Nall3k Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, jgkspsx said: I guess my question is… did anybody get one that wasn’t wrong yet? Yes, BHG and GenX. But they bought and received the limited editions. Someone pointed out that because of the way those cartridges are, the PCB board was put in the same way for both LE and standard editions. Limited editions appear to be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Nall3k said: Limited editions appear to be fine. I mean the regular edition, though. Sounds like they are 100% wrong? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, jgkspsx said: I mean the regular edition, though. Sounds like they are 100% wrong? Sounds like it. I saw that Reddit post and immediately thought it was a pretty bad sign that the first post I'd seen by anyone anywhere about the XP games was that theirs didn't work. But what do we expect? These are only shipping what, 6 months behind schedule? If we learned anything from the VCS, it's that that's not nearly enough time for Atari to get things right. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nall3k Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 hours ago, KaeruYojimbo said: Sounds like it. I saw that Reddit post and immediately thought it was a pretty bad sign that the first post I'd seen by anyone anywhere about the XP games was that theirs didn't work. But what do we expect? These are only shipping what, 6 months behind schedule? If we learned anything from the VCS, it's that that's not nearly enough time for Atari to get things right. I think it's an issue of not having enough staff. They have 20 (?) employees for VCS, XP, games, and the whole NFT/crypto thing. That's a lot for 20 people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Nall3k said: I think it's an issue of not having enough staff. They have 20 (?) employees for VCS, XP, games, and the whole NFT/crypto thing. That's a lot for 20 people. I'll remember that the next time I screw up at work. Doesn't matter that the customer has paid for something. I'll just tell them "meh - it's a lot of work for me" and I'm sure they'll understand. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Nall3k said: I think it's an issue of not having enough staff. They have 20 (?) employees for VCS, XP, games, and the whole NFT/crypto thing. That's a lot for 20 people. Don't bite off more than you can chew. You can fault whoever actually made the carts, which I assume Atari outsourced, but ultimately it's Atari's responsibility to make sure the products they send out actually work. Someone there needed to go on eBay and buy an actual 2600 and test a couple of carts before sending them out. I'm waiting to see what their response is (so far nothing on their website or Twitter). I want to see a complete no-cost replacement, with Atari covering the cost to return the faulty games and to ship replacements. For those who want to fix the carts on their own (rather than wait until 2023 to get their game), Atari should offer free replacement labels to anyone who ends up damaging the label when they remove it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1986 Atari Corp called, they want their Quality Assurance Dept back. Wow, just wow. I should be shocked, but I am not. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennervision Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Just received the following email... Quote REGARDING YOUR XP PURCHASE Dear Customer, We have discovered that some of the Atari XP cartridges shipped last week were not assembled to our quality standards and as a result may not operate correctly in your Atari 2600 console. No action is required on your part at this time. We are working on a solution to ensure you have a working cartridge and you will hear from us soon. Our sincere apologies. Atari Team Edited September 5, 2022 by rennervision 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 "Please open your cartridge, potentially destroy the label, and turn the PCB 180 degrees" instructions incoming in 3...2.... Maybe they'll actually send replacement labels, but I'd not be shocked if they didn't. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennervision Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 As I mentioned in another thread, my Yars' Return was also shrink wrapped so tight it left a dent in the box. So that was disappointing, but little did I know that was about to be the least of my problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, rennervision said: We have discovered that some all of the Atari XP cartridges shipped last week were not assembled to our quality standards and as a result may will not operate correctly in your Atari 2600 console. FTFY 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cebus Capucinis said: "Please open your cartridge, potentially destroy the label, and turn the PCB 180 degrees" instructions incoming in 3...2.... Maybe they'll actually send replacement labels, but I'd not be shocked if they didn't. I'm setting a calendar event for 10 years from now. It'll be a reminder to check eBay for OMG L@@K RARE MFG ERROR FIRST EDITION GRAIL copies of these games being sold at exorbitant prices. Sometimes you just have to plan the lulz out in advance. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: It'll be a reminder to check eBay for OMG L@@K RARE MFG ERROR FIRST EDITION GRAIL copies of these games being sold at exorbitant prices. And I'm going to start a new eBay scam where I buy fixed copies cheap, flip the PCBs and sell them as rare first edition error copies for exorbitant prices. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Hydro Thunder said: If you're going to call me out for "lying", I'm going to ask you again point blank - what is your financial or other professional involvement with this company? I asked you months ago and you dropped off the board suddenly. I'm not saying you're a shill - you've gone way beyond that point now by directly accusing me of lying. I'm saying you're an employee of the company representing them without admitting to it. So just admit to it. " The Limited editions have turned out just fine. The standard editions' though... I'm sure this will be rectified. The developers have worked on these games, and have beem credited and paid. Stop lying. This also shows that the game has been improved, proving that real effort has actually gone into these. These are unique to ATARI XP." I mean, I could go line by line and accuse you of the same, but there's not much point until you answer my first question and tell the truth. And get to work on interviewing each recipient of the Limited Editions to back up your first claim, then we'll move to the 2nd and so forth. Yars' Returns has been updated, and yiu can ask Dennis Debro to confirm this if you wish. It's also confirmed in hus interview with ATARI XP, which can be found on the ATARI XP website. Mockduck has played Aquaventure, noting differences from the prototype on this forum. You can ask Dennis Debro if he was paid too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Gunther said: Yars' Returns has been updated, and yiu can ask Dennis Debro to confirm this if you wish. It's also confirmed in hus interview with ATARI XP, which can be found on the ATARI XP website. Mockduck has played Aquaventure, noting differences from the prototype on this forum. You can ask Dennis Debro if he was paid too. More proof these games have been updated. I can keep doing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 All the Limited Editions are fine; no complaints yet. Embarrasing as it is, ATARI has already offered to rectify the problem. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric-Dreams Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Gunther said: All the Limited Editions are fine; no complaints yet. Embarrasing as it is, ATARI has already offered to rectify the problem. Done. Not Done. Waiting to be done. Not the same. By the way ... Who are you? Some kind of weird Atari PR? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I was referring to proving I wasn't lying; which I did. And that's none of your business. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Gunther said: And that's none of your business. A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice, Gunther. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 @Gunther: don't play passive-aggressive games and it won't be necessary to do something as distasteful as posting a conversation (no matter how bizarre) carried out in private messages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 hours ago, KaeruYojimbo said: And I'm going to start a new eBay scam where I buy fixed copies cheap, flip the PCBs and sell them as rare first edition error copies for exorbitant prices. Make sure to get them VGA graded as well! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, x=usr(1536) said: @Gunther: don't play passive-aggressive games and it won't be necessary to do something as distasteful as posting a conversation (no matter how bizarre) carried out in private messages. It's not that bizarre really. I answered your question honestly. I was still right about ATARI XP though, so... You'll likely post my next reply too... Edited September 5, 2022 by Gunther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Cebus Capucinis said: Make sure to get them VGA graded as well! VGA grading is good, but I heard the next new thing is HDMI grading. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, digdugnate said: VGA grading is good, but I heard the next new thing is HDMI grading. I still use RF grading like a Luddite. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, Cebus Capucinis said: Make sure to get them VGA graded as well! Duh. I thought that was assumed when I said "eBay scam." 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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