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Wondering what everyone thinks of the Paddles.  I'm pretty happy with them.  They're a bit stiff, but hopefully this will improve over time.  The build quality is amazing, they seem exactly the same physically as my original paddles (though they work much better, my old ones have a bit of jiggle/drift).  They're also the item that appears to just have sold out online, you can't get them anywhere.  Very glad I pre-ordered just for those.

 

Which games are you playing with your paddles, how are you finding them?

 

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I haven't used the original paddles in many years, so i don't know if it's just invented memories or not, but they seem slow in comparison. The TV i'm using doesn't have a low latency gaming mode, so it might improve if i use another one. At the moment they seem to have a little drag and don't seem to have the "zip" to make Kaboom a truly playable experience. 

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The main reason I got the 2600+: Medieval Mayhem/Warlords/Kaboom on the big HDMI screen. I opened up a set of new old-stock paddles to try it out. 

 

Kaboom was the first game I plugged in: the buckets were mega jittery and the latency was untenable - aka not zippy. Guessing there's a 150ms/200ms delay here.  Now, Kaboom is known for its slightly jittery control on OG hardware, but this is at a whole other level.  Couldn't make it past the 4th level. 

 

Used the same paddles on my OG heavy sixer and my modded 7800/w Retrotink.  The typical tiny amount of Kaboom jitter was there,  Got my usual level 8/3k plus score on each with no problem, though you could feel the Retrotink/HDMI latency a bit.

 

Warlords had no jitter at all, but definitely see the same latency issues as Kaboom.  The latency, on a big screen, forces me to overcorrect as the paddle isn't where I expect it to be for a fraction of a second.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, pongstroid said:

The main reason I got the 2600+: Medieval Mayhem/Warlords/Kaboom on the big HDMI screen. I opened up a set of new old-stock paddles to try it out. 

 

Kaboom was the first game I plugged in: the buckets were mega jittery and the latency was untenable - aka not zippy. Guessing there's a 150ms/200ms delay here.  Now, Kaboom is known for its slightly jittery control on OG hardware, but this is at a whole other level.  Couldn't make it past the 4th level. 

 

Used the same paddles on my OG heavy sixer and my modded 7800/w Retrotink.  The typical tiny amount of Kaboom jitter was there,  Got my usual level 8/3k plus score on each with no problem, though you could feel the Retrotink/HDMI latency a bit.

 

Warlords had no jitter at all, but definitely see the same latency issues as Kaboom.  The latency, on a big screen, forces me to overcorrect as the paddle isn't where I expect it to be for a fraction of a second.

 

 

 

Do you have a TV with a low latency input mode, a game mode ? Granted maybe it's the paddles. 

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On 11/23/2023 at 3:22 PM, MittyOz said:

Wondering what everyone thinks of the Paddles.  I'm pretty happy with them.  They're a bit stiff, but hopefully this will improve over time.  The build quality is amazing, they seem exactly the same physically as my original paddles (though they work much better, my old ones have a bit of jiggle/drift).  They're also the item that appears to just have sold out online, you can't get them anywhere.  Very glad I pre-ordered just for those.

 

Which games are you playing with your paddles, how are you finding them?

 

 

I'll let you know when I get them in mid-December... even though I ordered them in August... literally on the day the pre-order came through.

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14 hours ago, tradyblix said:

Do you have a TV with a low latency input mode, a game mode ? Granted maybe it's the paddles. 

Yeah, I do.  A couple of years ago I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to reduce latency for playing Rockband 4.  The end result: had to keep my Atmos receiver out of the equation and play sound directly from the tv, along with enabling game mode (alongside other settings).

 

My testing took advantage of all of that.  So I'm good there.

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Like everyone else, I'm sure, I'm waiting for unbundled paddles to go on sale at Atari.com.  I see their Black Friday clearances are underway.  So maybe they can clear out the paddles w/ 4 game cart bundles now and maybe we'll start seeing the paddles being sold unbundled after Christmas?  

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2 hours ago, Living Room Arcade said:

Like everyone else, I'm sure, I'm waiting for unbundled paddles to go on sale at Atari.com.  I see their Black Friday clearances are underway.  So maybe they can clear out the paddles w/ 4 game cart bundles now and maybe we'll start seeing the paddles being sold unbundled after Christmas?  

@Ben from Plaion

I have tested Warlords, Medieval Mayham and Solarstorm wirh old clean jitter free paddles on the 2600+ and these games play very well!

 

However, Kaboom and much more Super Breakout don't run as smooth as on original HW (PAL, same controller, same TV in game mode)

In Super Breakout it feels like you jump 2 Pixels. 

 

Maybe this can be adjusted in Stella via the coming hidden UI (e.g. acceleration)?

 

Not sure if the new paddles work differently with these two games.

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On 12/2/2023 at 11:14 PM, Living Room Arcade said:

Has anyone tried the new paddles on a PC running Stella using a nine pin to USB adapter?  

I would love to know as well.  
 

I have a set of best electronics paddles, and would love to compare vs these sets for Stella windows or Mac use. (Best electronics will only sell someone one set of paddles as far as I know, the only other option for paddles is used on ebay.)

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52 minutes ago, Capt Moore said:

I would love to know as well.  
 

I have a set of best electronics paddles, and would love to compare vs these sets for Stella windows or Mac use. (Best electronics will only sell someone one set of paddles as far as I know, the only other option for paddles is used on ebay.)

Actually another option for paddles is those that come with Atari Flashback units (the Gold/Deluxe sets anyway).  And they're not terrible actually.  A ringing endorsement.  And they look right.  But basically $60+ for a plug-and-play you may not want and you can have a new set of paddles.  Perhaps not the best deal.  But if you already happen to have one of these sets, they work.  I'd say their build quality and feel is 80-90& of the original.

 

I have a clean original set, so I haven't actually unboxed the new Atari paddles, but I can try them with Stella sometime I guess.

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23 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said:

@Ben from Plaion

I have tested Warlords, Medieval Mayham and Solarstorm wirh old clean jitter free paddles on the 2600+ and these games play very well!

 

However, Kaboom and much more Super Breakout don't run as smooth as on original HW (PAL, same controller, same TV in game mode)

In Super Breakout it feels like you jump 2 Pixels. 

 

Maybe this can be adjusted in Stella via the coming hidden UI (e.g. acceleration)?

 

Not sure if the new paddles work differently with these two games.

Super breakout is jittery even with my hyperkin Ranger so I don't think it has anything to do with the paddles. it's the way that game is running. and I'm not running the pal version either so we can rule that out

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I like them a lot. Never owned any before (that I recall), but I’m enjoying Breakout, Super Breakout and Circus Atari. Kaboom is decent, but the difficulty ramps up a little too quickly and Night Driver is bonkers, but fun. If actual night driving was like that, I’d never get behind the wheel 😂. Surprised Enduro didn’t use paddles…🤔

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On 12/5/2023 at 12:40 AM, Living Room Arcade said:

Like everyone else, I'm sure, I'm waiting for unbundled paddles to go on sale at Atari.com.  I see their Black Friday clearances are underway.  So maybe they can clear out the paddles w/ 4 game cart bundles now and maybe we'll start seeing the paddles being sold unbundled after Christmas?  

Update: paddles bundled w/ 4-in-1 cart are now sold out

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Maybe next we'll start seeing paddles being sold un-bundled?  

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