aotta Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 if it could help, the original timing of RTO is 482 for delRD and 540 for del WR, these settings works fine with RTO for all console except for Secam ones. I'd started from these values for testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellblock1138 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, 5-11under said: The delays.txt file would require a change in the numbers to make a difference. Using the default numbers wouldn't change anything. Ok. What numbers would you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Cellblock1138 said: Ok. What numbers would you suggest? Um, how about "482 for delRD and 540 for delWR"? Honestly, I don't have much of an opinion on this myself, but others have done some experiment on this. All I really did was add the "delays.txt" file capability, so you just have to edit a file if straying from the default, instead of having to recompile the code in Arduino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I tried everything to get this to work and everything I try is the same thing, the screen caps that I provided in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Crash7 said: I tried everything to get this to work and everything I try is the same thing, the screen caps that I provided in this thread. The console resetting should be automatic, but does it work any better if the console is reset manually at boot-up and after game selection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 29 minutes ago, 5-11under said: The console resetting should be automatic, but does it work any better if the console is reset manually at boot-up and after game selection? Nope, nothing works, I've tried every combination imaginable as far as resetting console. Screen caps like posted is the only thing I've ever seen on this I don't even get the title screen. I'm not the most text savvy guy in the world as far as installation of hardware so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Crash7 said: Nope, nothing works, I've tried every combination imaginable as far as resetting console. Screen caps like posted is the only thing I've ever seen on this I don't even get the title screen. I'm not the most text savvy guy in the world as far as installation of hardware so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. What sets of values have you tried for the delays.txt file? Was the file format correct - just one number per row, followed by a return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyv316 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 @Crash7 I am having similar issues with my Super Pro System, but have not had time to test the delay.txt settings. I thought it was me at first too, but you having the similar problem makes me believe the Super Pro System is the common denominator. I also tried the RTO on my SSVA and I get the game title screen, but just keeps resetting to that when I try to start a game. Like I said, I still need to play around with the delays file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockLobster Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 A little scary to read some of these posts. For those who've bought a recent batch, should the rest of us wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 26 minutes ago, RockLobster said: A little scary to read some of these posts. For those who've bought a recent batch, should the rest of us wait? Noone of the original RTO users i know has a Super Pro System, so i'm not sure if there some issue related to that console model, but afaik i believe it's only a timing setup matter, as for the SECAM console. If 5-11under tested his version of RTO before selling (and i've no doubt he did it), from my point of view i don't see anything scary in the above posts. But i'm a bit worried since my new Pico PiRTO version has timing hardcoded and it can't be changed, so i'm interested in different console variants owner feedbacks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellblock1138 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I have been trying to get it to work using the Sears Intellivision. When I have time, I will try some of my other consoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) Super Pro Systems with an INTV 1988 board revision are quite different, otherwise they should be similar to Mattel Intellivisions. Sears Intellivisions have a modified exec, as does Intellivision II. Edited January 26 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 hours ago, mr_me said: Super Pro Systems with an INTV 1988 board revision are quite different, otherwise they should be similar to Mattel Intellivisions. Sears Intellivisions have a modified exec, as does Intellivision II. Mine is a SPS with a INTV II exec board. But I also have an SPS with a INTV I board, maybe I'll try that unit next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 If anyone has their's working post a screen cap of your SD card, so we can see the software (not ROMs), that you are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 26 minutes ago, Crash7 said: If anyone has their's working post a screen cap of your SD card, so we can see the software (not ROMs), that you are using. The firmware has been loaded into the Teensy. If you see proper/appropriate messages on the RTO display, then that aspect is likely working fine. The SD card typically only needs bin and cfg files, with the same root name, such as blackjack.bin and blackjack.cfg. aotta also posted a 0.cfg file. That is the default cfg file that would be used, in case there is no blackjack.cfg file on the SD card, for example. So, for most classic games, all you need is a few bin files and 0.cfg file to start with. 0.cfg should be in the root folder. Games can be in the root, or one level deep into a folder. Besides 0.cfg, bin and corresponding cfg files should be in the same folder. Beyond that, there's the option to add a delays.txt file in the root folder, as discussed over the past couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) The Exec version doesn't matter, it's the onboard oscillator that make the difference. The RTO emulates the CPU Bus for ROM/RAM addressing, writing data on the BUS at BAR/ADAR/NACT/DW/DWS request from CPU: as allyou can see, the CP-1600 manual doesn't talk about time between phases, becouse it depends on the clock, but say that the cycle is 600 nanoseconds for a 3,3Mhz Cpu, and 500 nanoseconds for a 4Mhz Cpu. Now, NTSC, PAL and Secam Intellivision have different quartzs onboard, for generating video signal that, for example, is faster on PAL Inty than in NTSC ones. That's why i used 482 nanoseconds for the "waiting" time between read phases, and it works perfectly on my friends and mine PAL consoles, and 5-11under wrote the default of 520 nanoseconds for the NTSC consoles he used to work with. I don't know SPS systems which quartz used (and i presume the same of the standard NTSC intellivision), but i agree that some fine tuning with the delays parameters could solve the issue. Edited January 27 by aotta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 My SD set up. And my results If somebody can figure it out let me know, I know I'm doing something wrong but I have no idea what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, Crash7 said: My SD set up. And my results If somebody can figure it out let me know, I know I'm doing something wrong but I have no idea what. You have only .int files for games? RTO wants ".BIN" file.... you have to rename the file from .int to .bin But RTO found the games? you have to look at the display too and maybe post some pic of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 First of all, the INT files need to be renamed to bin files. You need bin+cfg files (or 0.cfg for most classic games). You don't need the .ino and .h files, but they're okay to stay. Does the RTO display show appropriate responses, such as boot-up credits, then the "press a button" message, and then showing folder items, and showing "Active ROM" when a game is selected? On the TV screen, after the boot-up credits, the console should reset, and show the RTO splash screen. If you get to the "Active ROM" point, the game should play. So, make sure you have the bin files instead of int files, and then try it out, reporting on the steps you're making, and the results on the RTO display and TV screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sfish Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I've done some initial testing with a variety of delays.txt settings providing only disappointing results. To dig a little deeper, I've sent you a DM, @5-11under. I'm hoping we can get this figured out soon. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Stripped it down to the bare bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This is what I see when I turn it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This is what I see when I do what it tells me and press a button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This is what I see when I hit the same button again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Bowling BIN BOWLING CFG No Delays text First the turn on screen and then when it recognizes the bowling bin file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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