HSC19 R10: SUMMER OF FUN!

[mimo]

4 hours ago, graywest said:

Did I miss something? Hope you're doing okay!!

I had a cardiac arrest on April 4th , I was without oxygen for 20 minutes and then in a coma for 2 weeks. It's taking a long time to recover. I have total memory loss of the event and pretty much the first half of this year, and some issues with memory in general , but I'm alive and anything more than that is a bonus 

 

Thanks for asking 

Edited July 10, 2022 by mimo

[carlsson]

Kik-Start, race 4-5-6 -- 128.52 sec

Preppie! -- 6540 pts, level 5

Star League Baseball -- lost 1-41

 

Ironically the only point I scored on baseball was on a home run. Not sure I'll play this again, it was 50 minutes of very little fun. I'd rather spend 65 minutes on a round of M.U.L.E.

 

 

[graywest]

On 7/10/2022 at 3:11 AM, mimo said:

but I'm alive and anything more than that is a bonus 

No kidding - glad you're still with us and hope you continue to recover!!

[+therealbountybob]

What's that mimo... ok will read all the posts soon!!

Sorry been struggling to get some decent Atari time but today is the day so have made a start on the games:

 

Preppie! 16,860 (6)

BMX Sim as Rider1 2,340 and Rider 2 2,180 made it to the 6th race on both. Need stick in 2nd port folks!

Topper 34,905 (c11)

Star League Baseball lost 2-10 !! 6 of there runs were on the first innings where I was rusty. Had 1 home run (on the first batter) think it took pity on me as was 10-0 down, then had another run from the bases.  Not as fun as I thought but maybe change to sluggers or something for anothr go.

 

Kik-Start and the bonus games later on!

 

Will try and get some tables together tomorrow

still no screenshots but have a plan for this

[+therealbountybob]

Kik-Start

Race A 22.26 25.26 29.34 71.18

Race B 19.90 23.56 33.86 77.36

Race C 22.28 16.82 21.54 60.64

 

still to tackle the big one Race D

[+therealbountybob]

On 7/10/2022 at 8:11 AM, mimo said:

I had a cardiac arrest on April 4th , I was without oxygen for 20 minutes and then in a coma for 2 weeks. It's taking a long time to recover. I have total memory loss of the event and pretty much the first half of this year, and some issues with memory in general , but I'm alive and anything more than that is a bonus 

 

Thanks for asking 

Holy sh*t mimo, best wishes to you and all here in the HSC

[+therealbountybob]

On 7/9/2022 at 8:04 PM, carlsson said:

Skateboard - 4360 pts, level 8

 

This game really grows on me! Too bad it is relatively random, meaning sometimes you get hopeless tracks and sometimes you get ones that are a walk in the park. For those curious, the level structure is as follows:

 

Level 1: Only small potholes to either rise the skateboard over or jump. I believe a jump takes a bit longer time.

Level 2: Potholes, stones and sudden arrows that may appear at any height and while you're in the middle of a jump. This level is the one I tend to lose lives on.

Level 3: Potholes, water filled holes, stones and ramps. You can't ride onto a ramp, you must jump over it. However this level has no arrows, so if you concentrate it should be solvable without losing lives.

Level 4: Like level 1, but faster speed. Keep rising the skateboard over each pothole for 50 seconds or so and you're home.

Level 5: Like level 2+4 combined. The arrows are back, at faster speed. If you have any lives left, this is where you usually lose them.

Level 6: No arrows, just the other obstacles. I cleared it on my first attempt.

Level 7: More of the same as in level 6. No major challenge.

Level 8: Arrows and everything else. This was my bane, and if you reached this far it is likely you're on your last life anyway.

 

Too bad the game doesn't have a pause key so I could grab a screenshot of my score.

great info carlsson, I'll try and update the first post with some more info on the games: including press fire just as the race starts on BMX sim for a boost start and use Space to pause it at the end of the race so you can see your times !

[carlsson]

12 minutes ago, therealbountybob said:

Kik-Start

Race A 22:26 25:26 29:34 71:18

Race B 19:90 23:56 33:86 77:36

Race C 22:28 16:82 21:54 60:64

Wait, shall we record the times individually for each track or is it enough to report the totals - the rightmost column? Also it would be great to have a version of Kik-Start with default scores of 999:99 so one is guaranteed to get onto the high score table regardless how bad you drive.

 

Edit: Oh well, I posted screenshots of the high score table anyway so it is possible at least for my times to extract those per track.

Edited July 14, 2022 by carlsson

[graywest]

Skateboard: 1,480 (Level 5)

Not bad. It's similar to BC's Quest for Tires. This one plays on real NTSC hardware if you don't mind the background jumping a bit.

 

Skate Crazy: 4000

Decent - it's playable. Fun for a few minutes but not sure I'd give it another go.

Edited July 15, 2022 by graywest

[mimo]

Mrs Mimo 

Preppie! 13880 

 

[+therealbountybob]

22 hours ago, carlsson said:

Wait, shall we record the times individually for each track or is it enough to report the totals - the rightmost column? Also it would be great to have a version of Kik-Start with default scores of 999:99 so one is guaranteed to get onto the high score table regardless how bad you drive.

 

Edit: Oh well, I posted screenshots of the high score table anyway so it is possible at least for my times to extract those per track.

Total times are ok but the detail is good for all too see

 

Some inprovements from me:

 

Preppie! 20,750 Level 8 one ball delivered! - post this bit as my scores were getting lower the better I got so we can play for level reached and most balls delivered on the final level (on any one life).

Fun Preppie challenge - highest score for the first two screens in 1 man. I'll vouvh a modest 1,730 to kick things off!

BMX Sim as Rider1 - 3,140 (25:7 34:2 30:2 32:5) and Rider 2 - 2,195 (25:6 44:3 37:8 34:3 19:7)

Topper 37,980 (d13)

[]Skateboard 920 not overly exciting as you can move l/r across most of the screen using the small jump [Up]. Reached level 3 may play a bit more...

 

Cat's are having a lazy day as is trbb, bit cooler today but Jasper has taken over my deck chair, Jemima went for the sofa!

 

 

 

[RedThunder]

Should of been playing BMX Sim.  But did some real  BMX Sim'ing around the local woods on the MTB Eeb ?

 

Shread the \\Gnar.

 

At least the collision dectection is slightly better in the real world ?

 

 

 

[graywest]

10 hours ago, therealbountybob said:

Cat's are having a lazy day as is trbb, bit cooler today but Jasper has taken over my deck chair, Jemima went for the sofa!

Those are some beautiful cats, @therealbountybob! Are they British Shorthairs?

 

My cat Spectre was helping me figure out how to play Kik Start this evening...

 

But then he stole my comfy gaming chair when I got up to switch to BMX Simulator, so I guess my play session is over for now.

 

I have no scores to report, just cat pictures, because I'm horrible at the two bike games. ? Will have to practice some more this week!

[+therealbountybob]

16 hours ago, RedThunder said:

Should of been playing BMX Sim.  But did some real  BMX Sim'ing around the local woods on the MTB Eeb ?

 

Shread the \\Gnar.

 

At least the collision dectection is slightly better in the real world ?

 

nice perhaps it's slighly worse

7 hours ago, graywest said:

Those are some beautiful cats, @therealbountybob! Are they British Shorthairs?

 

My cat Spectre was helping me figure out how to play Kik Start this evening...

 

 

But then he stole my comfy gaming chair when I got up to switch to BMX Simulator, so I guess my play session is over for now.

 

 

I have no scores to report, just cat pictures, because I'm horrible at the two bike games. ? Will have to practice some more this week!

Yes he's a blue she's a lilac (chocolate mother I think). Spectre is a great name, they like to help out, especailly seat warming!

 

BMX SIM and KIK-START are both really good games, the learning curve is good and there's good skill and fun to be had on both games especailly here in HSC world.

 

talking of Kik-Start had a couple of goes on Race D

first run was the best, 2nd was similar

112 24.02 16.60 22.78  63.40

345 31.50 36.74 16.62  84.86

678 16.80 18.36 28.28  63.44

Total erm calc time...

211.70

 

Had another go on Skateboard - level 4 speeds up a lot and fixes the short jump being too long - 1,680

[+therealbountybob]

BMS Sim improvements

Rider 1 - 3,155 (round 6)

Rider 2 - 2,555 (round 5)

[+therealbountybob]

On 7/4/2022 at 7:23 AM, AtariSphinx said:

Topper: 18,895  19,520

 

Couple issues I have with this game (on real NTSC hardware with various roms tried): 

 

1) when I try to type my name in the high score table the key mapping is all scrambled (e.g. I press the 'c' key and get something else).

 

2) that jumping enemy/bunny in the C level and later is totally unfair.  Sometimes he moves to the only path to clear the board not moving and waits for the timer to expire.   Worse yet he never moves from his initial spot no matter where I move again till the timer runs out.   Not always this happens but often!  Seems random but I seem to get it more often. 

 

Any one seeing these issues?

 

 

 

On 7/4/2022 at 11:40 AM, carlsson said:

I believe name input on Topper is made with joystick up/down and left/right. The fact that the keyboard responds seems like a side effect.

 

Not sure about how unfair the rabbit is. I didn't spot that behaviour on PAL yesterday.

 

(2) Think this is a feature so you have to get the dead ends done / think ahead, if you're cornered just do the honourable thing or in your case the honorable thing

[+therealbountybob]

SUMMER OF FUN... WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!

some sort of tables... scoring later I've been on here an hour doing this!!! May have missed some kikstart scores but check if you have played the right combination of tracks (shown below) !

 

Preppie!

(post how far you got 8.1 = level 8 with 1 ball delivered!)
  1st   therealbountybob (8.1)     209,750    30
  2nd   Deteacher                   17,210    29
  3rd   mimo                (6)      15,660    28
  4th   Mrs Mimo                    13,880    27
  5th   AtariSphinx                 12,810    26
  6th   littleman jack              11,100    25
  7th   carlsson                     6,540    24
  8th   graywest                     6,350    23
  9th   littleman jr                   6,050    22
 10th   RedThunder                   4,900    21

 

Topper
  1st   therealbountybob          37,980    30
  2nd   carlsson                     32,785    29
  3rd   Deteacher                   22,900    28
  4th   AtariSphinx                 19,520    27
  5th   graywest                    15,765    26
  6th   mimo                          14,365    25
  7th   RedThunder                     160    24

 

BMX Simulator

BMX Sim as Rider 1
  1st   therealbountybob             3,155    30

BMX Sim as Rider 2
  1st   therealbountybob             2,555    30

 

Kik Start

Kik-Start - Race A  1-2-3
  1st   therealbountybob              71.18    29
  2nd   carlsson                         118.5    30

Kik-Start - Race B  4-5-7
  1st   therealbountybob                77.36    30

Kik-Start - Race C  2:-6-8
  1st   therealbountybob                60.64    30

Kik-Start - Race D  112 345 678 (play the batches of courses in succession)
  1st   therealbountybob               211.7    30

 

Skateboard
  1st   carlsson (8)                  4,360    
  2nd   deteacher                    2,090    
  3rd   therealbountybob           1,680    
  4th   RedThunder                    280    

 

Skatecrazy                     
 1st   graywest                     4,000    
 2nd   deteacher                    2,000    
 2nd   carlsson                       2,000    
 2nd   RedThunder                       0    

 

Star League Baseball

Winners!
 1st   8BIT 1337               19-2          
 2nd   graywest                5-3           

Losers!

 3rd   trbbb                     2-10
 4th   carlsson                  1-41          

No scorers!
 5th   littleman jack          0-99!          
 5th   littleman jr             0-99!          
 5th   RedThunder             0-99!          

 

[carlsson]

12 minutes ago, therealbountybob said:

Kik-Start - Race B  4-5-7
  1st   therealbountybob                77.36    30

I played races 4-5-6 above with 128.52 sec as the combined time. So far it seems you and me were the only ones to tackle this game.

[carlsson]

Kik-Start, tracks 2-6-8: 124.62 sec (51.64, 32.26, 40.72 *)

 

(*) I managed individually to go faster on some tracks, but we're counting times for when you finished a combo.

 

21 hours ago, therealbountybob said:

Skateboard [..] not overly exciting as you can move l/r across most of the screen using the small jump [Up]

I found that if you push up and let go, not only can you move left and right, but you can also push up + fire again and initiate a jump while you're hovering with your skateboard! This can be useful e.g. if you're lifting the skateboard over a pothole, and suddenly an arrow arrives before you will be back on the ground again. Simply push up + fire and turn the lift into a jump. Of course you can no longer position yourself while actually jumping. It might also be good to clear a pothole + upcoming stone as you can lift first, move to the right and extend the move with a jump.

 

I did reach level 8 for the third time but no improvement on my score (today 3770 pts, from before best score 4360 pts).

 

The comparison to B.C.'s Quest of Tires is a good one, perhaps even closer than Moon Patrol is. Except that B.C. isn't randomized IIRC.

[+therealbountybob]

Must admit, after getting past the first 3 levels Skateboard has some playability - reached level 6 or 7 with an improved score of 2,430.

 

Played a lot of Topper but not improved, dynamite amusing as it got me by moving to the next square!

 

[carlsson]

BMX Sinister... oops, Simulator

Track 1 - Player 1: 25.8 sec, Player 2: 32.5 sec

Track 2 - Player 1: DNF, Player 2: 44.0 sec

Track 3 - Player 1: DNS, Player 2: DNF

 

Totals - Player 1: 1220 pts, Player 2: 915 pts

 

I spent 23 minutes on this game, not sure I'll play it much more. While I enjoy it more than baseball and Kik-Start, it doesn't say much. Clearly I'm more of a skateboard guy than a bicycle or motorbike guy.

[carlsson]

5 hours ago, therealbountybob said:

Played a lot of Topper but not improved, dynamite amusing as it got me by moving to the next square!

Ditto, but in my case the last square on the board disappeared while I was in the middle of a jump, stealing the level clearance from me. The rabbit does seem to move very randomly, sometimes fast across the board and sometimes not at all. It appears it is more likely to move if you stand very close to him, though of course you don't want him to jump onto you. No improvement of my "lucky first time" score though at least I'm getting 30K.

[littleman jack]

Okay, so here's some scores to banish those embarrassing 0-99s.

 

littleman jack on Starleague Baseball:

1st game loss 0-14

2nd game loss 1-14

3rd game win 9-6

 

littleman jr.

Starleague Baseball loss 1-14

 

The winning score 9-6 is attached.

 

[littleman jack]

PS--

*My cat is not helping me with any of these games, nor coming anywhere near the Atari 800 for some reason. He seems perfectly content to stay on the bed or in the bathtub.

*Stealing bases does seem to be the way to beat the computer in Star League Baseball. It seems to upset the pitcher and definitely gets your runners closer to scoring position.

*UK players, has anyone created a Rounders game for the Atari? I seem to remember seeing XBox and PS2 games of Cricket in England and Hurling in Ireland when visiting relatives in the early 2000s, but never any Rounders. Isn't baseball an offshoot of Rounders.

 

[carlsson]

Interesting question. I see that there is a whole family of such games (*) of which rounders seems to be the second oldest (after stoolball, dating back to at least 1450) but I didn't read in detail how much of the rounders rules from 1744 still are in effect today. I am mostly familiar with brännboll which is played in schools rather than professionally. Most probably very few of those lesser known variants have ever reached the video game format, due to being more like children's or party games than full-fledged sports.

 

(*) Wikipedia has more than 20 variants in the bat-and-ball genre:

Stoolball, Rounders, Baseball, Softball, Corkball, Kickball, Town ball, Stickball, Vitilla (Dominican Republic), Wiffle Ball, Wireball

Brännboll (Sweden), Rundbold (Denmark), Longball (Denmark/Norway), Dødball (Norway), Pesäpallo (Finland - played professionally!)

Schlagball (Germany), Palant (Poland), Lapta (Russia), Oiná (Romania), Théque (Normandy. France) and so on

 

Regarding cricket, there was one famous game for the Commodore 128, released quite early on so it is one of the ~10 or so exclusive C128 games in the library. A few C64 games have enhanced features if played in C128 mode but in comparison, the Atari 130XE seems to have had far more exclusive titles not running on 64K machines than the C128 ever had.

Edited July 16, 2022 by carlsson