+mytek Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, ascrnet said: Update the firmware without fear, these new changes will be sent to the official one. 😉 If you read the whole thread you will see that these cartridges are not fully supported in emulators. That's why the ID is changed so that a8picocart recognizes it well and takes the timer. I haven't updated my firmware since the last TK-II specific navigation keys got added to verify this, but have these changes been rolled into this new release? If not, they really should be since this would benefit anyone wanting to use the A8Pico Cart on a 1088XEL, 1088XLD and 576NUC+ with the cartridge option, or anyone with a TK-II installed in a standard Atari 8-bit. It would also affect my upcoming 4-in-One NUCplus4 daughter board add-on for the 576NUC+. This links to the last TK-II specific build I'm presently using... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, mytek said: I haven't updated my firmware since the last TK-II specific navigation keys got added to verify this, but have these changes been rolled into this new release? If not, they really should be since this would benefit anyone wanting to use the A8Pico Cart on a 1088XEL, 1088XLD and 576NUC+ with the cartridge option, or anyone with a TK-II installed in a standard Atari 8-bit. It would also affect my upcoming 4-in-One NUCplus4 daughter board add-on for the 576NUC+. As those improvements were not uploaded to github they are not in the original firmware, and I don't have the source codes or the TK-II to review and upload them. Remember that github is being used is being used to upload the changes so that @electrotrains to approve the improvements for the official version. "This does not mean that everyone can make their own version". 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, ascrnet said: As those improvements were not uploaded to github they are not in the original firmware, and I don't have the source codes or the TK-II to review and upload them. Remember that github is being used is being used to upload the changes so that @electrotrains to approve the improvements for the official version. "This does not mean that everyone can make their own version". 😉 Thanks for the quick response. Hopefully @manterola can submit his changes to github for review and eventual inclusion. EDIT: You stated that "This does not mean that everyone can make their own version", which is understandable. However if a proposed change has far reaching benefits for several use cases, it really should be included. And although menu navigation might be considered trivial by some, uniformity of a UI is important so that the learning curve between similar applications is minimized. A couple of the most popular applications that fully support the TK-II special navigation keys are: Flashjazzcat's SIDE2, SIDE3, and U1MB BIOS, as well as his "The Last Word" word processor program. These Home, End, Page-Up, Page-Down keys existed long before the TK-II as the Shifted F1-F4 functions keys in the XL/XE OS, and are fully utilized in a stock 1200XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, mytek said: Thanks for the quick response. Hopefully @manterola can submit his changes to github for review and eventual inclusion. EDIT: You stated that "This does not mean that everyone can make their own version", which is understandable. However if a proposed change has far reaching benefits for several use cases, it really should be included. And although menu navigation might be considered trivial by some, uniformity of a UI is important so that the learning curve between similar applications is minimized. A couple of the most popular applications that fully support the TK-II special navigation keys are: Flashjazzcat's SIDE2, SIDE3, and U1MB BIOS, as well as his "The Last Word" word processor program. These Home, End, Page-Up, Page-Down keys existed long before the TK-II as the Shifted F1-F4 functions keys in the XL/XE OS, and are fully utilized in a stock 1200XL. Totally agree with you I even thought about adding joy 2B+ support, since it doesn't require anything additional apart from the joystick. But there is only one person who makes the decision to accept improvements to your project and that's not me.😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manterola Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I already sent changes to electrotrains thru PM. I have to say that the changes not only help the users of TKII and NUC, but also the users that have functioning keys ">" and "<" in their Atari 8 bit computers . So basically, everyone will be able to pageup and pagedown the file list in the A8PicoCart. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, manterola said: I already sent changes to electrotrains thru PM. I have to say that the changes not only help the users of TKII and NUC, but also the users that have functioning keys ">" and "<" in their Atari 8 bit computers . So basically, everyone will be able to pageup and pagedown the file list in the A8PicoCart. Perfect, thanks for the clarification. I thought it was only for special hardware. 😉 I too already uploaded the change for the JNSoft cartridge support to github for approval.🤩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA128k Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Is the AUTORUN feature in the current firmware build? I'd like to use mine as a standalone BASIC cart with my FujiNet for network file storage. At any rate if there's a whole separate build for the AUTORUN version I would love to find a copy. I searched through this thread but it's a bit hard to tell what is what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_M Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 21 minutes ago, DNA128k said: Is the AUTORUN feature in the current firmware build? I'd like to use mine as a standalone BASIC cart with my FujiNet for network file storage. At any rate if there's a whole separate build for the AUTORUN version I would love to find a copy. I searched through this thread but it's a bit hard to tell what is what. The autorun is a standalone firmware and is not built in the normal firmware. You can find the autorun firmware here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA128k Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fred_M said: The autorun is a standalone firmware and is not built in the normal firmware. Awesome, thanks so much! edit: Well that was easy, I love this thing. Edited January 27 by DNA128k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/25/2024 at 1:21 AM, ascrnet said: Check and see if the cartridge works completely I just tried it on fast. 😅 You just have to wait a moment for it to automatically shut down rd5. I attach the new cartridges supported by this version and if you know of another strange cartridge attach it .rom 69 - aDawliah 32kb.car 32.02 kB · 3 downloads a8_pico_cart.uf2 190.5 kB · 4 downloads JNSoft.car 16.02 kB · 4 downloads Turbo 2000.car 8.02 kB · 3 downloads JNSoft.car doesnt work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 2:39 PM, w1k said: JNSoft.car doesnt work you have not updated the firmware, that's why I attached everything. 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 hours ago, ascrnet said: you have not updated the firmware, that's why I attached everything. 😅 oh.. sorry, my mistake.. today i try:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 works:) but you must change all of type of theese carts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 another carts universal-ram-copy-rom.zip qros.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, w1k said: but you must change all of type of theese carts? is not to change, but to identify the cartridge for the correct emulation. the .car format allows you to identify the cartridge. 3 hours ago, w1k said: another carts universal-ram-copy-rom.zip 3.55 kB · 0 downloads qros.zip 1.68 kB · 0 downloads those two cartridges also need the rd5 shutdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, ascrnet said: is not to change, but to identify the cartridge for the correct emulation. the .car format allows you to identify the cartridge. those two cartridges also need the rd5 shutdown? ah, understand, i try today some tests.. yes, another carts that needs rd5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 hours ago, w1k said: yes, another carts that needs rd5 are you sure you need rd 5 off this cart? because in theory it should work with the same configuration as the turbo 2000 but it did not work. 😅 RamCopy Cart.car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, ascrnet said: are you sure you need rd 5 off this cart? because in theory it should work with the same configuration as the turbo 2000 but it did not work. 😅 RamCopy Cart.car 8.02 kB · 0 downloads maybe not good dump, dont know.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 51 minutes ago, w1k said: maybe not good dump, dont know.. but you do have information if that screen changes, schematics of the pcb design or pictures of the cartridge ? Edited January 30 by ascrnet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The RAMCOPY CART is copying cart to $2000 but then awaits for the cart to be pulled after which the code is copied back up to $A000 and control transferred to there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 19 minutes ago, ascrnet said: but you do have information if that screen changes, schematics of the pcb design or pictures of the cartridge ? that file was burned on ROM in atari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Wrathchild said: The RAMCOPY CART is copying cart to $2000 but then awaits for the cart to be pulled after which the code is copied back up to $A000 and control transferred to there. From what I understand it waits for RD5 to shut down to start copying as you say. then wait a few seconds to see if the screen changes or if something else happens. 😅 4 hours ago, w1k said: that file was burned on ROM in atari since you don't know anything technical, can you tell me how you use it on the real atari "step by step"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 its copy program, you can load program with any speed - 2000 - 6000 baud and run in or save copy with any speed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, w1k said: its copy program, you can load program with any speed - 2000 - 6000 baud and run in or save copy with any speed.. I don't understand how to use it, as you don't explain it well it will remain without emulation. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I'll see if I can make an XEX version 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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