artrag Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I think artrag's demos show that a good Gyruss port is at least possible, even if Deep Zone is not it. -dZ. I was expecting your positive comments, thanks. What about your game? Have you produced something? I'm still waiting to see from you how a shooter should be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I was expecting your positive comments, thanks. What about your game? Have you produced something? I'm still waiting to see from you how a shooter should be done. Awwww, jeezzzz don't you start again. Valter is the one keep talking about Gyruss without making reference to your port, so I was just saying that even if he didn't think yours was what he is looking for, that it still shows it can be done. Of course, you didn't even read my next post which stated: As is illustrated in Deep Zone, you can have just a handful of enemies flying down at a time in simple attack pattern, and the warp effect and the circular player motion keeps the "feel" of Gyruss. Which sounds suspiciously positive. Context, have you heard of it? dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 For some reason I cannot display the GIF, it says "You do not have permission to view this image" no idea, I check my gallery, try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 I was expecting your positive comments, thanks. What about your game? Have you produced something? I'm still waiting to see from you how a shooter should be done. I assume DZ mentioned your game just as example of how to approach a gyruss clone on the intv hardware, so let's stop discussions and maybe you have updates about deep zone CIB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Thanks but there is nothing to assume about dz, he has already trolled elsewhere about deep zone, anyway better to stay on topic. About a cib version of the game, if the intybasic contest starts, there is a good chance that deep zone will get a cartridge version There is already a great box art on atariage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 For some reason I cannot display the GIF, it says "You do not have permission to view this image" sorry again: it was a setup to private in my gallery, now is public so it works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 You said Galaga, not Galaxians, which is a simpler game. To retain Galaga's "feel" across a platform translation is much more difficult than with Gyruss. As is illustrated in Deep Zone, you can have just a handful of enemies flying down at a time in simple attack pattern, and the warp effect and the circular player motion keeps the "feel" of Gyruss. In Galaga, the main drive is the acrobatic attack patterns of a group of enemies throughout the screen, while other enemies hover on top -- all shooting at you. In my opinion, the screen area and the enemy counts are much to small on the Intellivision to provide a direct translation. A few compromises will need to be made and choosing the correct ones so as not too lose the "feel" of the original game is not trivial. I didn't say it was impossible, I just said it was hard, and that I don't expect many people would be able to do it right. -dZ. I think Galaga on an Intellivision is doable. The hovering enemy fleet can be done with background tiles; like Space Armada but someone can definitely do better than clunky Space Armada. The missiles can also be done with background animation like Commando. That leaves seven sprites for the swooping attacking enemies. Not exactly like the arcade but similar. It's more important to get proportions and animations correct than detailed looking aliens. Look up the Sega SG-1000 and MSX versions to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) update :-) LIST 1: GAMES OUT SO FAR (and nominated for goty): 1 ) Beat Em & Eat Em (IntellivisionRevolution)2 ) Meteors (IntellivisionRevolution) 3 ) Astro Invader (Collectorvision) - June 20184 ) Gyruss (Homebrew) - shipping June 2018? LIST 2: GAMES RUMORED TO BE MARKETED IN 2018 (and potentially shifting to list 1 before end of year) 5 ) Sea Venture (IntellivisionRevolution)6 ) Intybasic Showcase Vol. 2 (IntellivisionRevolution)7 ) Terminal Bugocity (IntellivisionRevolution/Groovybee)8 ) The Secret Government Waffle Project (IntellivisionRevolution) 9 ) Air raid 10 ) Jedi Arena Edited May 30, 2018 by vprette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Who is making Jedi Arena ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I think Galaga on an Intellivision is doable. The hovering enemy fleet can be done with background tiles; like Space Armada but someone can definitely do better than clunky Space Armada. The missiles can also be done with background animation like Commando. That leaves seven sprites for the swooping attacking enemies. Not exactly like the arcade but similar. It's more important to get proportions and animations correct than detailed looking aliens. Look up the Sega SG-1000 and MSX versions to compare. Yes, it is doable with background tiles and even with multiplexing. My concern would be the vertical space between the hovering fleet and the player's base, which leaves little room for the attacking waves to manoeuvre. One or the other will have to be compromise, severely changing the scale of the game, which has a high degree of probability of it losing its "feel." That is all. It's not impossible, just hard. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Who is making Jedi Arena ? Im not allowed to spread info, this is a homebrew for a limited release, that will be announced only when ready to ship, at the moment is not ready, when I have more info I'll update :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Gyruss (Parker Bros Homebrew) - shipped June 2018? Has this even made available for purchase yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Why "Parker Bros" Gyruss, did Parker Bros announce this title in 1983? http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/parkerbros.shtml Edit: Yes thanks DZ. They had the license and produced Gyruss for Atari systems. In 1983 Parker Bros released six Intellivision cartridges and announced nine more but Gyruss wasn't one of them. I wonder why? Maybe they felt it couldn't be done, or maybe they did get the license too late for Intellivision. Edited May 30, 2018 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Why "Parker Bros" Gyruss, did Parker Bros announce this title in 1983? http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/parkerbros.shtml I think it's because they made it for other platforms, so whomever is making it thinks Parker Bros. may have done it for the Intellivision as well, had it survived long enough. -dZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Gyruss (Parker Bros Homebrew) - shipped June 2018? Has this even made available for purchase yet? not yet, they are close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Yes, it is doable with background tiles and even with multiplexing. My concern would be the vertical space between the hovering fleet and the player's base, which leaves little room for the attacking waves to manoeuvre. One or the other will have to be compromise, severely changing the scale of the game, which has a high degree of probability of it losing its "feel." That is all. It's not impossible, just hard. -dZ. my comment above whas about galaxians to be easier in development compared to galaga? or you think the constrains are just the same? Edited May 30, 2018 by vprette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 my comment above whas about galaxians to be easier in development compared to galaga? or you think the constrains are just the same? Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Galaxians should be simpler to do than Galaga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Galaxians should be simpler to do than Galaga. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I love Galaga, but will take Galaxians. However what I reeeeaaaally want is a good version of Joust. That's one of my favourite arcades. Something to get the Donkey Kong/Ms. Pac-Man treatment to make it as close to the original as possible. That would be great. dZ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Yes Joust would be great. Rocketeer reminds me a little bit of it in terms of gameplay and screen layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) year of the shooters .... LIST 1: GAMES CONFIRMED (and nominated for goty): 1 ) Beat Em & Eat Em (IntellivisionRevolution)2 ) Meteors (IntellivisionRevolution) 3 ) Astro Invader (Collectorvision) - June 20184 ) Gyruss (Homebrew) - June 20185 ) Deep Zone - Q4 2018 LIST 2: GAMES RUMORED (and potentially shifting to list 1 before end of year) 6 ) Sea Venture (IntellivisionRevolution)7 ) Intybasic Showcase Vol. 2 (IntellivisionRevolution)8 ) Terminal Bugocity (IntellivisionRevolution/Groovybee)9 ) The Secret Government Waffle Project (IntellivisionRevolution) 10 ) Air raid 11 ) Jedi Arena Edited May 30, 2018 by vprette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 LIST 1: GAMES OUT SO FAR (and nominated for goty): [... cut... ] 5 ) Deep Zone - Q4 2018 I think we have different definitions of "games out so far"... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Who is making Jedi Arena ? https://youtu.be/sLlu_RpElBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) I think we have different definitions of "games out so far"... . Or as Heidi Klum would put it: In Intellivision, one day your game is in. The next day it is out. Btw, Heidi is a lot into Halloween costumes. Perhaps someone should tip her to go as the Running Man this year? Edited May 30, 2018 by carlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 I think we have different definitions of "games out so far"... . right... I modify the text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like us on Facebook
Follow us on Twitter
AtariAge on Instagram
Watch us on YouTube
Chat on Discord
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.