Atariboy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, donjn said: It will be. It has a Genesis and NES emulator inside it. I know. That's why I shared that video starting at the segment showing off the the loading of user supplied roms, for 007 after he wondered if one can side load their own Genesis and NES roms. Edited September 25, 2023 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Atariboy said: I know. That's why I shared that video starting at the segment showing off the the loading of user supplied roms, for 007 after he wondered if one can side load their own Genesis and NES roms. Yeah I was trying to quote him and not your video. I failed lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, donjn said: It will be. It has a Genesis and NES emulator inside it. Cool what about snes or n64? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 0078265317 said: Cool what about snes or n64? There's no reason for those emulators to be installed, so probably not out of the box (although I'm also not sure if anyone has even tried yet). Only Piko owned NES and Genesis games are present with nothing from their collection of Super Nintendo or N64 IP like Top Gear for the SNES. That said, there's also always the chance we'll see the community hack it and add additional emulators like we've seen with some of the more recent AtGames Flashback units. If that happens I imagine that a SNES core will appear, but there will be obvious limitations with the number of available buttons unless the community figures out how to work around that with alternative controllers. Of more interest to me personally is if we can add additional arcade games and how capable it is of running them (the video that I linked to didn't explore that area or if they attempted it, didn't have any success). The Legends Flashback was cool to play with, but had so many limitations due to things like an ancient build of MAME. Hopefully it's not locked down and we'll be able to add more arcade classics to it (the reviewer that I linked to doesn't seem terribly tech savvy, so I'm optimistic that we'll be able to just like we can with Atari, NES, and Genesis roms). I'm also hoping that the community figures out how to utilize the paddle when side loading additional games. Not only for 2600 games like Kaboom but also other things like the arcade Arkanoid games. Doesn't seem possible out of the box, but we'll see if the community is able to overcome that hurdle. Edited September 25, 2023 by Atariboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 56 minutes ago, Atariboy said: There's no reason for those emulators to be installed, so probably not out of the box (although I'm also not sure if anyone has even tried yet). Only Piko owned NES and Genesis games are present with nothing from their collection of Super Nintendo or N64 IP like Top Gear for the SNES. That said, there's also always the chance we'll see the community hack it and add additional emulators like we've seen with some of the more recent AtGames Flashback units. If that happens I imagine that a SNES core will appear, but there will be obvious limitations with the number of available buttons unless the community figures out how to work around that with alternative controllers. Of more interest to me personally is if we can add additional arcade games and how capable it is of running them (the video that I linked to didn't explore that area or if they attempted it, didn't have any success). The Legends Flashback was cool to play with, but had so many limitations due to things like an ancient build of MAME. Hopefully it's not locked down and we'll be able to add more arcade classics to it (the reviewer that I linked to doesn't seem terribly tech savvy, so I'm optimistic that we'll be able to just like we can with Atari, NES, and Genesis roms). I'm also hoping that the community figures out how to utilize the paddle when side loading additional games. Not only for 2600 games like Kaboom but also other things like the arcade Arkanoid games. Doesn't seem possible out of the box, but we'll see if the community is able to overcome that hurdle. There is a way for additional controllers but not sure if the GSP will accept it. A seagull 78 is needed on a real 2600 to use the 8bitdo genesis 9 pin receivers. Then it pairs with a wiimote. And then a classic controller can be used. Or a hyperkin nes or snes to wii mote adaptetr. Then snes controllers work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Actually the GSP has 2 usb c and no 9 pin so this might not work. Unless there is a usb to 9 pin adapter. Or the GSP has bluetooth. Edited September 26, 2023 by 0078265317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Or it is on ebay for 150 and free shipping if you must have it. Not bad. Only 50 more. ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Or I have this Wii to usb adapter. Wonder if the usb C ports with an usb C to A adapter will accept this. That might be another solution. Mayflash Edited September 26, 2023 by 0078265317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 5:37 PM, Atariboy said: They're 2.4g to minimize wireless input latency. But bluetooth is 2.4ghz. So this is bluetooth? How else can it be wireless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, 0078265317 said: There is a way for additional controllers but not sure if the GSP will accept it. A seagull 78 is needed on a real 2600 to use the 8bitdo genesis 9 pin receivers. Then it pairs with a wiimote. And then a classic controller can be used. Or a hyperkin nes or snes to wii mote adaptetr. Then snes controllers work. You can use an Xbox One controller with the wire: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Defender_2600 said: You can use an Xbox One controller with the wire: pretty cool thanks for sharing so that means I might be able to use new controllers after all. I am definitely interested now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGenGamer Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 I picked up one at Costco in Denver! Love this little thing! I've wired up my wireless controllers with no issues. Sorry - I don't want to wait until the end of October to fill my SD card. I won't say where the directory is but if you look up the Atari Flashback 50th Anniversary, it has the same directory name. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 I was watching a gamestation pro on ebay that was 149 dollars and 99 cents with free shipping. He just offered 10 less. So only 40 more than retail not bad. But still I will wait till costco has them for 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGenGamer Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. 11 systems in total - A Must Buy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, ThirdGenGamer said: Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. 11 systems in total - A Must Buy! How did you get snes and n64 and the others to work? Did you have to load other emulators? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 3 hours ago, 0078265317 said: How did you get snes and n64 and the others to work? Did you have to load other emulators? Oh, so you are interested in running other platforms on it that aren't "officially listed" on their website, gee I'm so shocked 😝no longer worried doing so might brick it? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 5 hours ago, OldSchoolRetroGamer said: Oh, so you are interested in running other platforms on it that aren't "officially listed" on their website, gee I'm so shocked 😝no longer worried doing so might brick it? 🙄 I was just curious how he managed to do so and if it was complicated. I have not decided if I will go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 hours ago, ThirdGenGamer said: Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. 11 systems in total - A Must Buy! But what is the input lag? Like compared to hardware on a CRT or even Stella on a high end PC. Is the movement smooth? I am VERY sensitive to input lag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Here is the official list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Kinda hard to read. They should of just made a simple list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, 0078265317 said: Kinda hard to read. They should of just made a simple list. Atari Game Station Pro Games 2600 (82) 3D Tic-Tac-Toe Adventure Adventure II Air-Sea Battle Aquaventure Asteroids Atari Video Cube Basic Math Basketball Bowling Boxing (Activision) Breakout Canyon Bomber Centipede Championship Soccer Circus Atari Combat Combat Two Crystal Castles Dark Chambers Demons to Diamonds Desert Falcon Dodge ‘Em Double Dunk Drag Race Fast Eddie Fatal Run Flag Capture Football Frog Pond Golf Gravitar Hangman Haunted House Home Run Human Cannonball Indy 500 Maze Craze Millipede Miniature Golf Missile Command MotoRodeo Night Driver Off the Wall Outlaw Pong (Video Olympics) Quadrun Radar Lock Realsports Baseball Realsports Basketball Realsports Boxing Realsports Football Realsports Soccer Realsports Tennis Realsports Volleyball Road Runner Saboteur Save Mary Secret Quest Sky Diver Slot Racers Solaris Space Raid Space War Sprint Master Steeplechase Street Racer Stunt Cycle Submarine Commander Super Baseball Super Breakout Super Football Surround Swordquest: Earthworld Swordquest: Fireworld Swordquest: Waterworld Tempest Video Checkers Video Pinball Warlords Wizard Yars’ Revenge 5200 (7) Centipede Frisky Tom Meebzork Millipede Missile Command Realsports Baseball Realsports Basketball 7800 (10) Alien Brigade Asteroids Basketbrawl Centipede Dark Chambers Desert Falcon Food Fight Motorpsycho Realsports Baseball Scrapyard Dog Arcade (39) Alpha One Asteroids Asteroids Deluxe Atari Baseball Atari Football Atari Soccer Avalanche Basketball Canyon Bomber Centipede Cloud 9 Crystal Castles Dominos Drag Race Fire Truck Food Fight Gravitar I, Robot Liberator Lunar Battle Lunar Lander Major Havoc Millipede Missile Command Monte Carlo Night Driver Pool Shark Quantum Red Baron Runaway Sky Diver Sky Raider Space Duel Super Breakout Super Bug Tempest Tournament Table Ultra Tank Warlords Bonus 8 Eyes Bad Street Brawler Beast Ball Brave Battle Saga Burglar X Canon: Legend of the New Gods Cheese Chase Dash Galaxy in the Alien Asylum Diver Boy Eliminator Boat Duel Escape from Atlantis Exploding Fist Fancy World Free Fall Galaxy Gunners Gorodki Jim Power: The Lost Dimension in 3D Lan Master Lawn Mower Little Lancelot Lucky Boom Maniac's Square Mega 3D Noah's Ark Mermaids of Atlantis Metal Mech Mighty Warriors Motor City Patrol Nightshade: Part I: The Claws of Sutekh Noah's Ark Ping Pong Masters 93 Pow 2 Power Punch II Pyramids of Ra Radical Rex Snakki Snowboard Championship Stanley: The Search for Dr. Livingston Steel Force Street Racer Sumo Slam Super Hunchback Switchblade Sword of Sodan Target: Renegade The Fidgetts The Gadget Twins The Humans The Immortal The Mutant Virus Thunderbolt Thunderbolt II Tinhead Top Racer 2 Treasure Master Viking Child Water Margin World Rally World Trophy Soccer Zany Golf Zooming Secretary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Room Arcade Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 In his video, Jon/GenXGrownUp seems to organize his ROMS by using a naming scheme like 2600-GAME_NAME.a26 or 5200-GAME_NAME.a26. See? I'm guessing that's because all the ROMS go into one folder. If so, hey, that's not bad, if you don't have too many ROMS. A few thousand, maybe. If you had more than a few thousand, you might need separate folders. Then maybe you might consider something like running LaunchBox on PC. It really is easy to install and set up. For retro games, it has all the emulators in it already. Sorts your ROMS by system automatically I think. And I think it gives you options to organize your ROMS in other ways too. Really nice if say you had more than a few thousand ROMS and need to keep them organized. Also I think more convenient to keep all the emulators up to date. Play on your PC or run an HDMI cable to the back of your TV. Hope that was helpful to anyone interested in playing ROMS from other systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGenGamer Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Previous Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. System recognized roms automatically. No setup needed. Bricking is no worry since the system automatically recognizes the roms/systems. Simplest thing I've done in years! Directory: So far recognizes only the one directory. It does not recognize sub directories. I filled the SD card up. Should have done additional testing. Going up and down goes through roms 1 at a time - Left and Right goes through pages 1 at a time. You cannot just hold it down. Clicking through was a $%^#@. I decided to use small SD cards and separate by groups. Much easier to find what you want. I hate lag too!!! When I used a plug in XBOX X controller there is no lag. There was lag with wireless controller included, but I need to do additional testing. I think it supports other systems too. Time to find them!! Have Fun! ThirdGenGamer Edited September 30, 2023 by ThirdGenGamer 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, ThirdGenGamer said: Previous Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. System recognized roms automatically. No setup needed. Bricking is no worry since the system automatically recognizes the roms/systems. Simplest thing I've done in years! Directory: So far recognizes only the one directory. It does not recognize sub directories. I filled the SD card up. Should have done additional testing. Going up and down goes through roms 1 at a time - Left and Right goes through pages 1 at a time. You cannot just hold it down. Clicking through was a $%^#@. I decided to use small SD cards and separate by groups. Much easier to find what you want. I hate lag too!!! When I used a plug in XBOX X controller there is no lag. There was lag with wireless controller included, but I need to do additional testing. I think it supports other systems too. Time to find them!! Have Fun! ThirdGenGamer Thanks for the info, most appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ThirdGenGamer said: Previous Ok here is what I got to work so far: 2600, 5200, 7800, NES, SNES, GEN, GBA, PCE, GB, N64, NDS. System recognized roms automatically. No setup needed. Bricking is no worry since the system automatically recognizes the roms/systems. Simplest thing I've done in years! Directory: So far recognizes only the one directory. It does not recognize sub directories. I filled the SD card up. Should have done additional testing. Going up and down goes through roms 1 at a time - Left and Right goes through pages 1 at a time. You cannot just hold it down. Clicking through was a $%^#@. I decided to use small SD cards and separate by groups. Much easier to find what you want. I hate lag too!!! When I used a plug in XBOX X controller there is no lag. There was lag with wireless controller included, but I need to do additional testing. I think it supports other systems too. Time to find them!! Have Fun! ThirdGenGamer That is good news. Am def interested now. Plus Costco has awesome return policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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