Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’

[CPUWIZ]

Don't feed.

[roots.genoa]

8 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

That sounds a bit harsh. I think you may be suprised how resilient he is. Maybe he is recording an album right now that will win over the hearts of every potential Amico fan and suck up all the negativity.

 

8 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

Okay, but do we know he is playing backgammon for sure, or is this speculation?

Yes, we know. He has been seen on pictures, he's mentioned in tournament brackets, etc.

 

8 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

Yes, Tommy is not the ideaguy for the position and it is unfortunate thst his successor isn't that much better. Who do you think would be good for the position?

I'm not sure you would do a good job, but it would probably be hilarious to witness. 🙂

 

8 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

The switch has alot of nastyness on its platform.

You don't have to buy every game available, you know? 🙄

 

8 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

I like the idea amnd hope someone

Nice try to please Beefy! 😉

Edited March 11, 2023 by roots.genoa

[Creamhoven]

4 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

Yes, we know. He has been seen on pictures, he's mentioned in tournament brackets, etc.

Okay maybe there will be a great backgammon game on the amico then.

4 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

I'm not sure you would do a good job, but it would probably be hilarious to witness. 🙂

Well thank you very much. I would promise no nastyness and for everything else just wait and see. I dont need xbox and ps4. Powerful consoles, yes, but what is it good for if the experiences suck the joy out of my life.

4 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

You don't have to buy every game available, you know? 🙄

True, but they dont have to sell nastyness neither. I like the idea that I know everything is clean on a console.

4 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

😉

 

[CPUWIZ]

What console?

[+frankodragon]

[+5-11under]

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

[MrBeefy]

5 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

Don't feed.

Is this like don't feed after midnight rule?

 

What about water? I figured they could use a wash in a footbath.

 

5 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

Nice try to please Beefy! 😉

My misspellings are a joke! I keep them in there to catch you in my web. It's so funny that you fall for it everything.

 

While you are being an untalented jealous gatkeeping, watch a great backgammoner lose!

 

[Razzie.P]

5 hours ago, Creamhoven said:

Well Tommy put in the effort to get enough funds for the Amico that he claimed his share for the profits that were made by his famous 'Oof' sounfd.

 

Hmm... taking money and claiming credit for a something created by someone else isn't exactly a good example of  "his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."   

 

 

5 hours ago, Creamhoven said:

The picture you are painting is however negative even with taking all the facts into account, which is fine, my perspective isnt neutral as well, mine is optimistic and positive. 

But it really seems that you've stepped out of "optimistic and positive" and into "delusional and trying to spread it."   If you're truly just that optimistic, log off, go sit at the end of the driveway, wait, and come back when they've personally hand delivered your brand new, 100% finished Amico, free of charge as a "thank you" for your support, dedication, and for always believing in them.   I know that sounds far fetched, but I promise it's just as plausible as some of the ideas you're putting out there.

 

 

[Rowsdower70]

[Lord Mushroom]

 

[Cebus Capucinis]

1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

While you are being an untalented jealous gatkeeping, watch a great backgammoner lose!

I love how in the first minute you can see he's so good at this, so good he doesn't even know how to properly set up the board and moves every single piece at least twice.

 

If that's not an analogy for Amico I don't know what is.

[Creamhoven]

40 minutes ago, Razzie.P said:

Hmm... taking money and claiming credit for a something created by someone else isn't exactly a good example of  "his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."   

Why not, he had the rights to the sound, it is his property.

40 minutes ago, Razzie.P said:

But it really seems that you've stepped out of "optimistic and positive" and into "delusional and trying to spread it."   If you're truly just that optimistic, log off, go sit at the end of the driveway, wait, and come back when they've personally hand delivered your brand new, 100% finished Amico, free of charge as a "thank you" for your support, dedication, and for always believing in them.   I know that sounds far fetched, but I promise it's just as plausible as some of the ideas you're putting out there.

Okay, I am not even pushing back against this. My point is that we are so used to brushed up press people from huge cooperations, that deliver a product that is made for a mass market, big budgets little innovation and lets be frank alot of uglyness and nastyness. The guys at intellivision maybe they would not succeed under any circumstances. But these are guys from another time, that are running a comparably tiny buisness and go out there and speak, and suprisingly we get to see flawed characters that mess up in multiple ways. It is all documented, there are people that thrive in an enviroment of negativity on social media and it spirals downwards. How many messups did happen in certain companies that ultimativly succeeded. I think you can survive terrible messups, but being surrounded by prolonged negativity is perhaps much more difficult to survive. Perhaps atari would never have been thr company it was if it started in this climate. Maybe they would have failed early on if they followed their passion under these circumstances. How many messups did humanity go through before it came to the moon landing. If we want to have beauty and do great things we need to spite failure and push through and play against all odds. That is simply the price of greatness. It is easy to become compliant with the dominance of mediocraty, but we need to strive for greatness or we will be played out by other players in this world of rising conflict. There is a need for this faustian spirit right now and it is up to us to demand beauty at any cost. Rising censorship, huge nasty cooperations with big budgets and it works, yes, but only on a techincal level. A civilisation needs a spirit that creates and not one that lives off destruction/mediocraty. Intellivision has messed up and perhaps it is not going to succeed, still we should make sure that we cultivate a positive enviroment were new players on the scene can thrive. Look at the reaction that the amico gets and try to see it through the eyes of someone who wants to give it a try him/herself. Maybe sega was considering a dreamcast 2 and looked at the negativity that the amico got and thought to themselves not to bother with all this. When covering the amico, we need to be honest with the facts, but we also should be critical with ourselves whether we are cultivating an enviroment that creates or destructs. Stay true to the facts, but always assume in benefit of the other party. If the facts are negative, show them but keep the larger picture in mind, including the need for positivity in this world.

[jerseystyle]

32 minutes ago, Creamhoven said:

Why not, he had the rights to the sound, it is his property.

Okay, I am not even pushing back against this. My point is that we are so used to brushed up press people from huge cooperations, that deliver a product that is made for a mass market, big budgets little innovation and lets be frank alot of uglyness and nastyness. The guys at intellivision maybe they would not succeed under any circumstances. But these are guys from another time, that are running a comparably tiny buisness and go out there and speak, and suprisingly we get to see flawed characters that mess up in multiple ways. It is all documented, there are people that thrive in an enviroment of negativity on social media and it spirals downwards. How many messups did happen in certain companies that ultimativly succeeded. I think you can survive terrible messups, but being surrounded by prolonged negativity is perhaps much more difficult to survive. Perhaps atari would never have been thr company it was if it started in this climate. Maybe they would have failed early on if they followed their passion under these circumstances. How many messups did humanity go through before it came to the moon landing. If we want to have beauty and do great things we need to spite failure and push through and play against all odds. That is simply the price of greatness. It is easy to become compliant with the dominance of mediocraty, but we need to strive for greatness or we will be played out by other players in this world of rising conflict. There is a need for this faustian spirit right now and it is up to us to demand beauty at any cost. Rising censorship, huge nasty cooperations with big budgets and it works, yes, but only on a techincal level. A civilisation needs a spirit that creates and not one that lives off destruction/mediocraty. Intellivision has messed up and perhaps it is not going to succeed, still we should make sure that we cultivate a positive enviroment were new players on the scene can thrive. Look at the reaction that the amico gets and try to see it through the eyes of someone who wants to give it a try him/herself. Maybe sega was considering a dreamcast 2 and looked at the negativity that the amico got and thought to themselves not to bother with all this. When covering the amico, we need to be honest with the facts, but we also should be critical with ourselves whether we are cultivating an enviroment that creates or destructs. Stay true to the facts, but always assume in benefit of the other party. If the facts are negative, show them but keep the larger picture in mind, including the need for positivity in this world.

It’s here! Mr_Me was right… finally THE MARKETING has started! This is the Amico’s final form. It’s isn’t a console it’s a goddamn moral imperative. If you don’t support the Amico, you do not support beauty. The Amico is the platonic form of gaming.

Edited March 11, 2023 by jerseystyle

[Razzie.P]

1 hour ago, Creamhoven said:

Why not, he had the rights to the sound, it is his property.

 

Maybe, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about, though.   We weren’t referencing what is/isn’t his property and what he did/didn't have the right to do – we were talking about "his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."  The whole “oof” sound scenario is just an example of the exact same behavior that helped get us to this point in the great Amico Scam Saga (A.S.S.™) and has been well documented as such.  No matter how much of a positive spin you want to put on it, it’s not going to realistically reflect any sort of “his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."  

 

1 hour ago, Creamhoven said:

... positivity, blah, blah, blah

I agree the world can use a bit more positivity.  But there’s a time and place for it, and this may not be the right time and/or place.  These guys lied and deceived a lot of people out of a lot of money.  Honest mistakes can be more likely forgiven and understood.  But a lot of these weren’t honest mistakes.  They were lies, through n’ through with intent to deceive potential customers and investors (which, has also been well documented).  So continued insistence on “positivity first” for something like this only helps pave the way for similar scams to repeat.

 

 

You can find groups who will feel the same and continue chatting non-stop about the positivity of the Amico while you guys wait for – something – but I don’t think this forum/thread is gonna be it.  You’re likely just gonna annoy people, they’ll think you’re a troll (already happening, I see) and generally get a bad start in an awesome community.  And try to keep in mind, please, we’re not negative just to be crappy about it.  We’ve been here since day 1 when the Then CEO popped in with his “long time lurker, first time poster” sales pitch thread and we’ve all seen how “let’s just be positive about this” has strongly contributed to a lot of people being scammed out of a lot of money.
 

[MrBeefy]

1 hour ago, Cebus Capucinis said:

I love how in the first minute you can see he's so good at this, so good he doesn't even know how to properly set up the board and moves every single piece at least twice.

 

If that's not an analogy for Amico I don't know what is.

Ha I didn't even catch that! Lmao.

 

I bet my imaginary wife could beat him. She was playing it non-stop on the Switch for the longest time.

 

1 hour ago, jerseystyle said:

It’s here! Mr_Me was right… finally THE MARKETING has started! This is the Amico’s final form. It’s isn’t a console it’s a goddamn moral imperative. If you don’t support the Amico, you do not support beauty. The Amico is the platonic form of gaming.

It was pretty obvious that most of the hardcore fans were simply out of touch. The only way Amico had a chance to carve a niche market is at the below $200 price point.

 

They have literally shown nothing to me as a parent that they have done better at than what is already available. They haven't even shown they can do as well as what is already out there.

 

When I call the Switch the porn machine my wife laughs. Neither of us have seen any such smut on it, but we don't go looking for it either. I don't even have parental controls set and Jr. Beefy wouldn't be able to get any of those games because he doesn't have the password.

 

The people claiming no objectionable games are literally posting from a device that in a few searches could have porn on it in seconds. I hope those people do not have a TV, cell phone, or PC in their house. If they gave a phone to their kid it is worse than a console that would require more work to find something objectionable than a console 

 

If said people say, we'll we can lock those devices down, then their arguments against the Switch and other consoles is mute, because you can lock those down. Really the target demographic turns out is those who love the name Intellivision or really dumb consumers. By dumb I don't mean wanting family friendly fun. By dumb I mean by not doing any research amd thinking there are no family friendly games on current consoles.

 

This is a favorite in my household. I still haven't seen anything resembling it for Amico.

I have seen games on Amico promoting mass murder, causing others to get into horrible crashes, and encouraging war. It also has a naked man streaking as it's mascot. Disgusting...

[MrBeefy]

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

 

I agree the world can use a bit more positivity.  But there’s a time and place for it, and this may not be the right time and/or place.  

If people want more positivity in the world they should think of actually working to help other people out. Positivity towards an inanimate object is only going to cause the money grubbers to take more money from people and be irresponsible with it.

 

Amico isn't anyone's actual friend. The toxic positive people need to touch grass and get out and try helping people, that exist. 

 

I got an idea on what they could do that would be a better investment, spread positivity, and could be purchased right now. Go buy some tacos for someone. They are delicious, actually exist, and could make someone's day!

[Creamhoven]

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

Maybe, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about, though.   We weren’t referencing what is/isn’t his property and what he did/didn't have the right to do – we were talking about "his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."  The whole “oof” sound scenario is just an example of the exact same behavior that helped get us to this point in the great Amico Scam Saga (A.S.S.™) and has been well documented as such.  No matter how much of a positive spin you want to put on it, it’s not going to realistically reflect any sort of “his willingness and ability to change his ways and do the right thing."  

I dont know the details of the story. Claiming your share of profits made with the intellectual property you own the rights to is completely reasonable. Maybe there is more to the story I am not aware of.

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

I agree the world can use a bit more positivity.  But there’s a time and place for it, and this may not be the right time and/or place.  These guys lied and deceived a lot of people out of a lot of money.  Honest mistakes can be more likely forgiven and understood.  But a lot of these weren’t honest mistakes.  They were lies, through n’ through with intent to deceive potential customers and investors (which, has also been well documented).  So continued insistence on “positivity first” for something like this only helps pave the way for similar scams to repeat.

Yes I agree, if it is proven that deception is at hand than it should be adressed in an adequate manner. Can we agree that in such cases it is important to br mindful by not poisoning the well for others, that want to give the console making game a try themselves. So even if there are flaws and serious misteps there is an inviting amount of good will from the gaming community. This should be also reflected in the criticism of the Amico. It is a though balance to strike, not encouraging bad actors, while still signalling to good faith actors, that they will get a decent chance to try their best. In tha case of Intellivision I dont like the idea, that they can do nothing to redeem themselves. Even it is just a symbolic gesture, that most likely will not be realized it is good to know that there is good will in the community that wants to give it a try.

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

 

You can find groups who will feel the same and continue chatting non-stop about the positivity of the Amico while you guys wait for – something – but I don’t think this forum/thread is gonna be it.  

I don't like the idea of dismissing communities as echochambers, and I do think that my essay on Tallaricos 'Gaming Racism' theory does reach others in one way or another. You must have at least have a little bit of appreachiation for my perspective, dignifying it by your well put together response.

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

You’re likely just gonna annoy people, they’ll think you’re a troll (already happening, I see) and generally get a bad start in an awesome community.

I personally like the quality of points being made rather than speculation about ones position. It's fine that some have this impression of me, and if so I hope they are at least amused.  I hope that the idea of good points and interesting discussion can overcome reservations one may have. What I dont like is conspitorial type of thinking, but thats another subject

 

1 hour ago, Razzie.P said:

And try to keep in mind, please, we’re not negative just to be crappy about it.  We’ve been here since day 1 when the Then CEO popped in with his “long time lurker, first time poster” sales pitch thread and we’ve all seen how “let’s just be positive about this” has strongly contributed to a lot of people being scammed out of a lot of money.
 

I understand that most here have more indepth knowledge about thr situation. Maybe I am making it to easy on my part to dismiss the critics as being pessimists. I think that sony and microsoft (as well as the mainstream entertainment industry) need a rival that shows them that you can grab a good amount of market share by making a nicer looking console, that focuses on local multiplayer just to name two examples.

 

PC, xbox, ps, they all blend together in many ways. I think the PS5 and Xbox series X are basically the same hardware. This is very blant, and compared to the dreamcast for example the consoles look extremely ugly and uninspiring, while booting up the dreamcast and listening to the introscreen alone is still exciting to me.

 

While current day mainstream gaming is not my thing, I am happy for everyone who can enjoy it. For those who dont however, a new darkhorse player on the scene would be great.

 

I dont know the details, but it pains me to see that intellivision was not successful. On paper, a console that is clean, local mulitplayer, has a somewhat new controller design, looks decent etc. it is very interesting to me, and the realisation of this vision is at least in theory plausible. The people of Intellivision are of a generation that seems to be most promising when it comes to the idea of making a console for the whole family.

 

I hope another company will jump in. To me the nintendo switch is more than powerful enough to have nice looking games of many genres. Developers have plenty power to work with and can make awesome games if they have the creativity to make it happen. A smaller company can make something great even with underpowered hardware. Maybe SEGA, NEC or capcom could do it. Who knows.

 

Facts of the amico should be discussed and criticism should be voiced. We should make sure that bad actors are discouraged while trying to maintain an enviroment that is open for new people with new ideas in the console game.

[MrBeefy]

Picnics are a great way to touch grass and spread positivity.

Do watch out for any hobos living under non-existent piers selling footbaths and playing backgammon.

 

Edit* If you want to spread more positivity bring your Switch to the picnic and play some local multiplayer while enjoying the sun.

Edited March 11, 2023 by MrBeefy

[number6]

2 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

Amico isn't anyone's actual friend.

And yet that is in fact why the name "friend" was chosen from the list of prospective names, to help customers identify with their new friend.

(and you surely recall how the choosing of that name turned out)

 

While we're at it, does anyone know why they suddenly replaced their trademark attorney?

 

#6

Edited March 11, 2023 by number6
Added question

[MrBeefy]

25 minutes ago, number6 said:

And yet that is in fact why the name "friend" was chosen from the list of prospective names, to help customers identify with their new friend.

(and you surely recall how the choosing of that name turned out)

 

#6

His close friend, Shiggy, stopped answering his phone calls. So he needed to build a new friend of course.

 

[roots.genoa]

7 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

While you are being an untalented jealous gatkeeping, watch a great backgammoner lose!

I didn't watch the whole video but Tommy doesn't seem to speak at all. That's incredible!! 🤯

[MrBeefy]

1 minute ago, roots.genoa said:

I didn't watch the whole video but Tommy doesn't seem to speak at all. That's incredible!! 🤯

It would be weirder if he did speak about random things.

[roots.genoa]

1 minute ago, MrBeefy said:

It would be weirder if he did speak about random things.

Yes, but at the beginning a guy talks about what he does for a living, and I'm very surprised Tommy didn't name drop people or mentioned his prowess his mother is very proud of.

[+Biff Burgertime]

These posts consisting of 20 broken-up quotes suck

[+5-11under]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Biff Burgertime said:

These posts consisting of 20 broken-up quotes suck

They're nasty.