get it fixed as soon as we have an update https://atari.com/pages/contact" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SabertoothRetro Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Here's another Ltd. Edition unboxing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I guess my question is… did anybody get one that wasn’t wrong yet? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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