Gabe Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, TampaBay said: Some of the incredible guys on here also created Nexus for Atari Flashback (totally free) which turns your Atari Flashback into a full retro emulator. I play Sega Genesis, Sony Playstayion, Super Nintendo, MAME arcade games, Atari 8-bit computer, Atari 5200 and 7800, etc. on my Flashback. Scroll to the bottom of my comment in this other thread to see some cool screenshots from the setup: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/358034-collecting-for-the-2600/page/99/#comment-5454840 That's interesting. If I didn't already have a Raspberry Pi set up for retro gaming for things other than the 2600 and 7800 I might look into this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBay Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, Gabe said: That's interesting. If I didn't already have a Raspberry Pi set up for retro gaming for things other than the 2600 and 7800 I might look into this. Same. I have a mini-PC running Batocera for my retro gaming. I just installed Nexus anyway so if I'm playing on the Flashback, I can quickly / easily play some other consoles if the mood strikes, especially the Atari 8-bit computer games. They did an awesome job with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Hello all. I have been looking at changing the potentiometer for new manufacturing runs of the CX30+ paddles. A new potentiometer has been sourced and I have some samples being made to test. I'll have 5 pairs spare, so if anyone would like to test this revised CX30+ please post your interest in the thread below. I'll send you the sample free of charge, all I ask is that you give them a damn good play session repeatedly on a 2600+ and an original 2600 if you have one and report back your feedback. Purpose of this test is to see if any new CX30+s develop jitter. Thanks Ben 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 26 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Hello all. I have been looking at changing the potentiometer for new manufacturing runs of the CX30+ paddles. A new potentiometer has been sourced and I have some samples being made to test. I'll have 5 pairs spare, so if anyone would like to test this revised CX30+ please post your interest in the thread below. I'll send you the sample free of charge, all I ask is that you give them a damn good play session repeatedly on a 2600+ and an original 2600 if you have one and report back your feedback. Purpose of this test is to see if any new CX30+s develop jitter. Thanks Ben @Ben from Plaion I will gladly have a go at it! I would very much appreciate the chance to test this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishbone09 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 34 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Hello all. I have been looking at changing the potentiometer for new manufacturing runs of the CX30+ paddles. A new potentiometer has been sourced and I have some samples being made to test. I'll have 5 pairs spare, so if anyone would like to test this revised CX30+ please post your interest in the thread below. I'll send you the sample free of charge, all I ask is that you give them a damn good play session repeatedly on a 2600+ and an original 2600 if you have one and report back your feedback. Purpose of this test is to see if any new CX30+s develop jitter. Thanks Ben Happy to trial a pair Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzie.P Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 59 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: I'll have 5 pairs spare, so if anyone would like to test this revised CX30+ please post your interest in the thread below. I'll send you the sample free of charge, all I ask is that you give them a damn good play session repeatedly on a 2600+ and an original 2600 if you have one and report back your feedback. Purpose of this test is to see if any new CX30+s develop jitter. Thanks Ben I'm interested and can test on 2600, 7800, and 2600+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Fiorillo Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Ben, I can give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I’m interested in testing if still available. 2600, 7800, 2600+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstick Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 13 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Hello all. I have been looking at changing the potentiometer for new manufacturing runs of the CX30+ paddles. A new potentiometer has been sourced and I have some samples being made to test. I'll have 5 pairs spare, so if anyone would like to test this revised CX30+ please post your interest in the thread below. I'll send you the sample free of charge, all I ask is that you give them a damn good play session repeatedly on a 2600+ and an original 2600 if you have one and report back your feedback. Purpose of this test is to see if any new CX30+s develop jitter. Thanks Ben Hi Ben, I'd be happy to test and compare with OEM paddles on 2600, 2600+ and MiSTer FPGA (via 2600daptor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Thanks guys, once the new paddles arrive I'll DM you all to arrange. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddigor2 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I would be willing to give them a try I have an original 2600, 2600+, 7800 and and adapter that lets me use it on my PC 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Here is a video of the new potentiometer for the CX30+ paddles being tested for longevity Testing machine display, from top to bottom: Cumulative number of turns since machine switched on. Turn number Set number of turns Turn speed(Number of rotations/hour) 562ba2a8355b7f4af22c6da28fcc07d2.mp4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 While you are testing paddles I wonder if you could find out why these paddle software loads on the 2600+ but the paddles do nothing. On a real 7800 both programs run ok. If you get them to run I would like to know what firmware this works on. The test_paddles just shows a number of where tha paddlle 1 is. The examples_breakout.a78 is a parody breakout tied to a known politician. examples_breakout.a78 test_paddles.a78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 If you don't have a flash cart you can also run these from my Otaku card. examples_breakout.uf2 test_paddles.uf2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 The reason I am interested in this is that I am adding paddle support to my Klondike card game and it would be nice to be able to play it on the 2600+ also. Edit: Is there any Atari 7800 game that has paddle support that works with the 2600+ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, karri said: While you are testing paddles I wonder if you could find out why these paddle software loads on the 2600+ but the paddles do nothing. On a real 7800 both programs run ok. If you get them to run I would like to know what firmware this works on. The test_paddles just shows a number of where tha paddlle 1 is. The examples_breakout.a78 is a parody breakout tied to a known politician. examples_breakout.a78 16.13 kB · 0 downloads test_paddles.a78 8.13 kB · 0 downloads Paddles do not currently work with 7800 games on 2600+. However this was brought up recently as something that needs to be looked at in a future update. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcinJ Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Paddles do not currently work with 7800 games on 2600+. However this was brought up recently as something that needs to be looked at in a future update. I hope that Crazy Brix could be played with paddles in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, Ben from Plaion said: Paddles do not currently work with 7800 games on 2600+. However this was brought up recently as something that needs to be looked at in a future update. Wonderful news. @gambler172 and i are putting together a small compilation cart with lots of small games we have created. The games are mainly played with a joystick. But I want to try my luck with paddle programming also. After all, it is the easiest way to create multiplayer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 29 minutes ago, karri said: Wonderful news. @gambler172 and i are putting together a small compilation cart with lots of small games we have created. The games are mainly played with a joystick. But I want to try my luck with paddle programming also. After all, it is the easiest way to create multiplayer games. Card Games Compilation? Kind of worthy of a official release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 9 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Card Games Compilation? Kind of worthy of a official release? It would be possible to have a set of card games on the cart. But the display gets ugly for solitaires with more than 7 columns of cards. So I skipped games like Freecell and Spider. Klondike fits the screen nicely. A better theme would be solitaire games. Something combining small games like Klondike, mine sweeper, same game, tetris, sokoban... My mine sweeper clone "Find a way to my heart" for example. The idea is to clear a path between the boy and the girl. And the nice thing is that small games like this work without bank switching and extra ram. Keeps the design simple. 512k rom, a single 74ls02 gate and an 8-way thumb wheel with resistors. ---------- The eJagfest release has games, hacks and text adventures on it. The cart is either a pirate or a dragon as it contains games with pirates and dragons. Mostly.... And the supply is kind of limited. We have time and energy to make 20-40 carts only. So drop in to eJagfest for a copy 😁 https://ejagfest.de/european-jagfest-2024/?lang=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I have an anecdotal post about the new standalone CX30+ paddles. I just did an unboxing video on my pre-order of the paddles and CX78+ pad and Ninja Golf/Fatal Run reissues (to be edited/uploaded). I played both Kaboom and Super Breakout and there is a noticeable improvement with the standalone CX30+ over the ones that came with the 4-in-1 - much less jitter, especially in Super Breakout, where I was able to clear an entire board in “cavity” for the first time. The standalone paddles have less resistance so they’re easier to turn, but visibly less jitter. I don’t know if there’s a difference in manufacturing or if there will be more jitter as they’re broken in more, but thought I was worth pointing out. I wasn’t sure I wanted a second set of paddles, but this feels worth it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Sean_1970 said: I have an anecdotal post about the new standalone CX30+ paddles. I just did an unboxing video on my pre-order of the paddles and CX78+ pad and Ninja Golf/Fatal Run reissues (to be edited/uploaded). I played both Kaboom and Super Breakout and there is a noticeable improvement with the standalone CX30+ over the ones that came with the 4-in-1 - much less jitter, especially in Super Breakout, where I was able to clear an entire board in “cavity” for the first time. The standalone paddles have less resistance so they’re easier to turn, but visibly less jitter. I don’t know if there’s a difference in manufacturing or if there will be more jitter as they’re broken in more, but thought I was worth pointing out. I wasn’t sure I wanted a second set of paddles, but this feels worth it! That's good to know that there's less jitter with the stand alone paddles. As well as them having less resistance. I pre-ordered the stand alone paddles. I never had paddles before. I look forward to trying them out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 It definitely appears to me that there is not a single cause to issues people have with the paddles, but more likely a combination of factors. Despite experiencing jitter I preferred using the 4-in-1 paddles to a mouse, trackpad or analogue joystick or a digital interface like shoulder buttons or a d-pad. Hopefully the standalone paddles do good numbers and it’s nice to see the possibility of new/homebrew 7800 titles exists 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerminousCoot Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I eventually got the go-ahead from Atari Support to send back my very jittery CX30+ paddles that came with a 4 in 1 cart. I now have a pair of Hyperkin Rangers and a nice used pair of OG CX30 paddles, but I'm looking forward to finding out what the replacement CX30+ paddles I get are like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) On 6/24/2024 at 9:02 AM, Ben from Plaion said: Here is a video of the new potentiometer for the CX30+ paddles being tested for longevity Testing machine display, from top to bottom: Cumulative number of turns since machine switched on. Turn number Set number of turns Turn speed(Number of rotations/hour) 562ba2a8355b7f4af22c6da28fcc07d2.mp4 How long do you think it will be before the CX30+ paddles with these new potentiometers actually reach the market? (apologies if this has been asked before and I've missed it) Though I do currently have a pair of CX30+ on order from Amazon, they're actually an extra pair to use in place of the inferior ones that my Flashback 12 came with. I already have CX30+ for my 2600+, having gotten the four game paddle pack when I got the console. Because I don't really 'need' them, I'm thinking of holding off on the current order for the time being and waiting for these new ones to be released, then order a pair. Edited June 25 by Gabe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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